This is the proper way to do this. Complete disassembly, thorough cleaning of the components, correct masking of contact surfaces, then high heat paint applied and cured. Agree with those who say to chase the threads to prevent galling upon reassembly, and possibly honing the piston bore if needed. Overall, very well done.
Nice job 😎 I recognise those calipers - same as on my Volvo, though I wouldn't brave disassembling them at my desk like that 😵 Very surprised how well boiling in citric acid worked - I might give that a go 👍
2:20 lemon acid you mean citric acid?? It works with more metals or its specified for some metal?? i would like a bit explanation since i have many parts that i always sand by hand because i dont have sandblasting machine.. it will be really usefull to have more time while the chemicals working.. thanks you!!
Nicely done job! It was good to see the use of citric acid, because that's a great way to remove rust and I've never tried that, with a caliper, so far.
A strong vinegar solution overnight is the best I've ever used. It must be done outdoors, however, because of the odor of vinegar, which is likely unhealthy to breath very long.
Good Video :) I always apply high temp ceramic grease on inside threads to stop steel bleeding nipples sizing up. And use ATE assembly lube on seals and pistons itself. Also if u want them to last lot longer than zinc plating is best rust prevention and than powder coating or Epoxy primer and spray it.
Some of the comments here are just crazy. The small mindedness is incredible. Our world is full of this. What chance have we got….This is great what he is doing. Well done.
Yes, good vid. If you don’t have a sandblaster, here’s my poor man’s substitute: one of those massage ‘guns’. I got a small diameter (1 inch ish) wire brush head, meant for use in a drill, and i had to increase the diameter of the shaft of it from the standard 1/4” to around 10mm or so. Now you could just wrap say, a cut-off segment of a hose pipe, and keep going until you get it about right, then apply duck tape or insulation tape with some tension, to hold it in place. I have a bag of short lengths of clear plastic tubing various sizes, that neatly are a press-fit into their next size up or down, you know what I mean. It took three of those, about 1” lengths, shoved over one another. It was easier to give it a try, then remove all of them, and assemble the chinese-doll arrangement of three stumpy bits of tubing OFF of the rotary wire brush, THEN bang them on with a hammer gently, and yea, wear gloves here. Then, it fitted the mounting hole in the ‘gun’ pretty well, all these things are just push-fit anyway on my unit. How well does it work? Pretty well. I got the one that is most compact, I didn’t go for max power or size or anything, I just got the one that had a decent Temu star rating. It’s got gold edging on it, if you are looking. It was less than £10UK . I used it on my Prius rear brake caliper, and it took the rust off better than the alternative, hammering with a small weld-flux removing hammer, or hand wire-brushing or rotary wire brushing. There’s still a use for rotary wire brushing, my main issue is, I don’t want to damage my drilling device, Bosch or Milwaukee, neither surely has bearings designed for that much axial loading? Anyway…while this does not take the rust down to the metal, it’s as good as any of the other non-laser or non-sandblasting methods, and easier. And the lack of out-of-control rotary whooshing wire bristles is nice too. My particular massage gun, has 6 power settings. But, in addition, it has a sort of ‘pressure-activated-boost’ action, and this is proportional to the power setting you are on. IE push down harder on setting one, and there’s a certain faster buzzing with a certain amount of force, but if you up that to say setting 3, then press harder into the workpiece, the resulting boost seems more than on the lower setting. I’m sure it’s an improvement, if only for when you don’t have a vice or whatever, to hold the workpiece/calliper, it’s safer than a wild rotary action on an angle grinder or drill maybe, and some weird dints and crevices are positively elusive without a direct-line hammer action. So, that’s my tip. Drawbacks are, as expected, the bristles do ‘bend over’ at the tip after a bit, but I suspect if I either wrap duck tape or maybe use a couple of tie-wraps or circlips/jubilee clips, to keep the bristle ‘bunched’ properly then it mightn’t let the bristles bend at the tip. I only just got a vice, after 50 years of working on cars I thought I better start making it easier. Getting the tools I always avoided buying. Sandblasting is obviously really good. Laser, is really, really good, but will get cheaper I am sure. My only issue is laser rust removal is awfully easy - you have to get set up to sand blast, your child or curious teenager isn’t going to readily mess with a sandblaster booth. Lasers are somewhat dangerous when they are that powerful, and it’s a bit like welding which now is also very cheap…I was put off not by the PPE I needed to buy, but by the need for a neat workshop. I’ve got naptha and all sorts in there! So until I have a decently-sorted garage, welding is another thing to steer clear of for me. Good vid, take care all.
Excellent work. Never thought of Lemon Acid and it's ability to remove rust from calipers. You used Zinc Primer, then a black paint on the mounting surface. Is that just black heat-resistant black paint as well? Thanks again for this how to.
I was rebuilding my read clipers and I struggled to put a new rubber boot back in place. The rubber boot end has a metal ring which I could not mound on the groove even with a force and you seem to mound it fairly easily 7:13 Does it need a lot of force?
If you watch closely, you'll realize there's 2 of them for both sides of the car, they are symmetrical, so there isn't any mistery you were just looking at the same calipers from differents sides of the car. I think that would be pretty clear tbh, because you can see both in the video.
@IDontTalkToCops if its an old car fine. If its a newer one and parts are easily available. Theres enough work there already. Get a core charge if you can. Olenty of fun doing that job. And not this unessacary bit.
@lucaslagun8283 i can buy an oem part for most vehicles upto 20 years back. I could see this on something vintage. Though often they do complete highend brake setups on most I've seen. I'll stand by its cheaper to buy than the time it took the person being recorded to do all that work.
pressure release on the break piston can be achieved with pressured air. Be carefull though, use low pressure and as in this video, a cloth to brace the exit of the piston.
I know most BMWs have this style and the service manual specifically states to clean the guide pins but so not lubricate. Due to the pins potentially being open to the elements, any lubricant could attract foreign contaminants. Sealed systems such as Kia and others are within the metal caliper bracket and need to be lubricated.
Some folks don't like powder coating because it comes out a bit goopy-looking. The spray finish tends to retain details better. I've seen this on my motorcycle project.
Ridiculous statement, this will be strong, I have painted calipers many times and never even baked them. The immediate heat from the very first uses cake the paint, like powder coated. No once have any caliper that I have Painted, ever lost their paint other than after many years through normal wear and tear.
the bore in use is protected by the brake fluid, which as long as you replace at the correct intervals wouldn't suffer any corrosion issues, and the sealing surface is the piston anyway so don't need to stress to much on the bore
The acid does trash threads. Try it by putting a bolt and a nut in vinegar and see how loose the connection gets. I have done this. If you were able to seal the threads well with some plastic fittings and maybe Teflon tape to seal them. It would work. The piston housing itself doesn’t really see the piston. They don’t come into contact with the walls of the housing. Still. I would seal the piston hole off while using the …..vinegar or citric acid. I would not want that bore to be ate down by the acid. The acid when washed off. Creates immediate flash rust. Yours were very clean. I don’t know how you achieved this. I have achieved this by washing the metal off and immediately putting them in oil. Giving it no time to rust. Then I have to clean it again with solvent. The zinc primer is not bad. It has anti rust capability. Is this worth the time? Not really. You can buy the parts for not too bad. However. You can buy a rebuild kit for $5 and never do any of this at all. Just keep them rusted. The factory doesn’t coat them on many cars. They just rust. Newer cars coat them. I have done all of this several times and am about to again. I might go through the trouble of de rusting. Only because I’m doing several calipers at once. The paint is just high temp caliper pain and it does have to be baked on. Powdercoating is better😊
Having worked at a gm dealership until early 2000s....I can say that the factory never painted calipers from the factory... Unless it was a special package.... Which was NOT the majority
Caliper paint is heat resistant to 900*F. It is also very chemical resistant. Would have been nice to know what black primer you used and the final coat. They do look tremendous and that lemon acid trick is da shizat.
zinc primer probably silicon-organic base (temp resistant). And final paint based on silicone polymers. I would use paint for the calipers to be sure of paint compatibility. Thank you!
Might i suggest using the correct size spanner rather than us a poorly fitting adjustable wrench, they are very prone to rounding over the edges of nuts. ☹
This was good to a point… then adding lubrication that comes in contact with your brake fluid, makes the video bad. Only lubricate with brake fluid. But then I saw the Russian writing on the brake lube, and it all made sense 😂
This is the proper way to do this. Complete disassembly, thorough cleaning of the components, correct masking of contact surfaces, then high heat paint applied and cured. Agree with those who say to chase the threads to prevent galling upon reassembly, and possibly honing the piston bore if needed. Overall, very well done.
Earplugs are great for plugging bolt holes for paint.
Wow...that is a professional job. What great work.
Nice job 😎 I recognise those calipers - same as on my Volvo, though I wouldn't brave disassembling them at my desk like that 😵 Very surprised how well boiling in citric acid worked - I might give that a go 👍
The best video I've seen on brake cylinders. Very good and thorough work! Many thanks!
2:20 lemon acid you mean citric acid?? It works with more metals or its specified for some metal?? i would like a bit explanation since i have many parts that i always sand by hand because i dont have sandblasting machine.. it will be really usefull to have more time while the chemicals working.. thanks you!!
I think you can try use vinegar, just soak it for one or two night or more for bigger parts.
This would be better without the background music like your previous brake video.
I usually despise music in these videos, but the music in the first 4.5 minutes is actually pretty cool and catchy, very fitting.
@@queensapphire7717, I’m feeling it also.
Bei meinem Gerät kann der Ton ausgeschaltet werden.
Turn the sound off.
You have a volume button?
Nicely done job! It was good to see the use of citric acid, because that's a great way to remove rust and I've never tried that, with a caliper, so far.
A strong vinegar solution overnight is the best I've ever used. It must be done outdoors, however, because of the odor of vinegar, which is likely unhealthy to breath very long.
@@markjones7417 chip shop simulator 🤣
Cotton balls for holes
Did he use citric acid and the rest water?
@@juddskiibiz yes to make up the citric acid solution.
Good Video :) I always apply high temp ceramic grease on inside threads to stop steel bleeding nipples sizing up. And use ATE assembly lube on seals and pistons itself.
Also if u want them to last lot longer than zinc plating is best rust prevention and than powder coating or Epoxy primer and spray it.
I'm a marathon runner and often have to put grease on my bleeding nipples.
Nice result. It'd be great if you explain the steps you go through and the materials used for restoring/rebuilding the calipers.
Some of the comments here are just crazy. The small mindedness is incredible. Our world is full of this. What chance have we got….This is great what he is doing. Well done.
Mine were severely pitted but still looked a whole lot better after cleaning and painting.Liked.
Isn't it necessary to lube the slides/guide pins and piston before use?
Молодец. Долгая и кропотливая работа.
Только зря он лимонную кислоту не нейтрализовал щелочным раствором.
Yes, good vid. If you don’t have a sandblaster, here’s my poor man’s substitute: one of those massage ‘guns’. I got a small diameter (1 inch ish) wire brush head, meant for use in a drill, and i had to increase the diameter of the shaft of it from the standard 1/4” to around 10mm or so. Now you could just wrap say, a cut-off segment of a hose pipe, and keep going until you get it about right, then apply duck tape or insulation tape with some tension, to hold it in place. I have a bag of short lengths of clear plastic tubing various sizes, that neatly are a press-fit into their next size up or down, you know what I mean. It took three of those, about 1” lengths, shoved over one another. It was easier to give it a try, then remove all of them, and assemble the chinese-doll arrangement of three stumpy bits of tubing OFF of the rotary wire brush, THEN bang them on with a hammer gently, and yea, wear gloves here. Then, it fitted the mounting hole in the ‘gun’ pretty well, all these things are just push-fit anyway on my unit.
How well does it work? Pretty well. I got the one that is most compact, I didn’t go for max power or size or anything, I just got the one that had a decent Temu star rating. It’s got gold edging on it, if you are looking. It was less than £10UK . I used it on my Prius rear brake caliper, and it took the rust off better than the alternative, hammering with a small weld-flux removing hammer, or hand wire-brushing or rotary wire brushing. There’s still a use for rotary wire brushing, my main issue is, I don’t want to damage my drilling device, Bosch or Milwaukee, neither surely has bearings designed for that much axial loading? Anyway…while this does not take the rust down to the metal, it’s as good as any of the other non-laser or non-sandblasting methods, and easier. And the lack of out-of-control rotary whooshing wire bristles is nice too.
My particular massage gun, has 6 power settings. But, in addition, it has a sort of ‘pressure-activated-boost’ action, and this is proportional to the power setting you are on. IE push down harder on setting one, and there’s a certain faster buzzing with a certain amount of force, but if you up that to say setting 3, then press harder into the workpiece, the resulting boost seems more than on the lower setting. I’m sure it’s an improvement, if only for when you don’t have a vice or whatever, to hold the workpiece/calliper, it’s safer than a wild rotary action on an angle grinder or drill maybe, and some weird dints and crevices are positively elusive without a direct-line hammer action.
So, that’s my tip. Drawbacks are, as expected, the bristles do ‘bend over’ at the tip after a bit, but I suspect if I either wrap duck tape or maybe use a couple of tie-wraps or circlips/jubilee clips, to keep the bristle ‘bunched’ properly then it mightn’t let the bristles bend at the tip. I only just got a vice, after 50 years of working on cars I thought I better start making it easier. Getting the tools I always avoided buying. Sandblasting is obviously really good. Laser, is really, really good, but will get cheaper I am sure. My only issue is laser rust removal is awfully easy - you have to get set up to sand blast, your child or curious teenager isn’t going to readily mess with a sandblaster booth. Lasers are somewhat dangerous when they are that powerful, and it’s a bit like welding which now is also very cheap…I was put off not by the PPE I needed to buy, but by the need for a neat workshop. I’ve got naptha and all sorts in there! So until I have a decently-sorted garage, welding is another thing to steer clear of for me. Good vid, take care all.
Awesome job and great results
All threaded holes need to have bolts screwed into them before sandblasting and painting. Then, a thread tap must be run in to clear out the threads.😊
Just stick foam ear plugs in if there nice and snug, should be good.
Nice! I learned a few tricks. Thank you very much
Cool! Thank you too!!)
Well I think you did a great job 👍 music and all.
Peace my brother ✌️
Music made me turn off.
No one cares
It's called mute ✨
Appreciate the dedication and time. ❤❤
Great job ! 👍
Thank you!!!
@@6wood You're welcome !
Excellent work. Never thought of Lemon Acid and it's ability to remove rust from calipers. You used Zinc Primer, then a black paint on the mounting surface. Is that just black heat-resistant black paint as well?
Thanks again for this how to.
Красота, да и только 👍!
thank you for quality content
I was rebuilding my read clipers and I struggled to put a new rubber boot back in place.
The rubber boot end has a metal ring which I could not mound on the groove even with a force and you seem to mound it fairly easily 7:13 Does it need a lot of force?
Great result! How long did it take for the lemon acid to remove the rust entirely? You also heated it, what was the temperature?
How did the BRAKE BLEED NIPPLE MOVE TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE?
If you watch closely, you'll realize there's 2 of them for both sides of the car, they are symmetrical, so there isn't any mistery you were just looking at the same calipers from differents sides of the car. I think that would be pretty clear tbh, because you can see both in the video.
Отличное видео! Тоже буду реставрировать) Сколько по времени ты в лимонке отстаивал? Кипятил?
Congratulations for this magnificent work good day
Do you use lemon acid to clear rust ? Water and lemon acid is safe for this ?
How long did you cook with citric acid?
How did you dry it then?
Very nice work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
After the hours of work, and having the expensive machines to do the work. Its far cheaper and easier to just buy the replacements and slap them on.
Yes but what’s the fun in that!? 🤷♂️
@IDontTalkToCops if its an old car fine. If its a newer one and parts are easily available. Theres enough work there already. Get a core charge if you can. Olenty of fun doing that job. And not this unessacary bit.
not is not :) so call new aftermarket parts are often low quality ones and are cheap for reason.
@lucaslagun8283 i can buy an oem part for most vehicles upto 20 years back. I could see this on something vintage. Though often they do complete highend brake setups on most I've seen. I'll stand by its cheaper to buy than the time it took the person being recorded to do all that work.
Ya , but they are not nicely painted ?
To remove the piston it's more easy/fast to use air compressor gun with any rubber for quick seal.
pressure release on the break piston can be achieved with pressured air. Be carefull though, use low pressure and as in this video, a cloth to brace the exit of the piston.
You can pump the piston out before removing the caliper from the car
@@olejakobsen2363 indeed, this is also true. just remove the brake pads and you push it out. Off the disk of course
@@olejakobsen2363 Yes, that can work, but you won't be able to control the release of brake fluid, and risk making a mess.
what chemicals do you use to boil the rust off?
It's citric acid
Great video, and helpfull for everybody.
Great video 👍
Nice Job bro 💪🏼
You need to lubricate the slider pins otherwise it’ll seize up pretty quickly.
Not on these styles...many manufacturers don't recommend lubricating these.
So when should we lubricate and when not? Can you explain please?
@@wcmauldin81what calipers are these for because it’s the first I’ve ever heard of it? They will get water ingress and rust.
I know most BMWs have this style and the service manual specifically states to clean the guide pins but so not lubricate. Due to the pins potentially being open to the elements, any lubricant could attract foreign contaminants.
Sealed systems such as Kia and others are within the metal caliper bracket and need to be lubricated.
@@viteckafu4730 именно эти нельзя смазывать.
Great result and proper process. However i prefer powder coating coz spray paint will be weakened over time.
Some folks don't like powder coating because it comes out a bit goopy-looking. The spray finish tends to retain details better. I've seen this on my motorcycle project.
Good job 👍
In 6 months those will need ALL this done again.
If you drive in salt. If not last some years.
Ridiculous statement, this will be strong, I have painted calipers many times and never even baked them. The immediate heat from the very first uses cake the paint, like powder coated. No once have any caliper that I have Painted, ever lost their paint other than after many years through normal wear and tear.
Use high temp paint or powder coat
Great finish! How long did you bake it for?
Beautifully done
Great video! Well done!
Nice to have all that equipment to do this.
You mean salt, lemons, a toothbrush, paint and an oven? Only thing most people won't have is the time it takes to do this.
look really good them.....how long did you bake them for?
20min max)
How long did you heat the lemon acid mixture to get the result?
معلم كبير 🎉 بس كنت اتمنى تعطيها لون أصفر او احمر 😂
Молодец красиво получилось.
200c for how long??
Nice job 👍
Nice job 👍🏽👏👏👏
What type of powder do you use to clean?
Great job!
Which paint was used? Looking for that exact finish but cant find.
can I use a compress to push out the cylinder?
What kind of paint products were used in the video and where can i get them from?
Молодец. Хорошая работа
How long on bake time should be done?
How many time use on lemon accid in power gas?
brilliant my man 🤘
How did you protect the coating inside the bore, which is the most important bit?
the bore in use is protected by the brake fluid, which as long as you replace at the correct intervals wouldn't suffer any corrosion issues, and the sealing surface is the piston anyway so don't need to stress to much on the bore
6 hours to get the paint dry. 6 hours in the oven @200° ? °C or °F ?
The acid does trash threads. Try it by putting a bolt and a nut in vinegar and see how loose the connection gets. I have done this.
If you were able to seal the threads well with some plastic fittings and maybe Teflon tape to seal them. It would work.
The piston housing itself doesn’t really see the piston. They don’t come into contact with the walls of the housing. Still. I would seal the piston hole off while using the …..vinegar or citric acid. I would not want that bore to be ate down by the acid.
The acid when washed off. Creates immediate flash rust. Yours were very clean. I don’t know how you achieved this.
I have achieved this by washing the metal off and immediately putting them in oil. Giving it no time to rust. Then I have to clean it again with solvent.
The zinc primer is not bad. It has anti rust capability.
Is this worth the time? Not really. You can buy the parts for not too bad. However. You can buy a rebuild kit for $5 and never do any of this at all. Just keep them rusted. The factory doesn’t coat them on many cars. They just rust. Newer cars coat them.
I have done all of this several times and am about to again. I might go through the trouble of de rusting. Only because I’m doing several calipers at once.
The paint is just high temp caliper pain and it does have to be baked on.
Powdercoating is better😊
Bro disassembled the caliper on the computer desk 😂😂
Ottimo lavoro super 👍👌
Гарна робота, а нітралізатор кислоти не використовували , соду 🤘😎
Factory or aftermarket calipers etc are not painted they are zinc plated
Women find men with painted brake calipers irresistible .
Hi. Thanks for the video. Why You use a heat after painting? Can I use a bike pump to extend the cylinder?
yes. you can use bike pump. heat is because for making sure paint doesnt fade when install on car
@@MrOner07 You can also put it out when caliber is conneted in your car, take it out disk and only push brake pedal.
You can use grease gun instead of air pressure, its safer and soaking calibers in winegar instead of citron acid, nice work anyway.
just make sure you fill it with brake fluid, grease will destroy the rubber.
How long it take in the oven?
What is the zinc primer for?
All that work , would it be better to buy a remanufactured
Caliper ?
NICE JOB!
A bunch of perfectionist criticizing a guy for how he painted his brake calipers.
отличная работа!
great but no grease on the slide pins ?????
Hello good job 😘😘😘
What type of paste did you use on the brake cylinder?
light grease lube type doesnt matter too much
Polyalkylene Glycol
No grease on the sliding pins ?
Kaliteli ve temiz iş, işini iyi yapıyor
Nice vid. What's rhe white grease you use on the various components?
Looks like lithium grease to me.
Having worked at a gm dealership until early 2000s....I can say that the factory never painted calipers from the factory... Unless it was a special package.... Which was NOT the majority
is this real? Lemon acid removes rust?
Was that silicon grease being used.
Caliper paint is heat resistant to 900*F. It is also very chemical resistant. Would have been nice to know what black primer you used and the final coat. They do look tremendous and that lemon acid trick is da shizat.
zinc primer probably silicon-organic base (temp resistant). And final paint based on silicone polymers. I would use paint for the calipers to be sure of paint compatibility. Thank you!
What air compressor are you using?
I recognize these. Mazda calipers. Did my recently as well, except I derusted them with electrolysis.
The logo on the calipers reads “Ford”, of course many Ford and Mazda parts are interchangeable depending on the market you are in .
Красотища то какая! 😻
Does that lemon acid remove rust so effectively? Can't believe my eyes!
White vinegar is great too.
The citric acid is wayyyyy faster than vinegar.
why the heating process if primer is air dried ?
Might i suggest using the correct size spanner rather than us a poorly fitting adjustable wrench, they are very prone to rounding over the edges of nuts. ☹
Отличная работа братан
This video is made from which country.
How long did you cooked tme?
Great Job ♫♫♫
Привет, какой краской красил?
This was good to a point… then adding lubrication that comes in contact with your brake fluid, makes the video bad. Only lubricate with brake fluid. But then I saw the Russian writing on the brake lube, and it all made sense 😂