Virtual Desktop is a total must have for every Quest / Pico user. Every other solution cannot compete with this one. The developer is very supportive and cares about every single issue. Tweaking the settings to get VR games running properly on a mid-range PC needs quite a lot more fiddling around with settings and knowledge on how resolution, VRAM, CPU+GPU and in-game graphics settings (especially texture size and DLSS) are working together. Most content creators do have a RTX 4080 GPUs or higher, so almost every game will run pretty good even with high standard settings. But if you have a RTX 2070 SUPER or RTX 3070 Laptop things are very different. You need to consider Codec Type, VRAM usage a lot and in some games like No Man's Sky or Kajak Mirage VR there is no way around using SSW to get a smooth gameplay with a decent visual quality. In the end a lot comes down to personal preference too. Some people may like a buttersmooth 90fps experience more than crisp graphis, others can't stand a single stutter. But i think it's important for the VR market and especially for new users, who may have used standalone to date and want to try PCVR, to know that they don't need a high end GPU to run VR. Of course sacrifices need to be made if you run VR on a RTX 2070 with only 8GB of VRAM. It's possible, but unfortunately not in quick and easy steps.
The real message here is that you need to learn how to use VD, so this video is a baseline for beginners to start with. As for all content creators having an RTX 4080 😂 I only just upgraded from a 2080 TI
@@MacInVR my fastest GPU is still a RTX 4070 with 12GB, which i would consider to be in the midrange area, but i also have PCs with an RTX 2070S, RTX 3070 and RTX 3070 Laptop, which all have 8GB of VRAM (and every system has different CPUs too). The baseline to start with VR and VD for people with those type of systems needs to consider VRAM, STEAM VR and in-game settings and how to measure the maximum performance on those type of systems and then go up with certain settings to get the best performance and/or visuals possible. There is basically no real beginners guide available how to run PCVR as a total newbie and explanation how all of this works to understand where to optimize depending on your individual preferences. But i guess that would just miss the point here, since this needs to be explained in-depth in a longer video with real-life examples. And those are not quick and easy steps.
Should I use VD if I have a rtx3070 32 gb of fast ram and I9? I have always used steam vr to play my games and have issues with stutters, shakes and black judders. Would VD help any of this? Thanks
Give it a try. Your system is perfectly capable of running on high setting (streamer tab). Meta has a very good refund policy, so if you use VD for less than 2 hours and you don't like it, you can get a full refund. However, if you're getting the same problems with VD (stutter/shakes), then there is something wrong with your setup so jump over to my discord for further help 😉
I've just had a bad issue with virtual desktop. Despite having a decent AX6000 Asus router, the bitrate was showing 17mbps in games (air link and steam link were the same). I tried everything and formatting windows and resetting the router didn't help. Now I have discovered the fix and it wasn't what I imagined. Virtual desktop was using my CPU onboard graphics (AMD 7700X). Every game looked terrible and I couldn't increase the bitrate because it only went up to 17mbps. So if you get this issue, go into 'device manager' and look under display adaptors. The cpu onboard graphics will be there. Just disable it (or disable it in the bios) and it will then use your main graphics card instead. I was at my wits end until I found this. I suspect it happened after AMD released an update on its software/drivers. So keep that in mind if this happens to you👍
These virtual desktop refresh videos are a treat. Thanks for always putting these out. Once I went wireless with your first video, I can't go back to wires. I also use a power line adapter to my studio. Great mention of it here! 🎉
The requirement for Ethernet surprisingly was not an issue for me! I can run it wirelessly using a TP-Link HX220 AX1800 router from the opposite end of the house. Gigabit speeds from the router and i get a quarter of that in my room, 120mbps bitrate for streaming (couldnt do 200mbps because apparently AV1 adds a ton of latency above 120mbps strangely, i need to verify if this is still an issue). All I had to do to make this work reliably is use my PC as a hotspot! This surprisingly works and i get 866mbps link on the headset. This may be worth a try for anyone who cannot get ethernet or a powerline to their room.
Love your detailed videos! Finally getting back into VR with my Quest 3 and Virtual Desktop has been awesome so far. Never messed with the settings to much but I will now. THANKS! One question.. does Airlink interfere with Virtual Desktop? Should I disable it? .. okay that's 2 lol
Thank you 👏👏👏 I've liked and subscribed . I'll follow your advice and have a go as a 76yr old simmer pc gaming isn't life grand 1983/4 Microsoft flight sim 😳 who would have thought how lucky we are now ❤
Steam VR link is free and works really well. I've got both, sadly, I bought into the hype with VD (oops) before I knew any better. Yes, it's got loads of features and yes, it works relatively well. But for most people, PCVR is Steam and Valve released software kinda cuts right to the chase - you go right into the Steam VR interface with all your games. The VD folk are strangely tribal and argumentative over this, whereas normal and reasonable people are like "Whatever works best for me." What works best for me is the free Steam VR link. It should be said that BOTH solutions can be buggy and I guess it can be said there's no harm having both of them. I'm about to fire up VD again for a bout of Alyx - it's been a good long while before I tried it. The last time VD was incredibly laggy and buggy (a year back).
On the streamer app, select the VDXR runtime. It optimises really well & can boost performance. Agreed about the tribal nature of VD users. I use VD because I'm used to it, but I use Pico Connect with a link cable if I'm sim-racing 😉
I'm using Virtual Desktop since my Oculus Go and I never would have bought a Pico4 if it didn't have Virtual Desktop. All of my headsets have it. One thing I noticed: you should have the 2.4 ghz channel and the 5 ghz channel of your router separated, so your headset doesn't have the option to choose automatically the strongest signal. With my Quest3 there is not much of a problem, but I noticed that my Pico4 liked to pick the 2.4 channel. Now seperated on the router I can dedicate the 5 ghz channel to my Pico4 and have 1200 mbps instead of somewhere lower than 400 mbps. Especially playing Beatsaber with the Pico4 has a lot of latency with the 2.4 channel.
Surprisingly enough, I get smoother gameplay with VD WITHOUT my 1660ti 16gb/6gb vram laptop connected to an ethernet cable compared to using Meta quest link's official cable! I bet it'd be EVEN smoother with VD and laptop connected via ethernet. But would love to see a tutorial vid on remote connecting to your pc via VD!
It works if your quest is directly plugged into an ethernet connection, out of a shared switch with your pc. This is a great workaround if you have 5ghz for example.
Are the powerline adapters merely range extenders for your main router? Wouldn’t a second router connected via wifi instead of Ethernet be a faster connection?
@ I was just curious if this might be a better option for me as I’m running a second router and VD is a stuttering mess. My current setup is: Main router (wifi 6) -> second wifi 6 router (connected via wifi) -> PC via Ethernet -> wireless to Quest 3
You problem is your 2nd router being connected by WiFi. The developer fully recommends ethernet to 2nd router, ethernet to PC, headset connected to 2nd router via WiFi. Powerline adaptors use your houses electric cables to transmit your internet to anywhere there is a standard plug. Then they use ethernet to get to the 2nd router OR some of the more expensive ones actually have built in WiFi (which worked for me till I laid the cable).
Great video mate; really to the point. BTW how far would a 3070TI from the setup you describe? I know the new 40XX have the new bells and whistles systems for frame generation; does that affect VR too or a 30XX card is just fine too ? Also does this work also if you want to play wired seated games or only wireless? Thanks!
30 series works well. 3070TI would be completely fine. I have a 3060ti which isnt exactly "amazing" for vr with only 8GB VRAM but it runs fine in all my vr games. Smooth 90hz on High preset at 500mbit. Virtual Desktop doesnt connect by wire only wireless, you would need a link cable and meta link software for wired.
I don't think virtual desktop is needed if you're just going to connect your PC to your headset. I do believe you require a special cable for that though. Virtual Desktop is intended for wireless PCVR gaming.
Hello, sir. My headset arrived earlier today, so I was amazed to find such useful content right away! I found out the capacity of the battery was not even close enough for my needs, so I also ordered a Bobovr S3 pro Super Strap. Now, one question, if I may. With the Virtual Desktop and s 5 GHz router, do I need that Oculus Link cable people are talking about? Thank you!
@@MacInVR thank you for the response! I have a router working in 5 GHz/2.4 GHz channels one meter away from my PC. I tried to play SUPERHOT using an AirLink/SteamLink (5 GHz) wireless connection and the quality was very poor, I experienced delays and WIFI connection loss a couple of times. My RX5700 XT, according to the specifications, should allow running the games on medium settings comfortably. If you could give me a clue as to what might be the issue, I would be much obliged.
@@fourtwain I use Virtual Desktop now instead of USB cable with a 5Ghz secondary router next to my PC. Only play sim racing games and it's much better than cable. Bear in mind my PC has an RTX4090, 64GB DDR5 RAM and top end Intel CPU so I can ramp up the settings and use the AV1 codec.
Hi, firstly thank you very much for all the information on how to play WRC better with VR. They are very very helpful!! I have a problem when I play wrc on my Quest 3 Virtual Desktop. While I have a great picture after doing the settings you suggested and I have a great picture when i'm inside the car, if I move my head even a little while wearing the VR of course, or there is a closed turn , the image shakes, makes "breaks", as a result of which it is very tiring for me!! And all this with an incredible image and 90 fps!!!! Am I doing something wrong?? Thanks in advance🙂
I'm very sorry to tell you this bit, EA WRC doesn't work well with Virtual Desktop. I have done an EA WRC video using the link cable, even then, it is still troublesome. Dirt Rally 2.0 works flawlessly however 🤩
I love the virtual desktop and how it seems infinitely clearer compared to the Oculus link, but what stops me from using it as a definitive solution is that there is no option to reduce the FOV tangent, as there is in the link. With the link I can set it to 0.85 without compromising the visible fov and have a huge performance gain, which allows me to maximize the resolution slide. With the VD, ultra or Godlike are already too heavy for my 6800xt.
Nice video, does this work for Asetto Corsa ? I'm not having much luck getting that into VR on my Q3 unless I use the MetaQuest link app instead of VD, I have been using VD for some months now in Microsoft Flight Sim and it works really well so I know my setup seems ok but not with AC??
Great stuff. This is my set up, I have the 4080 Super and Quest 3 and so I am able to use the AV1 codec. I also have a PrismXR air link bridge to connect my Quest 3 to my PC and it works great. Wireless VR is the way to go hands down.
@@BeamedAgain AV1 is rock solid, no issues. It's recommended by the developer of VD, Guy Godin. Although the comparison is by no means scientific, AV1 seems more stable, with almost no connection drops where the picture gets fuzzy. I seemed to have more of that kind of thing with H264+, although overalll its a solid codec.
Thank you for your response! :) I run a 4080 with a 7000x3d, and i shall be using the dedicated router so bit rate should be a non issue. I was set on AV1 10bit based but then i stumbled on the reddit post name bellow, where h264+ looked clearer than AV1 at 400bit rate, so that confused me again on what to choose, i have seen other RUclips videos saying use AV1 like you and others saying to use H264+, so i was just trying to get clarification on why exactly you used that codec. Reddit post: Virtual Desktop AV1 vs H264+ vs Airlink (Quest 3)
So will this work if my PC doesn't have WIFI but is directly connect to a ethernet cable to my WIFI box? I didn't want to spend $70 more for a WIFI built into my motherboard.
If your wifi strength is really good, is there still a requirement for the ethernet? Will this setup just simply not work at all without the cabled option?
Is it okay if I don't use Ethernet for virtual desktop? Or is it a absolute must have? My wifi is good as it is but if I need a ethernet I will get it for it, just curious.
I understand getting a second router is helpful. Personally i don't have one and don't feel like i need to. Note my main router is in the same room as my playspace. I get 1200 Mbps no problem on my Q2. I did sperate my wifi bands and only have my Quest and Phone using the 5Ghz band. Usually i turn my phone wifi off when playing just in case but i often don't and never had an issue in quality/latency. Now am i not understanding somthing? Am i ignoring the potential benefits? Or am i just lucky to have a good setup? Please tell me, im interested!
@@MacInVR Thanks ! I learned from the best🤘 I mostly used your guide years ago, i barely touched it since and itd still rock solid. I do have a question tho. So im using HEVC 10BIT, i see im limited to 150Mbps, but fir you it goes up to 200Mbps. Is this a Q2 bottleneck?
I’ve used VD for +4yrs starting with a Q1 and it works great. Your setup tips are very good. However, with the right settings I get pretty well the same clarity with smoother performance using Air Link at 200mbps Dynamic bitrate (hevc). Each to their own and whichever one works best for you it mainly comes down to personal preference imho. Also, I get the best results with flight sims like msfs2020 with both my Q3 and QPro/rtx4090 using an official link cable connected to my z790mb usb 3.2 type c port with 650mbps encoding bitrate (h264). Bit better distant clarity and 7-10ms lower latency. My z790 mb provides enough power to maintain my headset battery at +80% for +6hrs.
I suppose it's whatever suits you, I've used airline and it works well. I just prefer the ease of use and versatility of VD (don't get me started on the default settings in Oculus & debug tool!). Thanks for commenting, nice to get an alternate view 😀
@@MacInVR Ya, VD is definitely easier to setup and get good results, especially for those that don’t want to learn to use meta-link, ODT, and OTT. I’m still happy to have VD as a backup, just in case Meta temporarily screws up an update, lol!
I use an Iniu link cable that has a built in USB port for your Meta headset charger. That keeps everything at 100% for as long as you want, highly recommended and only £18 😉 amzn.to/45IbL4R
@@MacInVR Ya, I’ve used that and it works great. I still prefer my +4yo official link cable because it’s thinner, lighter, and more flexible. Fortunately my z790 usb3.2 gen2 type c port supply’s enough power, unlike many others. Actual performance is the same with both though. So, very good option for many others.
I have about the same setup as you, except for a 4090. I agree will all of your recommendations except for the need of a second router. I'm using a the same wifi6e router you are without any issues as my only router. If you are on the 6ghz network you have few other devices that are even accessing it at the same time over that frequency except for perhaps a newer smartphone. I have never seen any extra latency or drop on quality while playing games at high resolutions or settings. Now if you have a shit router, I'd agree to get a better one, but I don't see the need for a dedicated one. Good video.
Finally got around to buying Virtual Desktop to give it a try. Just upgraded from a 3060ti to a 4070 Super. Using Half Life Alyx as my test bench. It always ran great on the 3060ti. Can't say I'm seeing a huge improvement with the 4070 Super with Virtual Desktop. Tried different codecs, bit rates, frame rates etc. Get around 60-70fps in HL Alyx with setting at mostly high/ultra. I got a bit bored going back and forth between game and Virtual Desktop to change settings. And when the game starts it's centered about 90 degrees to the left of me for some reason! Can I be bothered with Virtual Desktop? I'm not seeing much improvement over Quest or Steam Link in my early tests to be honest.
Okay, set everything to default in the Streamer tab in the heqdset menu. Make sure the streamer app on the PC is set up, as I suggest in the video. Probably best to jump on my discord to get quicker answers (it's late in the UK).
Great video, thanks. I have an odd problem though that maybe someone could help with? I cannot get rid of the "Press menu button On your left controller to show/hide the menu" dialog in the right lower corner. I've tried everything I can think of. It is on top of all other items on the desktop too so it is impossible to see things it is covering. Any suggestions? I've tried click on & around it but no luck yet....
Is there any reason to buy Virtual Desktop if you have a link cable? from what I have seen it seems like you only need this if you dont have a link cable
Virtual Desktop is for wireless VR gaming, I don't like using a link cable unless I'm using my sim-rig. For more energetic games like Half Life Alyx, Contractors Showdown or Pavlov, I prefer wireless freedom 😀
Unfortunately, i have a connection problem with the VD app. I install windows again, I restart the quest 3 and reinstalling the vd app on Quest 3 and the pc, but whatever I do, the vd app can't find my pc, the app problem suddenly start 1 week ago, before that I easily connect to my computer without any problem. I also don't add any app or change anything to my pc. Also, the Steam link app and air link apps are working without problem, and I use them right now for my pc vr gaming. This is really ridiculous for the paid app to have this kind of problem.
@MacInVR haha ok. I have a laptop using Virtual Desktop with a i7 4070 in it. It's been a headache trying to tweak games to run smoothly and look sharp. I'll try your suggestions to hopefully fix the issues going on. Framerate is all over the place and I found turning ON the SSW actually helped.
Hi there. I'm trying to link up my daughter's old Windows 10 laptop to her Quest 3 for full body (avatar) tracking in her Quest 3 goggles. I guess that will work OK if as you say, Virtual Desktop is only interested in the internet speed in the flat she lives in. I am guessing she needs an ethernet cable to the laptop or adapter, as you say "No ifs, no buts" for it all to run optimally. My daughter lives in Bulgaria and I live in the UK, so difficult to get the knowledge into her 13 year old head. Does all this sound doable, before I go paying out for the Virtual Desktop app on her headset or phone. Are the recommended settings you mention necessary or do you think the general settings on install will be fine. Would be great to hear from you, to confirm what's necessary. Thanks for a reply if you get a mo. Cheers!
Meta has a great refund policy, so buy the app and try it out. If it doesn’t work, as long as you haven't used the app for over 2 hours, you can request a full refund
Nice video. What thing I cannot get to work is using a mouse and keyboard attached to my PC when in VD so I could work at my desk but still see 3 huge screens. I cannot see my mouse and keyboard on my desk which I heard is possible to add tracked devices. I also cannot see my mouse's cursor on the screen when in VD. Any tips? Thanks
Great video, 1 issue- when I open VR Desktop with my headset on the settings screen disappears after 1 sec and I dont have time to access or change any of the settings. How to reopen the settings page in VR?
If h264+ can go up to 400bits and you have a dedicated wifi6e router surely this would be a better options than AV1 10bit? you said av1 has all the shiny bits but never actually mentioned what these are?
That's a good point, H264 is an older codec, and running it at 400mbps introduces extra latency without any real benefit (for me). I run an RTX 4080, so AV1 10 Bit is the better option for me as it is the most modern & efficient codec. Great question btw, what system do.you run?
@@MacInVR Thank you for your response! :) I run a 4080 with a 7000x3d, and i shall be using the dedicated router so bit rate should be a non issue. I was set on AV1 10bit based but then i stumbled on the reddit post name bellow, where h264+ looked clearer than AV1 at 400bit rate, so that confused me again on what to choose, i have seen other RUclips videos saying use AV1 like you and others saying to use H264+, so i was just trying to get clarification on why exactly you used that codec. Reddit post: Virtual Desktop AV1 vs H264+ vs Airlink (Quest 3)
@@MacInVR Thank you for your response! :) I run a 4080 with a 7000x3d, and i shall be using the dedicated router so bit rate should be a non issue. I was set on AV1 10bit based but then i stumbled on the reddit post called Virtual Desktop AV1 vs H264+ vs Airlink (Quest 3), where h264+ looked clearer than AV1 at 400bit rate, so that confused me again on what to choose, i have seen other RUclips videos saying use AV1 like you and others saying to use H264+, so i was just trying to get clarification on why exactly you used that codec.
Question, I have a Quest 3, V6 router, PC is with an UTP connected to the router. Quest 3 gives Wifi 6 in the Router. Still I see 5G and 1200Mbit in the virtual desktop. Do I miss something here?
Seems to depend on the person or game. For the most part VD appears to come out on top based on what I'm reading on all recent reddits and comment sections. Glad it working for you though.
My connection to my shadow power pc breaks all fiew minutes, not in the same network and the the usb 3 doesnt work with quest link either. What to do ?
That is going to affect the quality of your wireless experience. You need over 500mbps realistically. VD depends entirely on your wifi strength, how far is away is your router 🤔
Yeah but there’s a second part that I have to do that says “in the app, accept the prompt to allow access or manually enter your meta user name” so what do I do
Virtual Desktop is to play the games that you have in you PC. If your games are in your Quest because you play standalone games, virtual desktop has no sense.
Direct from VD helpline (though I haven't tried it myself). "Can I connect to my computer over the Internet? Yes, make sure "Allow remote connections" is checked in the Streamer window. You'll also need to enable UPnP on your router and the Streamer App will forward the required ports automatically. If you want to manually configure your router, forward TCP ports 38810, 38820, 38830 and 38840. All traffic uses end-to-end encryption"
Meta have changed the rules and you now need to follow each other. Jump on my discord (link below), we have a dedicated bucket for referrals and following.
I can't even buy virtual desktop on Quest. I got a Vr headset last week, there seems to be a mark on a lens that won't go away no matter what micro fiber cloth I use. The graphics and in game stuff is all blurry and glitchy. Sometimes just stutters everywhere. To the point of making me sick. Meta won't accept any of my debit cards. And yeah, every game just seems bad (My rig can supposedly handle several vr headsets running max graphics. I just apparently can't set it all up, no matter what I try)
Any idea why my game looks so blurry when using VD? I'm on a 6800xt. It has has very poor overall clarity and quality, even worse than the same game on standalone. I've tried setting my resolution in VD to ultra, increasing my ingame resolution, and tried different codecs with no noticeable benefit. My PC and my Quest are the only devices connected to my router with a consistent maximum bit rate, but i do get occasional stutters and fluctuating latency. My flatscreen monitor is also capped at 2560x1440. Also tried video buffering with no difference, and I've asked around on the VD discord with no help at all.
I'm a bit stumped tbh, you've done everything I would suggest. Your setup should be able to handle everything, so a few questions: Is your Quest connected to you 5ghz wifi channel? What is your bitrate? Please set everything to default on the streaming tab, then start at potato 🥔 & see how you go. Jump into my discord for quicker response (link in description)
Hi Ive Done all You Have shown Is There AnyWay To Disable Steam Link So I Can Just Use Virtual Desktop To Stream My Steam VR Games To My Quest 3 Because When I Start Virtual Desktop All Starts Well Click Games Then The Steam Game I Want To Play But The Steam Link Keeps Taking Over So When I Click Menu To Change Virtual Desktop In Game It Keeps Showing Steam Link Menu And Settings
I download application for the streamer desktop app I open it to run and as soon as I hit the download button it closes and nothing happens I get no notifications no nothing
Hi. I've have Virgin Hub5 router which is WiFi6. My Virtual Desktop shows that I'm getting 5Ghz network at 1200 Mbps. Would connecting a 6e router (such as the one you show) to this give me 2400 Mbps? Thanks.
Yes I have a WiFi 5 Virgin hub connected to the router he showed (AXE75) which is then plugged into my pc. I connect the quest to the WiFi 6e router 6ghz band and I can play at 2400mbps. I get 500mbit on Virtual Desktop.
i have a tplink archer AXE75 and my quest 3 cant see the 6ghz band i tried everything im on v66 my quest pro can see the 6ghz band and works perfect im not sure whats going on , does anyone have the same router and can see 6ghz normally on their quest 3?
The reason I don't use VD is because my PC is far away from the router, and even the very idea of having to connect it directly via an Ethernet cable is automatically a pain in the .ss factor.
During the video, I mention that you can use powerline adaptors. My office is in the garden, 20m away from my router so I used TP-Link powerline adaptors to get internet (and ethernet) to my PC 🖥
@@MacInVR yes, thank you. I never liked the meta software. Meta forced me to update a few days ago and now I cant play DCS. I thought the virtual desktop would be the solution but I guess you need to be wired to a router but Im not and cant. I tried steamvr but its no good. Maybe Ill try to revert meta back to its old drivers.
Okay, you're missing the point. A lot of my friends play DCS via Virtual Desktop. It's a wireless service that bypasses Meta link. Go to the store on your Meta headset (in headset) search for virtual desktop, it costs about $19.99, download it, follow my tips, play DCS
Love how all these videos are the same... They show you purchasing the app (for whatever reason), and then the settings... Nobody shows you how to actually launch games and play... smh...
SSW no longer causes shimmering in games. The recommendation to disable it is incorrect. By making this incorrect recommendation, you are misleading people into losing half the fps they could otherwise achieve. Having a second dedicated router is also an incorrect recommendation. Running two separate WiFi networks is a recipe for RFI. Instead, optimizing a single WiFi network is the best way to ensure optimal network performance.
The developer Guy Godin recommends using a dedicated router. It is well known within the community that this is the best option to optimise VD. SSW is a personal choice, and it absolutely does not work with all games. I've recently tried SSW with EA WRC & Contractors Showdown, it made the experience worse. Yes, in the right circumstances, SSW is a great tool but that's all it is, a tool.
@@MacInVR - Guy Goodin & anyone else who recommends a separate dedicated wireless AP/router for PCVR is wrong. They make this recommendation because a) they aren’t network specialists themselves, b) most people are unwilling to expend any effort to learn enough about optimizing WiFi to do this correctly, & c) aren’t willing to spend the money to replace their existing WiFi network, if required. Unfortunately, this leads to problems; most of the horror stories one reads about people who tried PCVR but had bad experiences can be traced to poor WiFi network configuration & performance. What’s cheapest & easiest often isn’t best.
We obviously bow to your superior knowledge Roly, but if you listen to Mac's video, he clearly states that the settings he uses works for him.Those settings are may not be to everyone's system,and experimentation, with patience, is needed. Unless you can come up with better ideas, I'm sticking with Mac
Mac's recommendation (imo) to not use SSW and adjust your settings accordingly for the best experience is the way to go. If it's incorrect then I am also 'misleading' people as I always suggest turning it off as it causes me to see shimmering in many games and also frame stutters (which I don't get when it is switched off). Mac also states in the video "These are MY best settings, Use these as a base, and work out what's best for you" Everyone has differing set ups and will all have different results.
Virtual Desktop is a total must have for every Quest / Pico user. Every other solution cannot compete with this one. The developer is very supportive and cares about every single issue.
Tweaking the settings to get VR games running properly on a mid-range PC needs quite a lot more fiddling around with settings and knowledge on how resolution, VRAM, CPU+GPU and in-game graphics settings (especially texture size and DLSS) are working together. Most content creators do have a RTX 4080 GPUs or higher, so almost every game will run pretty good even with high standard settings. But if you have a RTX 2070 SUPER or RTX 3070 Laptop things are very different. You need to consider Codec Type, VRAM usage a lot and in some games like No Man's Sky or Kajak Mirage VR there is no way around using SSW to get a smooth gameplay with a decent visual quality. In the end a lot comes down to personal preference too. Some people may like a buttersmooth 90fps experience more than crisp graphis, others can't stand a single stutter.
But i think it's important for the VR market and especially for new users, who may have used standalone to date and want to try PCVR, to know that they don't need a high end GPU to run VR. Of course sacrifices need to be made if you run VR on a RTX 2070 with only 8GB of VRAM. It's possible, but unfortunately not in quick and easy steps.
The real message here is that you need to learn how to use VD, so this video is a baseline for beginners to start with.
As for all content creators having an RTX 4080 😂 I only just upgraded from a 2080 TI
@@MacInVR my fastest GPU is still a RTX 4070 with 12GB, which i would consider to be in the midrange area, but i also have PCs with an RTX 2070S, RTX 3070 and RTX 3070 Laptop, which all have 8GB of VRAM (and every system has different CPUs too).
The baseline to start with VR and VD for people with those type of systems needs to consider VRAM, STEAM VR and in-game settings and how to measure the maximum performance on those type of systems and then go up with certain settings to get the best performance and/or visuals possible.
There is basically no real beginners guide available how to run PCVR as a total newbie and explanation how all of this works to understand where to optimize depending on your individual preferences.
But i guess that would just miss the point here, since this needs to be explained in-depth in a longer video with real-life examples. And those are not quick and easy steps.
Should I use VD if I have a rtx3070 32 gb of fast ram and I9? I have always used steam vr to play my games and have issues with stutters, shakes and black judders. Would VD help any of this?
Thanks
Give it a try. Your system is perfectly capable of running on high setting (streamer tab).
Meta has a very good refund policy, so if you use VD for less than 2 hours and you don't like it, you can get a full refund.
However, if you're getting the same problems with VD (stutter/shakes), then there is something wrong with your setup so jump over to my discord for further help 😉
@@MacInVR I'll give it a try, that fast reply earned a sub. Thanks for the help 👍🏻
Honestly Mac you’re the only one I’ve seen who explains the codecs and what effect they have on latency. Thank you!
I've just had a bad issue with virtual desktop. Despite having a decent AX6000 Asus router, the bitrate was showing 17mbps in games (air link and steam link were the same). I tried everything and formatting windows and resetting the router didn't help. Now I have discovered the fix and it wasn't what I imagined. Virtual desktop was using my CPU onboard graphics (AMD 7700X). Every game looked terrible and I couldn't increase the bitrate because it only went up to 17mbps. So if you get this issue, go into 'device manager' and look under display adaptors. The cpu onboard graphics will be there. Just disable it (or disable it in the bios) and it will then use your main graphics card instead. I was at my wits end until I found this. I suspect it happened after AMD released an update on its software/drivers. So keep that in mind if this happens to you👍
These virtual desktop refresh videos are a treat. Thanks for always putting these out. Once I went wireless with your first video, I can't go back to wires.
I also use a power line adapter to my studio. Great mention of it here! 🎉
They are a life saver if you can't get ethernet to your PC 😊
The requirement for Ethernet surprisingly was not an issue for me!
I can run it wirelessly using a TP-Link HX220 AX1800 router from the opposite end of the house.
Gigabit speeds from the router and i get a quarter of that in my room, 120mbps bitrate for streaming (couldnt do 200mbps because apparently AV1 adds a ton of latency above 120mbps strangely, i need to verify if this is still an issue).
All I had to do to make this work reliably is use my PC as a hotspot! This surprisingly works and i get 866mbps link on the headset. This may be worth a try for anyone who cannot get ethernet or a powerline to their room.
Love your detailed videos! Finally getting back into VR with my Quest 3 and Virtual Desktop has been awesome so far. Never messed with the settings to much but I will now. THANKS! One question.. does Airlink interfere with Virtual Desktop? Should I disable it? .. okay that's 2 lol
I don't think it does interfere, you can always check using the PC streamer app by clicking check for interfering apps 😉
My first ever Mac In VR content was a Virtual Desktop setup video. Now I’m a channel member and you can be too!!
You've come full circle mate 😍
How do I unsubscribe from this guy?
@IndieVR you can't 😈
@@IndieVR If you click the thumbs up button and the the bell icon you’ll be unsubscribed. 👍+🔔= 🚫
@@Assassin32VR Thanks!!! I also became a channel member just to make sure 🥳
Thank you 👏👏👏 I've liked and subscribed . I'll follow your advice and have a go as a 76yr old simmer pc gaming isn't life grand 1983/4 Microsoft flight sim 😳 who would have thought how lucky we are now ❤
That makes you the 2nd oldest member of my community 😉
Steam VR link is free and works really well.
I've got both, sadly, I bought into the hype with VD (oops) before I knew any better.
Yes, it's got loads of features and yes, it works relatively well.
But for most people, PCVR is Steam and Valve released software kinda cuts right to the chase - you go right into the Steam VR interface with all your games.
The VD folk are strangely tribal and argumentative over this, whereas normal and reasonable people are like "Whatever works best for me."
What works best for me is the free Steam VR link.
It should be said that BOTH solutions can be buggy and I guess it can be said there's no harm having both of them.
I'm about to fire up VD again for a bout of Alyx - it's been a good long while before I tried it. The last time VD was incredibly laggy and buggy (a year back).
On the streamer app, select the VDXR runtime. It optimises really well & can boost performance.
Agreed about the tribal nature of VD users. I use VD because I'm used to it, but I use Pico Connect with a link cable if I'm sim-racing 😉
Best video ever. Ivf watched a bunch but couldn’t still figure it out.
Thank you so much!!!!
I'm using Virtual Desktop since my Oculus Go and I never would have bought a Pico4 if it didn't have Virtual Desktop. All of my headsets have it. One thing I noticed: you should have the 2.4 ghz channel and the 5 ghz channel of your router separated, so your headset doesn't have the option to choose automatically the strongest signal. With my Quest3 there is not much of a problem, but I noticed that my Pico4 liked to pick the 2.4 channel. Now seperated on the router I can dedicate the 5 ghz channel to my Pico4 and have 1200 mbps instead of somewhere lower than 400 mbps. Especially playing Beatsaber with the Pico4 has a lot of latency with the 2.4 channel.
Yh when i got my router I had to seperate 2.4 and 5ghz from 6ghz, before i was getting 1000mbps and when i split the speeds I was on 6ghz at 2400mbps
@@BeamedAgain I have a new router with Wifi 6+ and have similar speeds in VD with my Quest3. But I'm happy with the 1200 mbps on my Pico 4 as well.
How do we go about separating the signals and assigning them to specific connections? Thank you in advance
@@Subfightr That's in the setup of your router, the WiFi configuration. In those settings you can give each channel a different password.
Surprisingly enough, I get smoother gameplay with VD WITHOUT my 1660ti 16gb/6gb vram laptop connected to an ethernet cable compared to using Meta quest link's official cable! I bet it'd be EVEN smoother with VD and laptop connected via ethernet. But would love to see a tutorial vid on remote connecting to your pc via VD!
It works if your quest is directly plugged into an ethernet connection, out of a shared switch with your pc. This is a great workaround if you have 5ghz for example.
VD is fantastic but should offer more presets between ultra (2800px) and godlike (3200px)
Are the powerline adapters merely range extenders for your main router?
Wouldn’t a second router connected via wifi instead of Ethernet be a faster connection?
My garden office is 20m away from my house so that was the only option I had at that time. I have since run a full ethernet cable to the mac-cave 😉
@ I was just curious if this might be a better option for me as I’m running a second router and VD is a stuttering mess.
My current setup is:
Main router (wifi 6) -> second wifi 6 router (connected via wifi) -> PC via Ethernet -> wireless to Quest 3
You problem is your 2nd router being connected by WiFi. The developer fully recommends ethernet to 2nd router, ethernet to PC, headset connected to 2nd router via WiFi. Powerline adaptors use your houses electric cables to transmit your internet to anywhere there is a standard plug. Then they use ethernet to get to the 2nd router OR some of the more expensive ones actually have built in WiFi (which worked for me till I laid the cable).
Great video mate; really to the point. BTW how far would a 3070TI from the setup you describe? I know the new 40XX have the new bells and whistles systems for frame generation; does that affect VR too or a 30XX card is just fine too ? Also does this work also if you want to play wired seated games or only wireless? Thanks!
30 series works well. 3070TI would be completely fine. I have a 3060ti which isnt exactly "amazing" for vr with only 8GB VRAM but it runs fine in all my vr games. Smooth 90hz on High preset at 500mbit. Virtual Desktop doesnt connect by wire only wireless, you would need a link cable and meta link software for wired.
And does Virtual Desktop support direct connection to PC via USB-C cable? This would be much more reliable than any Wi-Fi connection
I don't think virtual desktop is needed if you're just going to connect your PC to your headset. I do believe you require a special cable for that though. Virtual Desktop is intended for wireless PCVR gaming.
Great video!! the FL5 Type R on your wall caught my attention!! Kuddos sir!
It's my dream car!! I've had a few Type R's & an S2000 over time 😉
Great video
I have the same wifi 6 router as you but I have a 4070 GPU so I am hoping it looks pretty good
Hello, sir. My headset arrived earlier today, so I was amazed to find such useful content right away!
I found out the capacity of the battery was not even close enough for my needs, so I also ordered a Bobovr S3 pro Super Strap.
Now, one question, if I may. With the Virtual Desktop and s 5 GHz router, do I need that Oculus Link cable people are talking about?
Thank you!
You do not need it, you can play all your PC VR wireless now. Thanks for your nice comments 👍
@@MacInVR thank you for the response!
I have a router working in 5 GHz/2.4 GHz channels one meter away from my PC. I tried to play SUPERHOT using an AirLink/SteamLink (5 GHz) wireless connection and the quality was very poor, I experienced delays and WIFI connection loss a couple of times.
My RX5700 XT, according to the specifications, should allow running the games on medium settings comfortably. If you could give me a clue as to what might be the issue, I would be much obliged.
@@MacInVR should I buy the Virtual Desktop and start using it instead?
@@fourtwain I use Virtual Desktop now instead of USB cable with a 5Ghz secondary router next to my PC. Only play sim racing games and it's much better than cable. Bear in mind my PC has an RTX4090, 64GB DDR5 RAM and top end Intel CPU so I can ramp up the settings and use the AV1 codec.
Hi,
firstly thank you very much for all the information on how to play WRC better with VR.
They are very very helpful!!
I have a problem when I play wrc on my Quest 3 Virtual Desktop.
While I have a great picture after doing the settings you suggested and I have a great picture when i'm inside the car, if I move my head even a little while wearing the VR of course, or there is a closed turn , the image shakes, makes "breaks", as a result of which it is very tiring for me!!
And all this with an incredible image and 90 fps!!!!
Am I doing something wrong??
Thanks in advance🙂
I'm very sorry to tell you this bit, EA WRC doesn't work well with Virtual Desktop. I have done an EA WRC video using the link cable, even then, it is still troublesome.
Dirt Rally 2.0 works flawlessly however 🤩
I love the virtual desktop and how it seems infinitely clearer compared to the Oculus link, but what stops me from using it as a definitive solution is that there is no option to reduce the FOV tangent, as there is in the link.
With the link I can set it to 0.85 without compromising the visible fov and have a huge performance gain, which allows me to maximize the resolution slide. With the VD, ultra or Godlike are already too heavy for my 6800xt.
That is a good point. You can contact Guy Godin (the dev) directly on X (Twitter) & he usually responds to great ideas 🤩
Nice video, does this work for Asetto Corsa ? I'm not having much luck getting that into VR on my Q3 unless I use the MetaQuest link app instead of VD, I have been using VD for some months now in Microsoft Flight Sim and it works really well so I know my setup seems ok but not with AC??
I'm a but embarrassed (considering I'm a sim-racing fan), I've never played AC in VR 😕
@@MacInVR Oh dear :) It seems pretty good in terms of VR but i'd prefer to use just one connection method (VD) - I'll keep trying :)
Ok 👍
Are you using Content Manager? I think you need to change AC GFX/VR settings to use Oculus instead of OpenVR.
@@SpikeColgate Yep, got that set but will only go into VCR if i use MQ-Link instead of Virtual Desktop, it works ok so I'm not too bothered now TBH
9:02 I wish you could have explaned a bit more about the codec and what the difference are and what their roles are.
Great stuff. This is my set up, I have the 4080 Super and Quest 3 and so I am able to use the AV1 codec. I also have a PrismXR air link bridge to connect my Quest 3 to my PC and it works great. Wireless VR is the way to go hands down.
How is AV1 compared to H264+? I have a 3060 ti so I can't run AV1 :( But h264+ still looks really good at 500mbit
@@BeamedAgain AV1 is rock solid, no issues. It's recommended by the developer of VD, Guy Godin. Although the comparison is by no means scientific, AV1 seems more stable, with almost no connection drops where the picture gets fuzzy. I seemed to have more of that kind of thing with H264+, although overalll its a solid codec.
Thank you for your response! :)
I run a 4080 with a 7000x3d, and i shall be using the dedicated router so bit rate should be a non issue.
I was set on AV1 10bit based but then i stumbled on the reddit post name bellow, where h264+ looked clearer than AV1 at 400bit rate, so that confused me again on what to choose, i have seen other RUclips videos saying use AV1 like you and others saying to use H264+, so i was just trying to get clarification on why exactly you used that codec.
Reddit post: Virtual Desktop AV1 vs H264+ vs Airlink (Quest 3)
So will this work if my PC doesn't have WIFI but is directly connect to a ethernet cable to my WIFI box?
I didn't want to spend $70 more for a WIFI built into my motherboard.
Yes
If your wifi strength is really good, is there still a requirement for the ethernet? Will this setup just simply not work at all without the cabled option?
Is it okay if I don't use Ethernet for virtual desktop? Or is it a absolute must have? My wifi is good as it is but if I need a ethernet I will get it for it, just curious.
VD depends on a clean, uncluttered wifi signal. The developer recommends that you use ethernet for your PC. Hope that helps 😉
You'll also want to have your router within eyesight, or so I read.
I understand getting a second router is helpful.
Personally i don't have one and don't feel like i need to.
Note my main router is in the same room as my playspace.
I get 1200 Mbps no problem on my Q2. I did sperate my wifi bands and only have my Quest and Phone using the 5Ghz band. Usually i turn my phone wifi off when playing just in case but i often don't and never had an issue in quality/latency.
Now am i not understanding somthing? Am i ignoring the potential benefits? Or am i just lucky to have a good setup?
Please tell me, im interested!
With your setup, you don't require a 2nd router. You've basically done everything I would recommend, so well done 😉
@@MacInVR
Thanks ! I learned from the best🤘
I mostly used your guide years ago, i barely touched it since and itd still rock solid.
I do have a question tho. So im using HEVC 10BIT, i see im limited to 150Mbps, but fir you it goes up to 200Mbps.
Is this a Q2 bottleneck?
Unchecked the "Automatic Bitrate" on the streamer app, that will allow you run at full 200mbps
@@MacInVR Thats actually what i dit but its always been stuck a 150 max 🤷♂️
amazing tutorial !
Thanks 😉
I’ve used VD for +4yrs starting with a Q1 and it works great. Your setup tips are very good. However, with the right settings I get pretty well the same clarity with smoother performance using Air Link at 200mbps Dynamic bitrate (hevc). Each to their own and whichever one works best for you it mainly comes down to personal preference imho.
Also, I get the best results with flight sims like msfs2020 with both my Q3 and QPro/rtx4090 using an official link cable connected to my z790mb usb 3.2 type c port with 650mbps encoding bitrate (h264). Bit better distant clarity and 7-10ms lower latency. My z790 mb provides enough power to maintain my headset battery at +80% for +6hrs.
I suppose it's whatever suits you, I've used airline and it works well. I just prefer the ease of use and versatility of VD (don't get me started on the default settings in Oculus & debug tool!).
Thanks for commenting, nice to get an alternate view 😀
@@MacInVR Ya, VD is definitely easier to setup and get good results, especially for those that don’t want to learn to use meta-link, ODT, and OTT. I’m still happy to have VD as a backup, just in case Meta temporarily screws up an update, lol!
@tomc1380 it's never been known 😳😂
I use an Iniu link cable that has a built in USB port for your Meta headset charger. That keeps everything at 100% for as long as you want, highly recommended and only £18 😉
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@@MacInVR Ya, I’ve used that and it works great. I still prefer my +4yo official link cable because it’s thinner, lighter, and more flexible. Fortunately my z790 usb3.2 gen2 type c port supply’s enough power, unlike many others. Actual performance is the same with both though. So, very good option for many others.
I have about the same setup as you, except for a 4090. I agree will all of your recommendations except for the need of a second router. I'm using a the same wifi6e router you are without any issues as my only router. If you are on the 6ghz network you have few other devices that are even accessing it at the same time over that frequency except for perhaps a newer smartphone. I have never seen any extra latency or drop on quality while playing games at high resolutions or settings. Now if you have a shit router, I'd agree to get a better one, but I don't see the need for a dedicated one. Good video.
He's not saying it's a must, just that it's helpful to get the most out of it. I run it the same way you do, with no issues, that I'm aware of anyway.
Finally got around to buying Virtual Desktop to give it a try. Just upgraded from a 3060ti to a 4070 Super. Using Half Life Alyx as my test bench. It always ran great on the 3060ti. Can't say I'm seeing a huge improvement with the 4070 Super with Virtual Desktop. Tried different codecs, bit rates, frame rates etc. Get around 60-70fps in HL Alyx with setting at mostly high/ultra. I got a bit bored going back and forth between game and Virtual Desktop to change settings. And when the game starts it's centered about 90 degrees to the left of me for some reason! Can I be bothered with Virtual Desktop? I'm not seeing much improvement over Quest or Steam Link in my early tests to be honest.
Did you use VD with your old setup? Sounds like something is wrong to me, like a driver update or something? Should be an upgrade with your new GPU
@@MacInVR No, I’ve never used VD until now.
Okay, set everything to default in the Streamer tab in the heqdset menu. Make sure the streamer app on the PC is set up, as I suggest in the video.
Probably best to jump on my discord to get quicker answers (it's late in the UK).
@@MacInVR Okay. I'll look you up in Discord.
There's a link in the description somewhere 😉
Great video, thanks. I have an odd problem though that maybe someone could help with? I cannot get rid of the "Press menu button On your left controller to show/hide the menu" dialog in the right lower corner. I've tried everything I can think of. It is on top of all other items on the desktop too so it is impossible to see things it is covering. Any suggestions? I've tried click on & around it but no luck yet....
That's a really odd problem? If nobody can help you here, please jump on my discord, someone should be able to help you 😉
Is there any reason to buy Virtual Desktop if you have a link cable? from what I have seen it seems like you only need this if you dont have a link cable
Virtual Desktop is for wireless VR gaming, I don't like using a link cable unless I'm using my sim-rig.
For more energetic games like Half Life Alyx, Contractors Showdown or Pavlov, I prefer wireless freedom 😀
Unfortunately, i have a connection problem with the VD app. I install windows again, I restart the quest 3 and reinstalling the vd app on Quest 3 and the pc, but whatever I do, the vd app can't find my pc, the app problem suddenly start 1 week ago, before that I easily connect to my computer without any problem. I also don't add any app or change anything to my pc. Also, the Steam link app and air link apps are working without problem, and I use them right now for my pc vr gaming. This is really ridiculous for the paid app to have this kind of problem.
I have a 5hz router. Does a 6hz router give a better framerate or clarity? Should I upgrade that or it doesn't matter.
No, stay with what you have. 6ghz is just for RUclips braggarts like me 😳😂
@MacInVR haha ok. I have a laptop using Virtual Desktop with a i7 4070 in it. It's been a headache trying to tweak games to run smoothly and look sharp. I'll try your suggestions to hopefully fix the issues going on. Framerate is all over the place and I found turning ON the SSW actually helped.
Please use the performance overlay to tune your setup. Join my discord to share screenshots so we can help you directly 😉
Hi there. I'm trying to link up my daughter's old Windows 10 laptop to her Quest 3 for full body (avatar) tracking in her Quest 3 goggles. I guess that will work OK if as you say, Virtual Desktop is only interested in the internet speed in the flat she lives in. I am guessing she needs an ethernet cable to the laptop or adapter, as you say "No ifs, no buts" for it all to run optimally. My daughter lives in Bulgaria and I live in the UK, so difficult to get the knowledge into her 13 year old head. Does all this sound doable, before I go paying out for the Virtual Desktop app on her headset or phone. Are the recommended settings you mention necessary or do you think the general settings on install will be fine. Would be great to hear from you, to confirm what's necessary. Thanks for a reply if you get a mo. Cheers!
Meta has a great refund policy, so buy the app and try it out. If it doesn’t work, as long as you haven't used the app for over 2 hours, you can request a full refund
Nice video. What thing I cannot get to work is using a mouse and keyboard attached to my PC when in VD so I could work at my desk but still see 3 huge screens. I cannot see my mouse and keyboard on my desk which I heard is possible to add tracked devices. I also cannot see my mouse's cursor on the screen when in VD. Any tips? Thanks
Is it possible with a mac laptop to have multiple virtual screens to work on ?😊
I have no experience with Mac's, sorry 😐
Meta quest finally works now with this
Meta Quest always worked with this?
Great video, 1 issue- when I open VR Desktop with my headset on the settings screen disappears after 1 sec and I dont have time to access or change any of the settings. How to reopen the settings page in VR?
If h264+ can go up to 400bits and you have a dedicated wifi6e router surely this would be a better options than AV1 10bit? you said av1 has all the shiny bits but never actually mentioned what these are?
That's a good point, H264 is an older codec, and running it at 400mbps introduces extra latency without any real benefit (for me).
I run an RTX 4080, so AV1 10 Bit is the better option for me as it is the most modern & efficient codec.
Great question btw, what system do.you run?
@@MacInVR
Thank you for your response! :)
I run a 4080 with a 7000x3d, and i shall be using the dedicated router so bit rate should be a non issue.
I was set on AV1 10bit based but then i stumbled on the reddit post name bellow, where h264+ looked clearer than AV1 at 400bit rate, so that confused me again on what to choose, i have seen other RUclips videos saying use AV1 like you and others saying to use H264+, so i was just trying to get clarification on why exactly you used that codec.
Reddit post: Virtual Desktop AV1 vs H264+ vs Airlink (Quest 3)
@@MacInVR Thank you for your response! :)
I run a 4080 with a 7000x3d, and i shall be using the dedicated router so bit rate should be a non issue.
I was set on AV1 10bit based but then i stumbled on the reddit post called Virtual Desktop AV1 vs H264+ vs Airlink (Quest 3), where h264+ looked clearer than AV1 at 400bit rate, so that confused me again on what to choose, i have seen other RUclips videos saying use AV1 like you and others saying to use H264+, so i was just trying to get clarification on why exactly you used that codec.
Love your intro!!!!
Thanks for the referral, but its all used up.
Thanks man, I try to keep it lighthearted 😉
Hey, how can i add you to my friend list to get less price for VD?
Jump on my discord and go to referral links, someone will help you there 😉
Question, I have a Quest 3, V6 router, PC is with an UTP connected to the router. Quest 3 gives Wifi 6 in the Router. Still I see 5G and 1200Mbit in the virtual desktop. Do I miss something here?
how do i capture virtual desktop in obs for streaming purposes? like i wanna stream vr games on twitch/youtube using virtual desktop
What codec would you use for Quest Pro for best graphics?
I have no experience with Quest Pro, sorry. This question also depends on your PC and wifi setup 🤔
Do you need a link cable to play virtual desktop for pcvr?
The whole idea of VD is that it's wireless so no, you don't need a link cable 🙄
@@MacInVR can I use VD by using Link Cable? my Router is too far away and does not provide consistent wireless connection
Thanks! Now i can test my gorilla tag fan game in unity!
hillarious. why the ell are you using VD for Windows?
I don't understand the question?
Best tutorial ever.
Thanks 😊
Can you use the oculus link cable with VD. My router will not allow 5ghz
No point, VD is a wireless service. You'd be better off upgrading your router to one that has 5 or 6ghz
Thanks, all good. The cable just used for charging and everything works a treat. Thanks!
Vd is pretty much irrelevant now cause air link is so good. I use air link and then link cable with certain games if I want the best visual clarity
Seems to depend on the person or game. For the most part VD appears to come out on top based on what I'm reading on all recent reddits and comment sections. Glad it working for you though.
I've started using the link cable recently for my sim-racing but I still favour VD for wireless PC gaming
My connection to my shadow power pc breaks all fiew minutes, not in the same network and the the usb 3 doesnt work with quest link either. What to do ?
is the router a must i am using wifi 6 tp link ax3000 2400 mbps with a hot spot and stuck at 286 mbps speed
That is going to affect the quality of your wireless experience. You need over 500mbps realistically.
VD depends entirely on your wifi strength, how far is away is your router 🤔
Yeah but there’s a second part that I have to do that says “in the app, accept the prompt to allow access or manually enter your meta user name” so what do I do
Go to the Meta (or Pico) app, se3 what your user name is and enter it into the streamer app 🤔
Do you need a pc? Or can you just use virtual desktop?
Virtual Desktop is to play the games that you have in you PC. If your games are in your Quest because you play standalone games, virtual desktop has no sense.
For me the VD make the quest blurry, terrible flickering and performance.
Went back to steam vr and was near perfect.
With a 4080 super.
What games were you playing?
Can i use it while traveling like remote play from hotel
Direct from VD helpline (though I haven't tried it myself).
"Can I connect to my computer over the Internet?
Yes, make sure "Allow remote connections" is checked in the Streamer window. You'll also need to enable UPnP on your router and the Streamer App will forward the required ports automatically. If you want to manually configure your router, forward TCP ports 38810, 38820, 38830 and 38840. All traffic uses end-to-end encryption"
The VD referral link states we have to be following each other in order for me to use it?
Meta have changed the rules and you now need to follow each other. Jump on my discord (link below), we have a dedicated bucket for referrals and following.
Hi bud please update you referral link as it limited now
If you jump on my discord, there will be more referral links (check description).
If you use wifi 6e, next time try with 6GHz and set the bitrate to 500 Mbps.
this is the way. h264+ 500mbit looks so clean
Thanks very informative as I want to be able to use VR sculpting programs on Steam.....Laurie NZ
What is a codecs and where can I get it from
Hey man your really good keep going
Thanks 😍
I can't even buy virtual desktop on Quest. I got a Vr headset last week, there seems to be a mark on a lens that won't go away no matter what micro fiber cloth I use. The graphics and in game stuff is all blurry and glitchy. Sometimes just stutters everywhere. To the point of making me sick. Meta won't accept any of my debit cards. And yeah, every game just seems bad (My rig can supposedly handle several vr headsets running max graphics. I just apparently can't set it all up, no matter what I try)
Sounds like your headset is faulty. Open a ticket with Meta (I'm guessing it's a Quest?).
As for your cards, can't help, sorry 😐
Any idea why my game looks so blurry when using VD? I'm on a 6800xt. It has has very poor overall clarity and quality, even worse than the same game on standalone. I've tried setting my resolution in VD to ultra, increasing my ingame resolution, and tried different codecs with no noticeable benefit. My PC and my Quest are the only devices connected to my router with a consistent maximum bit rate, but i do get occasional stutters and fluctuating latency. My flatscreen monitor is also capped at 2560x1440. Also tried video buffering with no difference, and I've asked around on the VD discord with no help at all.
I'm a bit stumped tbh, you've done everything I would suggest. Your setup should be able to handle everything, so a few questions:
Is your Quest connected to you 5ghz wifi channel?
What is your bitrate?
Please set everything to default on the streaming tab, then start at potato 🥔 & see how you go.
Jump into my discord for quicker response (link in description)
Hi Ive Done all You Have shown Is There AnyWay To Disable Steam Link So I Can Just Use Virtual Desktop To Stream My Steam VR Games To My Quest 3 Because When I Start Virtual Desktop All Starts Well Click Games Then The Steam Game I Want To Play But The Steam Link Keeps Taking Over So When I Click Menu To Change Virtual Desktop In Game It Keeps Showing Steam Link Menu And Settings
Do you mean the Steam VR UI? If so, that's normal. VD uses Steam VR if it needs too. Is it causing you problems?
@@MacInVR No Just Wanted To Make Sure Was Normal
I can see my desktop, but no games launch in vr 😂 I tried to use VR Desktops game tab and none of my steam vr games appear there 😢
I download application for the streamer desktop app I open it to run and as soon as I hit the download button it closes and nothing happens I get no notifications no nothing
Thank you.
Cheers Ron 🍻
Every time I go to setup the streamer thing. It crashes every time the setup starts. How in the world do I fix this?!
I'm guessing it's your anti-virus software, turn it off then try again?
i keep getting "computer is unreachable"when i try to connect to my pc. how do i fix this?
Make sure your PC and Quest are on the same network (PC connected via ethernet & Quest connected to wifi)
Excellent video! Thank you!
The video's volume is on the low side
I shall look into it, thanks 😊
(shrug) seems good to me. Always has
Agree it was on low side had to turn phone vol right up. Excellent informative video though.👍
Have you tried turning the volume up 🤯
@@evansworkspace This was 2 months ago. He fixed the issue with the video long ago.
Good stuff Mac
Cheers pal 👍
@1:00 What game is this please?
It's Automobilista 2 running on PC
TBH i think this app should be integrated into the Quest OS as basic connectivity feature and not an extra purchase.
They don't have a great relationship, so I doubt that will ever happen 😳
@@MacInVR even better reason for an integrated solution for meta xD
As a group of creators, we tried to get Pico to bundle VD instead of trying to make their own app. They didn't listen 😔
Hi. I've have Virgin Hub5 router which is WiFi6. My Virtual Desktop shows that I'm getting 5Ghz network at 1200 Mbps. Would connecting a 6e router (such as the one you show) to this give me 2400 Mbps? Thanks.
Yes I have a WiFi 5 Virgin hub connected to the router he showed (AXE75) which is then plugged into my pc. I connect the quest to the WiFi 6e router 6ghz band and I can play at 2400mbps. I get 500mbit on Virtual Desktop.
@@BeamedAgain Excellent. Thanks for that. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Really? Wow I only have the option for up to 200 Mbps on my wifi 6 router. Interesting
I think your looking at the settings tab, you should be in the Streamer tab
Your Referral link limit has been reached already. I don't know why they would limit the audience they could reach, but it is what it is.
They've limited it to 3 now apparently, join my discord and head to the referral link thread 😉
i have a tplink archer AXE75 and my quest 3 cant see the 6ghz band i tried everything im on v66 my quest pro can see the 6ghz band and works perfect im not sure whats going on , does anyone have the same router and can see 6ghz normally on their quest 3?
I have this router, and my Q3 connects automatically at 6ghz and 2400mbps
@@MacInVR are you on v66?
@@MacInVR do u connect to airlink normally without re pairing evey time when u restart the headset?
No
I am now but I'm away from home atm
Referral link not working
Meta has changed the rules on referral links, join my discord for further help (link below).
my steam vr keeps buffering
Steam Link or via VD?
Why do you not answer people’s questions they are asking you?
I try to direct people to my discord where it's not just me answering. I get bombarded with questions & sometimes I can't keep up, sorry 😐
need help it wont install on my pc
It'll be your anti-virus probably, turn it off, install VD then turn it back on. Then check for interfering apps
@@MacInVR tryed turning off anti-virus did not work. and how do i check whats intering with it
How do i change the ip
Do have to have a pc
Your code only works for MAC users
Meta have changed the rules for sharing codes, you need to follow that person and the code can only be used 3 times 😳
@@MacInVR thanks 😊
It's only $10 for this? Wow. It cost my dad $50 to get VD in 1986.
The reason I don't use VD is because my PC is far away from the router, and even the very idea of having to connect it directly via an Ethernet cable is automatically a pain in the .ss factor.
During the video, I mention that you can use powerline adaptors. My office is in the garden, 20m away from my router so I used TP-Link powerline adaptors to get internet (and ethernet) to my PC 🖥
@@MacInVR Tried that, no good. Awful transfer speeds and latency. It's cable play for me or nothing.
There is no Virtual Desktop app in the meta store…
It's on the in-headset Quest store, search for Virtual Desktop
@@MacInVR yes, thank you. I never liked the meta software. Meta forced me to update a few days ago and now I cant play DCS. I thought the virtual desktop would be the solution but I guess you need to be wired to a router but Im not and cant. I tried steamvr but its no good. Maybe Ill try to revert meta back to its old drivers.
Okay, you're missing the point. A lot of my friends play DCS via Virtual Desktop. It's a wireless service that bypasses Meta link.
Go to the store on your Meta headset (in headset) search for virtual desktop, it costs about $19.99, download it, follow my tips, play DCS
Real just skip all of this if youre running and AMD card. Go wired, its the only way
I don't have experi3nce of AMD cards but for me, wireless freedom is the best way for me to play in VR 😉
says 2 easy step and then goes through all wiring jargons in a 10minute video
It's a setup video. You install VD in 2 easy steps, and then some advice about settings for beginners.
Love how all these videos are the same... They show you purchasing the app (for whatever reason), and then the settings... Nobody shows you how to actually launch games and play... smh...
Go to the games tab, click on the game 😉
slightly older vid so this might not be seen, but someone said the the dev is supportive, they arent
He is very supportive, use the VD discord for expert advice
@@MacInVR i did and got told to fuck off
SSW no longer causes shimmering in games. The recommendation to disable it is incorrect.
By making this incorrect recommendation, you are misleading people into losing half the fps they could otherwise achieve.
Having a second dedicated router is also an incorrect recommendation. Running two separate WiFi networks is a recipe for RFI. Instead, optimizing a single WiFi network is the best way to ensure optimal network performance.
The developer Guy Godin recommends using a dedicated router. It is well known within the community that this is the best option to optimise VD.
SSW is a personal choice, and it absolutely does not work with all games.
I've recently tried SSW with EA WRC & Contractors Showdown, it made the experience worse.
Yes, in the right circumstances, SSW is a great tool but that's all it is, a tool.
@@MacInVR - Guy Goodin & anyone else who recommends a separate dedicated wireless AP/router for PCVR is wrong. They make this recommendation because a) they aren’t network specialists themselves, b) most people are unwilling to expend any effort to learn enough about optimizing WiFi to do this correctly, & c) aren’t willing to spend the money to replace their existing WiFi network, if required.
Unfortunately, this leads to problems; most of the horror stories one reads about people who tried PCVR but had bad experiences can be traced to poor WiFi network configuration & performance.
What’s cheapest & easiest often isn’t best.
So...the guy who wrote the software, then used a totally separate OpenXR runtime (VDXR) doesn't know what he's talking about? Interesting 🤔
We obviously bow to your superior knowledge Roly, but if you listen to Mac's video, he clearly states that the settings he uses works for him.Those settings are may not be to everyone's system,and experimentation, with patience, is needed.
Unless you can come up with better ideas, I'm sticking with Mac
Mac's recommendation (imo) to not use SSW and adjust your settings accordingly for the best experience is the way to go. If it's incorrect then I am also 'misleading' people as I always suggest turning it off as it causes me to see shimmering in many games and also frame stutters (which I don't get when it is switched off).
Mac also states in the video
"These are MY best settings,
Use these as a base, and work out what's best for you"
Everyone has differing set ups and will all have different results.