Apologies to those folks who are getting shocked looking at the length!!! But you cannot talk about a civilisation in a one minute reel! ;)) Also who should we have over next for a Deshbhakt Samvaad?? Ideas welcome - but keep them real :)))
[1] No matter what you think of the colonial British, the British tried their best to negotiate reasonably transfer of power to the Indian subcontinent in 1946 through the Cabinet Mission Plan. Neither the INC nor the AIML accepted it till the end and the result was Partition of India. So, now, dont blame the British for the problems all the time. [2] India has to deal with two hostile neighbouring countries (Pakistan and China) and they are nuclearly armed as well. So, it makes zero sense to be subjugated to jingoism/patriotism/nationalism etc ideas coupled with religious intolerance. This is happening despite of globalisation. India has Arab Muslim influence on the West, Russian oligarchic influence at the North and Communist Chinese influence to the East. The closest democracy - Australia - is still far away. [3] If you are still facing the problems of poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, overpopulation, unhygienic conditions, corruption, etc then it's not worth tolerating the nonsense and better move elsewhere. [4] Why did Partition had to have happen in India only? Why didn't it happen to USA or Canada or Australia or New Zealand etc wherever at various timelines in history when UK decolonized (with the exception of the then Mandatory Palestine, and few other small areas)? There is something wrong with the whole Indian subcontinent mentality!
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?... Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
Hindus are trying to prove its a Hindu Civilization. SJ trying to prove its a Buddhist civilization. But none of them is right. It was a non Religious civilization.
@@ritikkhurana3350 so till tenth century ce all were Buddhist then when did brahmins came to India ok then ASI has said Gupta dynasty is Hindu dynasty mentioned in UNESCO please search Gupta Empire UNESCO in Google you will get answers if he is correct then why does Buddhist do yagya - yagyas in Japan
@@Sumit_Girhe vahi tou jis, civilization mei sacrifices hotei hou usei buddist civilization bata ta hei tou socho uski historical knowledge kya hogi budhdist mythology ko, use, karkei history batanei vhala ka naam science journey hei 🤣🤷♂️
Agar Guru Dronacharya jaisa ho to k6a usse bhi ashirwaad lena chahiye? Aisa Guru jisne apne shishy ka hi angutha katwa diya. Mere hisab se smman usi guru ka hona chahiye jo apne shishy ke bhawisya ki chinta kare or pakshpat na kare.
@@yahiyafirdous woo siksha uss guru ki jagir thi woo us siksha ko kisse dena hai kisse nahe woo tay karga. Usse chup kar dekh le sikh lena churana he hai.
Lots of Respect for Shri Devdutt Pattanaik's work.. JAYA and MY GITA are my favorites of his works ..his programme DEVLOK with Rasika Duggal was so popular during 2017-2018, i still remember him explaining every question of his viewers so patiently.... he presents an unbiased view, unbiased from Religion & Politics but based on Logic, Mythology understanding in terms of SYMBOLISM, not based on statues and fatalism..he tries his best to make us understand the SYMBOLIC meaning, the SYMBOLISM associated with Mythology ..not some romantic fairy tales, but the real facts, the underlying history..this combination is unique to Devdutt Sir and that is what makes it so much Interesting..
Lol, completely wrong! Why is india trying to make a claim over modern day Punjab? Harappan civilization is the north-west of modern day india - the punjab region which includes Indian Punjab, Pakistan Punjab, Kashmir, parts of balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ! The culture, the people were very different of the indus valley - "h!nd00s", actually those of Dravidian origin based in the valleys beyond the river Sindh coming from West to East! The trade route is known to go through this region connecting it to all the various countries beyond India going from modern day China to the West! Hence why it was and has been many Sikhs who were involved in trade! Something modern day Punjab is not allowed to do funnily enough! 🤔🤫🤭 The history of this region / place belongs to the Sikh people and those they inherited it from! Emperor Kanishka was from this region. Does Kanishka ring a bell? It should do - it was the name of Fligh AI182 that was b0mbed on a crossing from Canada to "India" as it entered British air space (orchestrated by the indian rogue regime / deep state, allegedly) but was subsequently, deliberately blamed on Sikh activists (Khalist@n!s who campaigned for secession/independence restoring the region with the freedoms it enjoyed for a very long time. It was slowly dissolved over time with the help of the british and "indian/bray0man!cal" elites who evolved their power over time taking advantage of rulers by plating the game of being servants, mystics whispering into ears looking to steal wealth/take control where they could! True kings/royals were destroyed/removed from power over time with the gaps being filled by great pretenders who to this day hide their secrets well! Modern day india is nothing like how it was. Even vedic texts talk about how this region is off limits to the indus valley people! Reason: people were aware of the tricks and games those at the top of the caste based system played! If you have ever heard of "the evil eye", 👁 its these pundits along with their scriptures, incantations and the political class that gave it meaning! Driven by a burning desire/a fire to tale what they could how ever they could! Day and night they would deviously make plans! The influx of so called "aryan" people included and actually was likely only "The Jatts"! Not a caste but a civilization, a people with noble roots, trust worthy, salt of tge earth type, righteous! Who originated from the northern regions of Iran extending up and across the region spanning regions of Afghanostan towards the caucases, Russia,Turkey and West ward towards egypt, northern iraq! Some may even say... well that may be too much for some, would not want anyones brain exploding metaphorically speaking! 🤯💥🤯 It is their blood lines that crossed with earlier people/civilization of this north-west region of modern day india! Evident more so in Kashmiri peoples (fair skin, light hair, light eyes). A distinct separate group in many ways from the europeans, the chinese and the people of indus valley (i.e. dravidians - the real people of india). Looking at comments on this posting Its interesting to see how a huge number of people suddenly become experts or reiterate what is said / presented in these kinds of podcasts to reinforce a narrative, often presenting India as this great race of people! It's as fake as a sprsy on sun tan! The likes + comments just seem overwhelming - like there is method to the madness? - 'not'!! Dare I say it... an attempt at presenting history in a different light to what actually was the case?! 🤔 Opinions, views are my own! No offense intended. If you got something to say please do so quoting your sources along with something confirming your argument! You will indeed be very hard pushed to find it! It eould becinteresting to know how this expert appeared? What his credentials are? Has he written any papers? Have they been peer reviewed by independent entities across the world? Please - substantiate your claims before making fools of people! They deserve better - at the very least - the truth! 🙏
@@BHOGVILAS279Gujarat’s Khambhat has 5,000-yr-old history of bead-making. It's still continuing. A craftsman from that place gifted me. One can buy also.
Indus valley civilization collapse ke lagbhag 500 saal baad Aryan aaye aur usne Vedas likhe (Vedic age shuru hua). Sabse pehle rigveda likha ushme hi jaati aur varna Hain. Fir baad me ye dusre Veda me bhi aaye. Rigveda Jati aur Varna ki shuruaat Hain.
One of the most illuminating and re-envisioning interpretive conversations ever. Thanks, Deshbhakt, for inviting Devdutt Pattanaik and venturing into this subject field.
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?... Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
नवबौद्ध का सांईस चैनल एक फर्जी है। हर त्यौहार हर चीज को बौद्ध बताने वाले नवबौद्ध समाज की सेवा नहीं कर रहे हैं। जैसे नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय के जलाने के लिया ब्राह्मण लोगों को जिम्मेदार बताने वाले यह नहीं जानते कि जब बख्तियार खिलजी भारत आया उससे पांच सौ वर्ष पूर्व ही बौद्ध धर्म के मानने वाले का शासन खत्म हो गया था और नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय सनातनी राजा ओ और सनातनी लोगों के दान से चल रहा था। सनातनी लोगों को अगर नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय जलाना होता तो पांच सौ साल की प्रतीक्षा नहीं करते। नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय कुमार गुप्त एक सनातनी राजा के द्वारा स्थापित विश्वविद्यालय था । किसी बौद्ध राजा ने नहीं बनवाया। पर नवबौद्ध में अपने आपको शूरमा दिखाने वाले लोग गलत बयानी करके नवबौद्ध लोगों का नुक़सान कर रहे हैं। एक वक्त आयेगा जब नवबौद लोगों को आरआरक्षण मिलना बंद भी हो सकता है। और यह समय की मांग भी है। आरआरक्षण के वल सनातन के लिए है।
@@ExMuslimVoiceBaton ki Jalebi banata hai aur mis information kahlata hai uska video aate hi ek Ek Din SJ sir RUclips per post karte hain aur usmein vah expose karte hain Ek post mein
@@Abhay6969 mai pahle Buddhism ko accha samjhta tha. Lekin science journey ki video dekhkar samajh gaya. Buddhism brahmn cast ke khilap paida hua mazhab hai. 1 islam yahudi ke khilap paida huaa. 2 Buddhism brahman ke khilap paida hua. science journey ka video dekhne se lagta hai.
😂😂😂 Accha? Science Journey ko Bol Neutral channel pe Sanatan Samiksha se debate karle Tera Science Journey tujhe Block kar dega or tu kabhi uski stream me zud na payega itna bada fattu hai SJ Naam ka Plumber 😂😂😂😂
@@WalletmoneyOnline ur comment shows ur intellectual prowess. State ur reason for disapproval. Just calling someone plumber etc doesn’t show anything but ur third class behavior.
Deshbhakt ji you must collab with Science Journey. Many comments are on Science Journey, because that is one channel where you will get all Truths with Facts and Proofs
What a well thought out take on the Harappan civilization by Devdutt Patnaik. He should be read and heard more around the World! All Indians should definitely listen to understand how the civilizations that exissted on the land where we live now thought, functioned and organized themselves. And hats off to Mr. Banerjee for the rest research on his questions.
Our arrogance and sense of entitlement boggles my mind sometimes. I think we both can agree documented knowledge doesn't have any monopoly in today's day and age. If its available to Devdutt, its available to you and its available to others. There are entire departments in the universities around the world in archeology, and mythology where people are working every day to study what you are talking about scientifically. A mythologist is NOT a scientist.
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?... Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
Yes, I think that The SCIENCE JOURNEY channel is doing a great job, he has a storehouse of revolutionary information on such issues. If even Akash Sir listens to Science Journey Channel, he will also be compelled to listen to that person.If his words reach people through such a big and great platform, then the revolution for which Science Journey is making great efforts and hard work is not far away. He should be given not just one but many opportunities to speak.Because his point cannot be completed in one episode. However, his own channel is also progressing a lot and will continue to grow. We are with him and wish him all the best.
Indus valley civilisation के लोग बुद्धिज़्म और जैन कल्चर को फॉलो करते थे।(Only culture not religion) आर्यन (घोड़े रथ वाले) eurasia के बाद पहले (oxus civilization) मे आकर बसे थे। हड़प्पा संस्कृति के लोग अपनी खेती को बचाने के लिए पुल बांध कर रखते थे। आर्यन उनपर पर आक्रमण करते रहते थे और उनके पुल तोड़कर उनकी खेती और व्यापार खराब कर देते थे। पुलों को इंद्र के द्वारा तोड़ने का जिक्र ragveda में मिलता है। धीरे धीरे नॉन आर्यन अपने नगर घर छोड़कर जाने लगे। कई पीढ़ी बाद उत्तर भारत (कुरुक्षेत्र) में आर्यों और नॉन आर्यों के बीच युद्ध हुआ था। फिर वैदिक काल का आरम्भ हुआ। Indus valley civilization की औरतों से शादी करके आर्यों ने अपने घर कुनबे बसा लिए। (new breed indus valley civilisation+ Aryan dna)और गैर आर्यों (only indus valley civilisation dna) को साउथ और जंगलों की तरफ भगा दिया। आर्य मांस खाते थे, घोड़े चलाते थे और हवन करते थे। उनको खेती नहीं आती थी। धीरे धीरे खेती और पशु पालन सीख लिया। कुछ पीढ़ियों बाद इन्हीं में से ब्राह्मण बने और समाज को वर्ण व्यवस्था में बांटने लगे । सबसे पहला वर्ण शूद्र बना जो कि pure indus valley civilisation के लोग थे।( new culture introduced brahminisim which includes temple worshipping). Jat caste people are truly those Aryans (today's farmers of Punjab Haryana). All other castes bhraman, khatri, gujjar, yadav,जाटव, bishnoi etc are Derived from Jat Aryans. Jat पहले Aryan culture ( जिसमें सिर्फ यज्ञ करते हैं) फॉलो करते थे। वर्ण व्यवस्था से बचने के लिए ही कुछ jaat सिख बन गए थे। Jaat community के लोग आर्यन होते हुए भी खेती से जुड़े रहने की वजह से गरीब रह गए। कुछ jat गरीब होने की वजह से lower cast me bhi aate Hain। Budhisim, Jainism, brahaminism, Aryan इन four culture ko mix करके हिंदू धर्म बना हैं जोकि मुगलों और अंग्रेजों के समय बना है और नया है। ब्राह्मण ने हर state में हर नस्ल के लोग ब्राह्मण बना दिए ताकि ये सबका शोषण करते रहे।ब्राह्मण कभी histoy को लेके सच नही बोल सकते क्योंकि इन्होंने सभी जातियों का शोषण किया है।
Indus valley civilisation के लोग बुद्धिज़्म और जैन कल्चर को फॉलो करते थे।(Only culture not religion) आर्यन (घोड़े रथ वाले) eurasia के बाद पहले (oxus civilization) मे आकर बसे थे। हड़प्पा संस्कृति के लोग अपनी खेती को बचाने के लिए पुल बांध कर रखते थे। आर्यन उनपर पर आक्रमण करते रहते थे और उनके पुल तोड़कर उनकी खेती और व्यापार खराब कर देते थे। पुलों को इंद्र के द्वारा तोड़ने का जिक्र ragveda में मिलता है। धीरे धीरे नॉन आर्यन अपने नगर घर छोड़कर जाने लगे। कई पीढ़ी बाद उत्तर भारत (कुरुक्षेत्र) में आर्यों और नॉन आर्यों के बीच युद्ध हुआ था। फिर वैदिक काल का आरम्भ हुआ। Indus valley civilization की औरतों से शादी करके आर्यों ने अपने घर कुनबे बसा लिए। (new breed indus valley civilisation+ Aryan dna)और गैर आर्यों (only indus valley civilisation dna) को साउथ और जंगलों की तरफ भगा दिया। आर्य मांस खाते थे, घोड़े चलाते थे और हवन करते थे। उनको खेती नहीं आती थी। धीरे धीरे खेती और पशु पालन सीख लिया। कुछ पीढ़ियों बाद इन्हीं में से ब्राह्मण बने और समाज को वर्ण व्यवस्था में बांटने लगे । सबसे पहला वर्ण शूद्र बना जो कि pure indus valley civilisation के लोग थे।( new culture introduced brahminisim which includes temple worshipping). Jat caste people are truly those Aryans (today's farmers of Punjab Haryana). All other castes bhraman, khatri, gujjar, yadav,जाटव, bishnoi etc are Derived from Jat Aryans. Jat पहले Aryan culture ( जिसमें सिर्फ यज्ञ करते हैं) फॉलो करते थे। वर्ण व्यवस्था से बचने के लिए ही कुछ jaat सिख बन गए थे। Jaat community के लोग आर्यन होते हुए भी खेती से जुड़े रहने की वजह से गरीब रह गए। कुछ jat गरीब होने की वजह से lower cast me bhi aate Hain। Budhisim, Jainism, brahaminism, Aryan इन four culture ko mix करके हिंदू धर्म बना हैं जोकि मुगलों और अंग्रेजों के समय बना है और नया है। ब्राह्मण ने हर state में हर नस्ल के लोग ब्राह्मण बना दिए ताकि ये सबका शोषण करते रहे। लेकिन real jaat Aryan सिर्फ पंजाब हरियाणा वाले area में ही होते हैं।ब्राह्मण कभी histoy को लेके सच नही बोल सकते क्योंकि इन्होंने सभी जातियों का शोषण किया है।
Wow!! this was one hell of a podcast. There were lots of things that I personally didn't know about Harappa Civilizations. Please get another podcast with Devdutt Pattanaik. 👏🙏✌
Jab vi aisa comment pad rahi hoon- discuss with proper historians, i remember Mr. Praveen Mohan, his subscribers and followers who regularly comment that 'aap hi true historian ho'🙏
Would love to listen to Devdutt patnaik all day long. Lots of respect for your knowledge. Makes me proud as an Indian listening to your actual facts about our forefathers
Devdatt is right. We are a trading civilization. Even the words in English economics have origins in Kannada. Eg. *Market comes from Maru Katte (Seller's steps) *Asset from Aasti *Cash from Kaasu
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?... Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
@@RaviKumar-um5qd Brahman aur kashtriya ko bhi kuch aise hi naamo se pukarte ho tum log 😅 Lekin koi baat nai tumare pattan ka yehi Karan hai doosron ke prati dwesh tabhi tum log 5000 se tarakki nai kar sake😅
Wait for the exploration of the yet undiscovered ancient archaeological sites across the Indian continent. We need those missing links of alphabets which would help us decipher the intriguing Harrappan texts
@@GuruprasadMKoundinyaBro log ne Dharm parivartit करते रहते थे history में अशोक हिन्दू to बुद्ध,चंद्रगुप्त 2 हिन्दू to जैन, अकबर अलग ही दिन ए इलाही etc बहुत हुए
@@प्रेमcosmos are yrr guptas ne vidisha mein udaigiri ki caves bnayi hai varah avatar ke liye Bhitrigaon mandir jo Krishan ji ka hai vo Gupta ne banaya hai Bas ek Gupta emperor Kumar gupta 1 tha jisne nalanda University bnwayi Sayad vo Raha vo Buddhist but uske forefathers aur uske baad ke rulers ke bhi hindu mandir bnwane ke jyada evidence milte hai
Fantastic bhai... Listened to the whole interaction in one go.... Although I've become a bad reader, I'm going to buy this book to know more. Also, I still collect books even if I'm not reading... Sad but true... Hope to correct my ways this year and read my lovely books.
This is the best explanation I saw on the end of Harappa civilization. As you said it was developed by traders to trade with Mesopotamian civilization. I also agree with you the Aryans came to India after 500 years afterHarappa civilization ended. You also mentioned alphabets ta,da,dha non existence in Iranian language and it is a byproduct of Indo-Aryan children incorporated those sounds into Sanskrit. This clearly indicates Vedas were written in 1000BCE. Another interesting point you raised is the roots of Sanatana dharma goes back to Harappan civilization and later incorporated many Buddhist, Jain and Vedic culture practices. You did not go further to discuss the creation of Brahmanism, Manusmruti and untouchability. Under Ashoka. Buddhism wiped out the Vedic culture, and the Pushyamitra Sunga killed the last Mauryan emperor and started to bring back Vedic/Brahmin/Sanskrit culture. It took 400 years to replace the Buddhism by Vedic Brahmsnism and wrote Manusmruti to codify Brahmin domination. They put limits to not to deviate the birth profession and put fear to go hell if broken. People who opposed it were called untouchables and outcasted them. Today RSS, BJP is following Pushya Mitra Sunga legacy and wanted to rule under their Hindi/Brahamin rule. This will not sustain, and India could break like Soviet Union into multiple countries. I hope you shed more light on these matters in your future topics! Madhu K. Reddy
They all are trying to manipulate history... I'm unable to understand that why they just can't let the things be as they really are... Always try to manipulate, deviate the facts.
Thankyou! The host started with too much energy that shocked me. But in the middle he manages his energy. But thank you so much for bringing devdutt ji. Love this topic.
One quick question,, DDP sir, If Hindu deities Rama, Sita, Hanuman, Krishna , Radha and notable personalities of the epics like Karna, Arjuna, Drona, Bhishma really existed, then why were their names not emulated on kings of ancient India ( im referring to era between 500 B.C to 500 A.D). However we see their names emulated in later kings, (post 1000 AD)
@@aftabumar8240 You are wrong. There are numerous seals and iconography of Hindu deities from 500 BC onwards found in modern day Afghanistan to even Cambodia and Indonesia. But it doesn’t verify whether they really existed or not.
@@ExMuslimaFahidamythology ka matlab pta hai?😂 Thats nt ur ancient history. Mahabhart ramayan are called as mythology for a reason. Tumse apni quran toh padi nhi gyi theek se😂 ab hindu hone ka dhong kr lo bs.
Very interesting interview with Devdutt Patnaik. I've been following many of his interviews and newspaper articles. He is a charming and witty person with a treasure trove of information, intertwined with both some facts and some fiction, woven skillfully like a master story-teller. Devdutt, in my opinion is the Indian counterpart to Dan Brown, the author of several highly entertaining bestsellers, both mixed with a dollop of fact and interwoven with entertaining fiction. After all, he is a "mythologist". He specialises in the study of "Storytelling", of which all religions are based upon. But it is fascinating to listen to Dr. Devdutt Patnaik!
Therevis a tribe called Gond or koya near chatisgad, Nagpur. They have much resbling language and culture with harrappa. Mr. Late Motirawen kankali from this tribe red mohenjodaro sript successfully. There is lot of information about his work on you tube
A very interesting discussion On our ancient culture and traditions and lots light has been shed on our thought process on which we interpret /misinterpret the societal structure-and the part it played on-our historical past . Thank you for this very important and discussion.
Made up? Lol, completely wrong! Why is india trying to make a claim over modern day Punjab? Harappan civilization is the north-west of modern day india - the punjab region which includes Indian Punjab, Pakistan Punjab, Kashmir, parts of balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ! The culture, the people were very different of the indus valley - "h!nd00s", actually those of Dravidian origin based in the valleys beyond the river Sindh coming from West to East! The trade route is known to go through this region connecting it to all the various countries beyond India going from modern day China to the West! Hence why it was and has been many Sikhs who were involved in trade! Something modern day Punjab is not allowed to do funnily enough! 🤔🤫🤭 The history of this region / place belongs to the Sikh people and those they inherited it from! Emperor Kanishka was from this region. Does Kanishka ring a bell? It should do - it was the name of Fligh AI182 that was b0mbed on a crossing from Canada to "India" as it entered British air space (orchestrated by the indian rogue regime / deep state, allegedly) but was subsequently, deliberately blamed on Sikh activists (Khalist@n!s who campaigned for secession/independence restoring the region with the freedoms it enjoyed for a very long time. It was slowly dissolved over time with the help of the british and "indian/bray0man!cal" elites who evolved their power over time taking advantage of rulers by plating the game of being servants, mystics whispering into ears looking to steal wealth/take control where they could! True kings/royals were destroyed/removed from power over time with the gaps being filled by great pretenders who to this day hide their secrets well! Modern day india is nothing like how it was. Even vedic texts talk about how this region is off limits to the indus valley people! Reason: people were aware of the tricks and games those at the top of the caste based system played! If you have ever heard of "the evil eye", 👁 its these pundits along with their scriptures, incantations and the political class that gave it meaning! Driven by a burning desire/a fire to tale what they could how ever they could! Day and night they would deviously make plans! The influx of so called "aryan" people included and actually was likely only "The Jatts"! Not a caste but a civilization, a people with noble roots, trust worthy, salt of tge earth type, righteous! Who originated from the northern regions of Iran extending up and across the region spanning regions of Afghanostan towards the caucases, Russia,Turkey and West ward towards egypt, northern iraq! Some may even say... well that may be too much for some, would not want anyones brain exploding metaphorically speaking! 🤯💥🤯 It is their blood lines that crossed with earlier people/civilization of this north-west region of modern day india! Evident more so in Kashmiri peoples (fair skin, light hair, light eyes). A distinct separate group in many ways from the europeans, the chinese and the people of indus valley (i.e. dravidians - the real people of india). Looking at comments on this posting Its interesting to see how a huge number of people suddenly become experts or reiterate what is said / presented in these kinds of podcasts to reinforce a narrative, often presenting India as this great race of people! It's as fake as a sprsy on sun tan! The likes + comments just seem overwhelming - like there is method to the madness? - 'not'!! Dare I say it... an attempt at presenting history in a different light to what actually was the case?! 🤔 Opinions, views are my own! No offense intended. If you got something to say please do so quoting your sources along with something confirming your argument! You will indeed be very hard pushed to find it! It eould becinteresting to know how this expert appeared? What his credentials are? Has he written any papers? Have they been peer reviewed by independent entities across the world? Please - substantiate your claims before making fools of people! They deserve better - at the very least - the truth! 🙏
One thing I've never fully understood is this: if we Indians are descendants of the people of the Harappan civilization, then where did our sense of civic advancement go? The Harappans had highly sophisticated urban planning, sanitation systems, and public infrastructure. Over the span of 4,000 years, shouldn't we have evolved into a more modern society with similar advancements? Yet, even today, we still struggle with basic sanitation issues. Compare this to the Roman Empire, which, despite its fall, left behind enduring legacies in architecture, governance, and infrastructure-clear evidence of a civilization that not only evolved but also left lasting contributions. It makes me wonder how a civilization that was once so advanced could seem to have diminished in some aspects while others, like the Romans, progressed and adapted over time.
I think something bad happened here (famine, pandemic, invasion). No one will know because there is no documentation of harappa in history written by people. we only found out about this civilization after finding archaelogical remains by digging. Only some might have managed to move to other places. That is the reason all the advancements died down. We dont even know what langauge they wrote and spoke!
i think it should be linked with that scriptures that was burned by the mughal invaders and also the invasion of india time over time by british, afgans and mughals
Bro we were busy 800 years fighting with invasion and then Brits. Civic sense and other stuff at that time took a back turn. But even if you compare medieval Indians to medieval Europeans, medieval Indians were way more hygienic. Indians used to bath daily, while west was living like bathing was a luxury.
Andhbakhts take- 800 years of invasion destroyed 5000 years of civilization!!?? Need to analyze what they did wrong. Maybe the kings or queens in the holybooks were busy fighting eachother, imposing caste system, color racism and eventually destroying and corrupting everything.
very facinating....as a Pakistani follower of your channel i really appretiate your effort in high lighting our shared history and our shared ancestory.
@@sb-bw4lp Pakistanis are related to Indus Valley, meanwhile our Haryana, some parts of Rajasthan and Gujarat are later Harappan zones. They're more Indian than us, but don't know that.
We should only read books from Gandhi family- only true source of history discovery of India Now great RG is taking India forward, whole civilisation owns a debt to G family Hope this makes you happy
Before I use to listen this self proclaimed 'historian , spiritual teacher ' but slowly i realised he is just cooking up things and serving them with glamour .....
@@teach-mint4141 it's a community on RUclips where people from all religion talk on rational issues. Ex-Muslims don't dare to talk on Hindu topics as their audience comes for Muslim bashing, rational world(science journey) talks on just every religion exposing them.
@@Karankashyap45 he never forces anyone. Buddhism is not a religion unlike Hinduism. It has no rituals, no drama, nothing. I think you didn't watch much of his videos.
एक भारतीय खासकर हिंदू भारतीय कभी भी देश का असली इतिहास नहीं ला सकता हैं क्योंकि वह मान ही नहीं सकता कि हिंदू धर्म के अलावा कुछ हो सकता है हिंदुस्तान में और वह उसी को आधार बनाकर अपने विचारधारा के आधार पर खोज तथा निष्कर्ष निकलता है।
@@manishkumarkhatkariya2456 usi ki baat Kiya he devdatt patnayak ji ne , 1)Bengals sindhur is a continuation of harrappa , 2) veda are the memories of harrappa (not a foreign document) 3) harrappa may be a baniya samaj civilization 4) harrappa may have cast system Half human half animals may be a goddess and we may see a develop version in Hinduism ( sheravali ) Or south temple architecture were multi animals are see in single statue
@@ishwardere1855U slightly misunderstood his take on pashupati image. He is clearly saying, we don't know whether that image represents lord Shiva or just a normal person. People blinded by religion will always look at things from their religious angle and so pseudo religious people distort history.
@@Ram_Mohammad_Singh_Adam Biases are everywhere Mr. Ram Mohan Singh ji. Take you for an example. You have a bias against Hindu religious people. So you will have your perspective everything against Hinduism. At least a religious person is having bias for his faith not against someone else's faith like you. Try to have this bias against Islam and have that perspective as well. I bet you don't have the balls to have that bias. Just try to have that bias for once, you will feel World can get rid of a lot of Cancerous thoughts which is unfortunately increasing every day.
@@malyajlikhar5605 I didn't say anything against any particular religion. I said about every religious people. A hindu thinks his religion is the best, a Christian thinks his religion is the best, a muslim thinks his religion is the best and I think all are equally blinded 😐
सर ! मोहन जोदड़ो हड़प्पा में तो बौद्ध स्तूप के अवशेष भी मिले हैं | यही नहीं गौतम बुद्ध के वेश~ भूषा यानी कपड़े पहनावा वाले ही एक मूर्ति भी मिली है | इसका मतलब वहां प्राचीन बौद्ध धर्म और संस्कृति ही थी | ❤❤❤
@@foxieram kahi ki eent, kahi ka roda, Bhanumati ne kunba joda. 😃 Bas yahi hisab India ke budh logo ka ka bhi ha 😂 Pata kuch hota nahi ha, whatsApp university se phd karne me lage hue ha sb ke sb. 😂 Gautam budh sirf ek hi hue ha bhai aaj tak , unke shishyo ne hi aage chalkar bodh dharm banaya. Jo tm 27 budh bata rahe ho wo budh nahi balki Jain dharm ke teerthankar hue ha 28 , Teerthankar mahaveer jee 28 th teerthankar the jain logo me. Lekin tm logo ne ab bodh Or jain dharm ko bhi mix karke rakh diya ha.
Very good interview! We need textbooks and lectures sharing balanced views from cultural perspectives that inspire more inquiry an excite the mind, instead of political agenda oriented arrogance pontification that blinds and stops critical thinking.
Great podcast and felt like we are in a masterpiece lecture on Indus valley civilization. If we see history from a religious angle, we would only end up with hatred or radicalism. We should see it from academic POV to understand the economy, society, religion and culture of its time.
Apologies to those folks who are getting shocked looking at the length!!! But you cannot talk about a civilisation in a one minute reel! ;))
Also who should we have over next for a Deshbhakt Samvaad?? Ideas welcome - but keep them real :)))
[1]
No matter what you think of the colonial British, the British tried their best to negotiate reasonably transfer of power to the Indian subcontinent in 1946 through the Cabinet Mission Plan. Neither the INC nor the AIML accepted it till the end and the result was Partition of India. So, now, dont blame the British for the problems all the time.
[2]
India has to deal with two hostile neighbouring countries (Pakistan and China) and they are nuclearly armed as well. So, it makes zero sense to be subjugated to jingoism/patriotism/nationalism etc ideas coupled with religious intolerance. This is happening despite of globalisation. India has Arab Muslim influence on the West, Russian oligarchic influence at the North and Communist Chinese influence to the East. The closest democracy - Australia - is still far away.
[3]
If you are still facing the problems of poverty, unemployment, illiteracy, overpopulation, unhygienic conditions, corruption, etc then it's not worth tolerating the nonsense and better move elsewhere.
[4] Why did Partition had to have happen in India only? Why didn't it happen to USA or Canada or Australia or New Zealand etc wherever at various timelines in history when UK decolonized (with the exception of the then Mandatory Palestine, and few other small areas)?
There is something wrong with the whole Indian subcontinent mentality!
Put time stamps
@@thedeshbhakt I just love it. A fruitful and rich discussion was much required. Nobody else covered this topic in that much detail. Thank you.
We want more history related podcasts
If possible bring Sashi Tharoor please.
loved it. From Pakistan. We are all children of harappa valley. I wish we could read their language.
@@sefora805 we North Indians are Children of aryans.
I thought you are from arab
Bkl tum log hybrid hoh persian,red indian and aryans ka . bewkuf@@gurdyalsingh5308
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?...
Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
@@gurdyalsingh5308 The word is "Ariya" in Pali its a Buddhist word to describe 4 ariya truths of Buddha, when did it become a Race ? Gappu!
Only science journey sir will unveil the truth about ancient civilization n mythology, we will only trust Science journey sir🙏.
@@social4967 science journey is god of History
I Agree
Agreed
Bewkoof hai wo.
I agree
Science journey ( SJ) को जानने वाले हाजिरी लगाओ💐
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Sanatan samiksha bhi hai
Damn wasn't expected this .
Kudos to sj research and knowledge
Hindus are trying to prove its a Hindu Civilization. SJ trying to prove its a Buddhist civilization. But none of them is right. It was a non Religious civilization.
Jalwa hai SJ sir ka yha🙏🙏
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@@Pakhand-Ka-Pardafash 😂😂😂😂 gadha journey
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@@Pakhand-Ka-Pardafash नीली साइंस जर्नी
सनातन समीक्षा से क्यू डरता हे झंडू जर्नी 🤣🤣🤣
@@Pakhand-Ka-Pardafash OMG comments
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kyo science journey guptas ko buddhist bolta hai par UNESCO ne Guptas ko hindu bola hai dekh science journey ko mene pel diya hai 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@GuruprasadMKoundinya Tumhari Kya aukaat hai 😂
@@manishmaurya3701 tera sj ka aukat kya hai to tera sj ko jake bolna ki vo supreme court me apne baat ko sabeet karne ko 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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YH HUI NA BAAT ,,,,ENKE BRAHMNICAL PROPAGANGA KI DAJJIYA UDANE WALA SC ST OBC KA LION SCIENCE JOURNEY
Baised hai bhaii
Just a small advice... Use some animations/pictures to visualise such topics..... Great podcast no doubt
nice advice
True it will make the videos more interesting and engaging
Ullu log
No need.. No body is child who need picture books
@@mairathorn3331 this topic is important for children as well so to understand in a simpler way....
Only Science journey provides information about real history of India
Edit: so many likes, thanks everyone 😊😊
@@max-cs9ko But I highly doubt he will be called upon this platform... It would be too brutal even for Deshbhakt's audience.
@@max-cs9ko sanatan samiksha uska papa ko sun le 😃
@@New1BGMIsanatan samiksha search krlo baar history pata chal jayega
That's why he don't go to any Institution to verifie them😂😂
Sanatan samiksha 🔥🔥
Science Journey God of Indian History 🙏
bevkoof journey ASI ko gali deta hai tum jaise sc st log usko vishwas karte hai
@@GuruprasadMKoundinya we dont trust him blindly he made valid claims
@@ritikkhurana3350 so till tenth century ce all were Buddhist then when did brahmins came to India ok then ASI has said Gupta dynasty is Hindu dynasty mentioned in UNESCO please search Gupta Empire UNESCO in Google you will get answers if he is correct then why does Buddhist do yagya - yagyas in Japan
@@GuruprasadMKoundinya mein general category ka hu , rajput hu bhai , history ka student hu , history ki samjh hai mujhe,
@@mysterysolved3229 to kya hindu ka koi evidence nahi hai kya history me
Science journey sir enters the chat 🗿🦍👑🇮🇳
he is very biased and and every time he twist the questions
@@cricketshorts4603 Why don't you debate, He will destroy all the myths with facts and that too with proof. You need to have guts to hear him.
@@amitrouth3173 his facts are distorted, every time he put blame on brahmins
@@cricketshorts4603 for eg ?
@@cricketshorts4603 Which is again a fact.
Only science journey sir can say real history with fact
Absolutely
🤣 lmao science journey lol
Yes bro
Haha uske hisaab se to Indus valley civilization bhi Gautam buddh ne banayi thi lol
@@Sumit_Girhe vahi tou jis, civilization mei sacrifices hotei hou usei buddist civilization bata ta hei tou socho uski historical knowledge kya hogi budhdist mythology ko, use, karkei history batanei vhala ka naam science journey hei 🤣🤷♂️
*शिक्षा से बड़ा कोई ज्ञान नहीं और गुरू से आशीर्वाद मिले इससे बड़ा कोई सम्मान नहीं!!! Love you Sir* 🔥🔥💯💯😢❤😢
Agar Guru Dronacharya jaisa ho to k6a usse bhi ashirwaad lena chahiye? Aisa Guru jisne apne shishy ka hi angutha katwa diya. Mere hisab se smman usi guru ka hona chahiye jo apne shishy ke bhawisya ki chinta kare or pakshpat na kare.
@@yahiyafirdous eklavya dronacharya ka shisya tha hi nahe usne wo siksha churai thi.
He is best . Just doesnt have proofs , still he is the best blind man.
@@KumarHarshRaj
Wah Siksha jaise kisi ki jagir hai, jise Aklavya ne chura liya tha. Yaar kaha kaha se tum log ate ho.
@@yahiyafirdous woo siksha uss guru ki jagir thi woo us siksha ko kisse dena hai kisse nahe woo tay karga.
Usse chup kar dekh le sikh lena churana he hai.
Lots of Respect for Shri Devdutt Pattanaik's work.. JAYA and MY GITA are my favorites of his works ..his programme DEVLOK with Rasika Duggal was so popular during 2017-2018, i still remember him explaining every question of his viewers so patiently.... he presents an unbiased view, unbiased from Religion & Politics but based on Logic, Mythology understanding in terms of SYMBOLISM, not based on statues and fatalism..he tries his best to make us understand the SYMBOLIC meaning, the SYMBOLISM associated with Mythology ..not some romantic fairy tales, but the real facts, the underlying history..this combination is unique to Devdutt Sir and that is what makes it so much Interesting..
@@rajivb9493 he is gaalibaaz. When anyone questions his opinion he uses abusive language in social media.
Lol, completely wrong! Why is india trying to make a claim over modern day Punjab? Harappan civilization is the north-west of modern day india - the punjab region which includes Indian Punjab, Pakistan Punjab, Kashmir, parts of balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ! The culture, the people were very different of the indus valley - "h!nd00s", actually those of Dravidian origin based in the valleys beyond the river Sindh coming from West to East!
The trade route is known to go through this region connecting it to all the various countries beyond India going from modern day China to the West! Hence why it was and has been many Sikhs who were involved in trade! Something modern day Punjab is not allowed to do funnily enough! 🤔🤫🤭
The history of this region / place belongs to the Sikh people and those they inherited it from! Emperor Kanishka was from this region. Does Kanishka ring a bell? It should do - it was the name of Fligh AI182 that was b0mbed on a crossing from Canada to "India" as it entered British air space (orchestrated by the indian rogue regime / deep state, allegedly) but was subsequently, deliberately blamed on Sikh activists (Khalist@n!s who campaigned for secession/independence restoring the region with the freedoms it enjoyed for a very long time. It was slowly dissolved over time with the help of the british and "indian/bray0man!cal" elites who evolved their power over time taking advantage of rulers by plating the game of being servants, mystics whispering into ears looking to steal wealth/take control where they could! True kings/royals were destroyed/removed from power over time with the gaps being filled by great pretenders who to this day hide their secrets well!
Modern day india is nothing like how it was. Even vedic texts talk about how this region is off limits to the indus valley people! Reason: people were aware of the tricks and games those at the top of the caste based system played! If you have ever heard of "the evil eye", 👁 its these pundits along with their scriptures, incantations and the political class that gave it meaning! Driven by a burning desire/a fire to tale what they could how ever they could! Day and night they would deviously make plans!
The influx of so called "aryan" people included and actually was likely only "The Jatts"! Not a caste but a civilization, a people with noble roots, trust worthy, salt of tge earth type, righteous! Who originated from the northern regions of Iran extending up and across the region spanning regions of Afghanostan towards the caucases, Russia,Turkey and West ward towards egypt, northern iraq! Some may even say... well that may be too much for some, would not want anyones brain exploding metaphorically speaking! 🤯💥🤯
It is their blood lines that crossed with earlier people/civilization of this north-west region of modern day india! Evident more so in Kashmiri peoples (fair skin, light hair, light eyes). A distinct separate group in many ways from the europeans, the chinese and the people of indus valley (i.e. dravidians - the real people of india).
Looking at comments on this posting Its interesting to see how a huge number of people suddenly become experts or reiterate what is said / presented in these kinds of podcasts to reinforce a narrative, often presenting India as this great race of people! It's as fake as a sprsy on sun tan! The likes + comments just seem overwhelming - like there is method to the madness? - 'not'!! Dare I say it... an attempt at presenting history in a different light to what actually was the case?! 🤔
Opinions, views are my own! No offense intended. If you got something to say please do so quoting your sources along with something confirming your argument! You will indeed be very hard pushed to find it!
It eould becinteresting to know how this expert appeared? What his credentials are? Has he written any papers? Have they been peer reviewed by independent entities across the world?
Please - substantiate your claims before making fools of people! They deserve better - at the very least - the truth! 🙏
SJ sir on the top ❤
Sj नंगा हुआ नंगा कितनी देर zhut पेलेगा😂😂😂😂Bharath rao/ यानदनदेवम् अमेरिकन ऑर्कियोलॉजिस्ट डिकोड सिंधु लिपि 90% वर्क कंप्लीट एंड क्लेम , ओपन पॉडकास्ट इन इंग्लिश
जय सनातन❤❤❤❤❤ अमर अकबर एंथोनी सबका बाप। किशनलाल hi निकला ।
सत्य सनातन +संस्कृत जिंदाबाद ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
As an archaeological excavator, I worked in Gujarat, and I have ornaments of lapis lazuli and carnelian in my collection. I always cherish those
So, are those limited to Afghanistan or we have them in our soils too?
How do u own? It's govt property? Did u syphon it?
@@abc_cba only afganistan
"in my collection" why do you mean by this? Are you keeping them personally?
@@BHOGVILAS279Gujarat’s Khambhat has 5,000-yr-old history of bead-making. It's still continuing. A craftsman from that place gifted me. One can buy also.
वर्ण व्यवस्था ने एक बहुत बड़े समूह को व्यापार करने से वंचित रखा। जिसका फायदा बनियों को मिला। ओर भारत पीछे ओर गुलाम रहा।
अबे मुर्ख सारे लागू उद्योग शूद्र के पास थे
Indus valley civilization collapse ke lagbhag 500 saal baad Aryan aaye aur usne Vedas likhe (Vedic age shuru hua). Sabse pehle rigveda likha ushme hi jaati aur varna Hain. Fir baad me ye dusre Veda me bhi aaye. Rigveda Jati aur Varna ki shuruaat Hain.
It’s a blessing we still have people like devdutt 🙏🏻
Amazing. The most grounded talk on this subject so far !
One of the most illuminating and re-envisioning interpretive conversations ever. Thanks, Deshbhakt, for inviting Devdutt Pattanaik and venturing into this subject field.
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@@subhajitdutta8 kyu bhai teri maaa ki yaad aa gyi tujhe 😂😂
@@Shraman.7tumhare naye baap SJ ki yaad ayi, kal mere yaha nali saaf krne aya tha 😂
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?...
Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
नवबौद्ध का सांईस चैनल एक फर्जी है।
हर त्यौहार हर चीज को बौद्ध बताने वाले नवबौद्ध समाज की सेवा नहीं कर रहे हैं।
जैसे नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय के जलाने के लिया ब्राह्मण लोगों को जिम्मेदार बताने वाले यह नहीं जानते कि जब बख्तियार खिलजी भारत आया उससे पांच सौ वर्ष पूर्व ही बौद्ध धर्म के मानने वाले का शासन खत्म हो गया था और नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय सनातनी राजा ओ और सनातनी लोगों के दान से चल रहा था।
सनातनी लोगों को अगर नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय जलाना होता तो पांच सौ साल की प्रतीक्षा नहीं करते।
नालन्दा विश्वविद्यालय कुमार गुप्त एक सनातनी राजा के द्वारा स्थापित विश्वविद्यालय था । किसी बौद्ध राजा ने नहीं बनवाया।
पर नवबौद्ध में अपने आपको शूरमा दिखाने वाले लोग गलत बयानी करके नवबौद्ध लोगों का नुक़सान कर रहे हैं।
एक वक्त आयेगा जब नवबौद लोगों को आरआरक्षण मिलना बंद भी हो सकता है।
और यह समय की मांग भी है।
आरआरक्षण के वल सनातन के लिए है।
Science journey channel....❤❤❤❤❤
Science journey ek buddhist propaganda yt chennal hai.
Buddhist nahi hai bhai bheemta propaganda hai @@ExMuslimVoice
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@@Abhay6969 agar tera buddh tumko genral cast hindu se nafrat karna sikhata hai. To tera buddhism bhi islam jaisa insaniyat ke khilap.
@@Abhay6969 mai pahle Buddhism ko accha samjhta tha. Lekin science journey ki video dekhkar samajh gaya. Buddhism brahmn cast ke khilap paida hua mazhab hai.
1 islam yahudi ke khilap paida huaa.
2 Buddhism brahman ke khilap paida hua. science journey ka video dekhne se lagta hai.
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What a well thought out take on the Harappan civilization by Devdutt Patnaik. He should be read and heard more around the World! All Indians should definitely listen to understand how the civilizations that exissted on the land where we live now thought, functioned and organized themselves. And hats off to Mr. Banerjee for the rest research on his questions.
Everything this is fictional bro ramayan and Mahabharata and everything is fictional
@@AmanChoudhary-vc5klabsolutely bro dinasaurs were fictional too, so is Jesus and other gods. only humans are reality...
Asurdutt is an lDlOT of the highest order
He is asurdhurt khalnayak
Our arrogance and sense of entitlement boggles my mind sometimes. I think we both can agree documented knowledge doesn't have any monopoly in today's day and age. If its available to Devdutt, its available to you and its available to others. There are entire departments in the universities around the world in archeology, and mythology where people are working every day to study what you are talking about scientifically. A mythologist is NOT a scientist.
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Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?...
Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
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Amazing conversation!! History made easy by Devdutt
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Devdutt Pattanayak ji ko sunana bahut achha lagta hai. Inka research & analysis lajawab hai. Shukriya aapne inko bulaya aur humlogon ke samne ek alag nazariya rakha.
Super enriching. The way you guided the conversation without interrupting is massively commendable. Let's have more episodes like this 👏👏👏
Was least interested at first and couldn't skip for a minute once played. Great discussion. Super informative, unlike neta veta type baat 😉🙌🏼
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Yes, I think that The SCIENCE JOURNEY channel is doing a great job, he has a storehouse of revolutionary information on such issues. If even Akash Sir listens to Science Journey Channel, he will also be compelled to listen to that person.If his words reach people through such a big and great platform, then the revolution for which Science Journey is making great efforts and hard work is not far away. He should be given not just one but many opportunities to speak.Because his point cannot be completed in one episode. However, his own channel is also progressing a lot and will continue to grow. We are with him and wish him all the best.
Indus valley civilisation के लोग बुद्धिज़्म और जैन कल्चर को फॉलो करते थे।(Only culture not religion) आर्यन (घोड़े रथ वाले) eurasia के बाद पहले (oxus civilization) मे आकर बसे थे। हड़प्पा संस्कृति के लोग अपनी खेती को बचाने के लिए पुल बांध कर रखते थे। आर्यन उनपर पर आक्रमण करते रहते थे और उनके पुल तोड़कर उनकी खेती और व्यापार खराब कर देते थे। पुलों को इंद्र के द्वारा तोड़ने का जिक्र ragveda में मिलता है। धीरे धीरे नॉन आर्यन अपने नगर घर छोड़कर जाने लगे। कई पीढ़ी बाद उत्तर भारत (कुरुक्षेत्र) में आर्यों और नॉन आर्यों के बीच युद्ध हुआ था। फिर वैदिक काल का आरम्भ हुआ। Indus valley civilization की औरतों से शादी करके आर्यों ने अपने घर कुनबे बसा लिए। (new breed indus valley civilisation+ Aryan dna)और गैर आर्यों (only indus valley civilisation dna) को साउथ और जंगलों की तरफ भगा दिया। आर्य मांस खाते थे, घोड़े चलाते थे और हवन करते थे। उनको खेती नहीं आती थी। धीरे धीरे खेती और पशु पालन सीख लिया। कुछ पीढ़ियों बाद इन्हीं में से ब्राह्मण बने और समाज को वर्ण व्यवस्था में बांटने लगे । सबसे पहला वर्ण शूद्र बना जो कि pure indus valley civilisation के लोग थे।( new culture introduced brahminisim which includes temple worshipping). Jat caste people are truly those Aryans (today's farmers of Punjab Haryana). All other castes bhraman, khatri, gujjar, yadav,जाटव, bishnoi etc are Derived from Jat Aryans. Jat पहले Aryan culture ( जिसमें सिर्फ यज्ञ करते हैं) फॉलो करते थे। वर्ण व्यवस्था से बचने के लिए ही कुछ jaat सिख बन गए थे। Jaat community के लोग आर्यन होते हुए भी खेती से जुड़े रहने की वजह से गरीब रह गए। कुछ jat गरीब होने की वजह से lower cast me bhi aate Hain। Budhisim, Jainism, brahaminism, Aryan इन four culture ko mix करके हिंदू धर्म बना हैं जोकि मुगलों और अंग्रेजों के समय बना है और नया है। ब्राह्मण ने हर state में हर नस्ल के लोग ब्राह्मण बना दिए ताकि ये सबका शोषण करते रहे।ब्राह्मण कभी histoy को लेके सच नही बोल सकते क्योंकि इन्होंने सभी जातियों का शोषण किया है।
Indus valley civilisation के लोग बुद्धिज़्म और जैन कल्चर को फॉलो करते थे।(Only culture not religion) आर्यन (घोड़े रथ वाले) eurasia के बाद पहले (oxus civilization) मे आकर बसे थे। हड़प्पा संस्कृति के लोग अपनी खेती को बचाने के लिए पुल बांध कर रखते थे। आर्यन उनपर पर आक्रमण करते रहते थे और उनके पुल तोड़कर उनकी खेती और व्यापार खराब कर देते थे। पुलों को इंद्र के द्वारा तोड़ने का जिक्र ragveda में मिलता है। धीरे धीरे नॉन आर्यन अपने नगर घर छोड़कर जाने लगे। कई पीढ़ी बाद उत्तर भारत (कुरुक्षेत्र) में आर्यों और नॉन आर्यों के बीच युद्ध हुआ था। फिर वैदिक काल का आरम्भ हुआ। Indus valley civilization की औरतों से शादी करके आर्यों ने अपने घर कुनबे बसा लिए। (new breed indus valley civilisation+ Aryan dna)और गैर आर्यों (only indus valley civilisation dna) को साउथ और जंगलों की तरफ भगा दिया। आर्य मांस खाते थे, घोड़े चलाते थे और हवन करते थे। उनको खेती नहीं आती थी। धीरे धीरे खेती और पशु पालन सीख लिया। कुछ पीढ़ियों बाद इन्हीं में से ब्राह्मण बने और समाज को वर्ण व्यवस्था में बांटने लगे । सबसे पहला वर्ण शूद्र बना जो कि pure indus valley civilisation के लोग थे।( new culture introduced brahminisim which includes temple worshipping). Jat caste people are truly those Aryans (today's farmers of Punjab Haryana). All other castes bhraman, khatri, gujjar, yadav,जाटव, bishnoi etc are Derived from Jat Aryans. Jat पहले Aryan culture ( जिसमें सिर्फ यज्ञ करते हैं) फॉलो करते थे। वर्ण व्यवस्था से बचने के लिए ही कुछ jaat सिख बन गए थे। Jaat community के लोग आर्यन होते हुए भी खेती से जुड़े रहने की वजह से गरीब रह गए। कुछ jat गरीब होने की वजह से lower cast me bhi aate Hain। Budhisim, Jainism, brahaminism, Aryan इन four culture ko mix करके हिंदू धर्म बना हैं जोकि मुगलों और अंग्रेजों के समय बना है और नया है। ब्राह्मण ने हर state में हर नस्ल के लोग ब्राह्मण बना दिए ताकि ये सबका शोषण करते रहे। लेकिन real jaat Aryan सिर्फ पंजाब हरियाणा वाले area में ही होते हैं।ब्राह्मण कभी histoy को लेके सच नही बोल सकते क्योंकि इन्होंने सभी जातियों का शोषण किया है।
Only untouchables listen to him. He is not even a graduate, let alone an archeologist or a historian
Wow!! this was one hell of a podcast. There were lots of things that I personally didn't know about Harappa Civilizations. Please get another podcast with Devdutt Pattanaik. 👏🙏✌
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Yes SJ means original truth
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Jab vi aisa comment pad rahi hoon- discuss with proper historians, i remember Mr. Praveen Mohan, his subscribers and followers who regularly comment that 'aap hi true historian ho'🙏
Would love to listen to Devdutt patnaik all day long. Lots of respect for your knowledge. Makes me proud as an Indian listening to your actual facts about our forefathers
Discussion of Science and education are at top level👍👍👍👍
🤣🤣🤣 Dev Lok with science?? who writes mythology without any real facts LOL pity your brain.
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Devdatt is right.
We are a trading civilization.
Even the words in English economics have origins in Kannada.
Eg. *Market comes from Maru Katte (Seller's steps)
*Asset from Aasti
*Cash from Kaasu
Baniyafication of Harappan civilization can be better name for his book👏
Amazing discussion. Devdutt is outstanding. This introduces a new dimension. Reflecting - unlearning and now relearning. Thanks.
Who Created Harappan / Indus Valley Civilisation?...
Needn't doubt...... its by January 14, 1969 Madras....everything in the world is created in Madras 😂😂
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@kyalinkdalu बनिया बुद्धि धूर्तता कुटिलता छल धोखा बेइमानी मिलावट यही है क्या
@@RaviKumar-um5qd Brahman aur kashtriya ko bhi kuch aise hi naamo se pukarte ho tum log 😅 Lekin koi baat nai tumare pattan ka yehi Karan hai doosron ke prati dwesh tabhi tum log 5000 se tarakki nai kar sake😅
Ajit kumar Singh Kushwah hamesha fake sabut deta hai. Badka matka hai
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Fabulous interview will buy the book read and get more insights, always liked Devdutts perspective, thanks Abhi for the great interaction
Wait for the exploration of the yet undiscovered ancient archaeological sites across the Indian continent. We need those missing links of alphabets which would help us decipher the intriguing Harrappan texts
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@@प्रेमcosmos are yrr guptas ne vidisha mein udaigiri ki caves bnayi hai varah avatar ke liye
Bhitrigaon mandir jo Krishan ji ka hai vo Gupta ne banaya hai
Bas ek Gupta emperor Kumar gupta 1 tha jisne nalanda University bnwayi
Sayad vo Raha vo Buddhist but uske forefathers aur uske baad ke rulers ke bhi hindu mandir bnwane ke jyada evidence milte hai
Wow! What a fascinating and informative episode!! Maza a gaya. Please do some more episodes with Devdutt sir.
Fantastic bhai... Listened to the whole interaction in one go.... Although I've become a bad reader, I'm going to buy this book to know more.
Also, I still collect books even if I'm not reading... Sad but true... Hope to correct my ways this year and read my lovely books.
इस के बारे में विस्तार से जानकारी चाहिए तो दो चैनल हैं वो देखिए 1 science Journey 2 satya ke dharsan पर देखिए पुरे सबुतो के साथ बताते हैं 🙏🙏🙏
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This is the best explanation I saw on the end of Harappa civilization. As you said it was developed by traders to trade with Mesopotamian civilization. I also agree with you the Aryans came to India after 500 years afterHarappa civilization ended. You also mentioned alphabets ta,da,dha non existence in Iranian language and it is a byproduct of Indo-Aryan children incorporated those sounds into Sanskrit. This clearly indicates Vedas were written in 1000BCE. Another interesting point you raised is the roots of Sanatana dharma goes back to Harappan civilization and later incorporated many Buddhist, Jain and Vedic culture practices. You did not go further to discuss the creation of Brahmanism, Manusmruti and untouchability. Under Ashoka. Buddhism wiped out the Vedic culture, and the Pushyamitra Sunga killed the last Mauryan emperor and started to bring back Vedic/Brahmin/Sanskrit culture. It took 400 years to replace the Buddhism by Vedic Brahmsnism and wrote Manusmruti to codify Brahmin domination. They put limits to not to deviate the birth profession and put fear to go hell if broken. People who opposed it were called untouchables and outcasted them. Today RSS, BJP is following Pushya Mitra Sunga legacy and wanted to rule under their Hindi/Brahamin rule. This will not sustain, and India could break like Soviet Union into multiple countries. I hope you shed more light on these matters in your future topics!
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Very good interpretation @madhureddy ji
Madhu Reddy Ji I love your Interpretation/ Argument here.
How come then Saraswati river which dried up in 1900 BCE is mentioned in vedas as a full flowing river?
@@bharatiya0864 they might have written that by asking the localities
Extraordinary mind widening discussions between two.
Devadathji Ur thinking is clear. Misleading to correction will be new true history.
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Indus valley civilization is related with Buddhism and Jainism in one word you can say Saman prampra....❤
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@@thelight45 based on evidence we got till now.. I'm agreed 👍 with you bro.
Both religions were made way after the arrival of aryans and contributed 0% to the field of science and astronomy.
Are you crazy or what!!🤣🤣🤣
They all are trying to manipulate history... I'm unable to understand that why they just can't let the things be as they really are... Always try to manipulate, deviate the facts.
Dear Akash,
Nice podcast on Harappan and Indus Valley Civilisation.
Also your house is very beautiful.
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A new perspective for the whole Indian history... really commendable job 👏
Thanks Patnaik ji for bringing such a thought provoking and exciting book!! Special thanks to Team Deshbhakth ❤
Best ever podcast 😊 sir ge I am Sindhi and I love it from Pakistan
Best wishes, sister. Have a nice Sunday.
Hindu hai ya muslim
@@Unknowndadofyou hindu muslim se kya matlab hai ma ke pet se nikalte hi to mathe par thappa laga hota hai kya ki ye hindu hai ye muslim hai
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@@Unknowndadofyou zahir si baat hai Muslim hai
Harappan civilisation is an important topic in history and it really helps a lot for studies thanks for video
Kyu students ka syllabus bada rahe ho bhai😂
@@anonymous10809 Harappa civilization individual civilization is already in our history books
Kavi 8--9 ka book ko open kar dak dakho NCERT ka
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Board exam 10th me hote h padhne ki jarurat nahi h koi
Thankyou! The host started with too much energy that shocked me. But in the middle he manages his energy. But thank you so much for bringing devdutt ji. Love this topic.
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One quick question,, DDP sir, If Hindu deities Rama, Sita, Hanuman, Krishna , Radha and notable personalities of the epics like Karna, Arjuna, Drona, Bhishma really existed, then why were their names not emulated on kings of ancient India ( im referring to era between 500 B.C to 500 A.D). However we see their names emulated in later kings, (post 1000 AD)
They are just figments of fertile unproductive minds to mislead people.
it is mythology. there is no evidence that they existed.
@@prakhars962no they're not..... You are a Hindu but you are saying that mythology 😂 lol visit sanatan samiksha for your Hindu history
@@aftabumar8240 You are wrong. There are numerous seals and iconography of Hindu deities from 500 BC onwards found in modern day Afghanistan to even Cambodia and Indonesia. But it doesn’t verify whether they really existed or not.
@@ExMuslimaFahidamythology ka matlab pta hai?😂
Thats nt ur ancient history.
Mahabhart ramayan are called as mythology for a reason.
Tumse apni quran toh padi nhi gyi theek se😂 ab hindu hone ka dhong kr lo bs.
Proud to be son of indus valley civilization
Love you from Punjab Pakistan
Awesome discussion...entertaining and enlightening...how history should be taught!! Thanks so much for this conversation!!
Very interesting interview with Devdutt Patnaik. I've been following many of his interviews and newspaper articles. He is a charming and witty person with a treasure trove of information, intertwined with both some facts and some fiction, woven skillfully like a master story-teller. Devdutt, in my opinion is the Indian counterpart to Dan Brown, the author of several highly entertaining bestsellers, both mixed with a dollop of fact and interwoven with entertaining fiction. After all, he is a "mythologist". He specialises in the study of "Storytelling", of which all religions are based upon. But it is fascinating to listen to Dr. Devdutt Patnaik!
This is awesome broadcast
I ever seen
Thank you so much😊
Therevis a tribe called Gond or koya near chatisgad, Nagpur. They have much resbling language and culture with harrappa.
Mr. Late Motirawen kankali from this tribe red mohenjodaro sript successfully. There is lot of information about his work on you tube
Sir for your kind information both languages comes under umbrela of dravidian family..proto central dravidian family..
A very interesting discussion On our ancient culture and traditions and lots light has been shed on our thought process on which we interpret /misinterpret the societal structure-and the part it played on-our historical past . Thank you for this very important and discussion.
I dont agree with all of his opinion, but no one knows indus valley civilization fully. But his take is thought provoking ❤
@@insidyes1797 read Dr Rajendra Prasad Singh
Made up?
Lol, completely wrong! Why is india trying to make a claim over modern day Punjab? Harappan civilization is the north-west of modern day india - the punjab region which includes Indian Punjab, Pakistan Punjab, Kashmir, parts of balochistan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa ! The culture, the people were very different of the indus valley - "h!nd00s", actually those of Dravidian origin based in the valleys beyond the river Sindh coming from West to East!
The trade route is known to go through this region connecting it to all the various countries beyond India going from modern day China to the West! Hence why it was and has been many Sikhs who were involved in trade! Something modern day Punjab is not allowed to do funnily enough! 🤔🤫🤭
The history of this region / place belongs to the Sikh people and those they inherited it from! Emperor Kanishka was from this region. Does Kanishka ring a bell? It should do - it was the name of Fligh AI182 that was b0mbed on a crossing from Canada to "India" as it entered British air space (orchestrated by the indian rogue regime / deep state, allegedly) but was subsequently, deliberately blamed on Sikh activists (Khalist@n!s who campaigned for secession/independence restoring the region with the freedoms it enjoyed for a very long time. It was slowly dissolved over time with the help of the british and "indian/bray0man!cal" elites who evolved their power over time taking advantage of rulers by plating the game of being servants, mystics whispering into ears looking to steal wealth/take control where they could! True kings/royals were destroyed/removed from power over time with the gaps being filled by great pretenders who to this day hide their secrets well!
Modern day india is nothing like how it was. Even vedic texts talk about how this region is off limits to the indus valley people! Reason: people were aware of the tricks and games those at the top of the caste based system played! If you have ever heard of "the evil eye", 👁 its these pundits along with their scriptures, incantations and the political class that gave it meaning! Driven by a burning desire/a fire to tale what they could how ever they could! Day and night they would deviously make plans!
The influx of so called "aryan" people included and actually was likely only "The Jatts"! Not a caste but a civilization, a people with noble roots, trust worthy, salt of tge earth type, righteous! Who originated from the northern regions of Iran extending up and across the region spanning regions of Afghanostan towards the caucases, Russia,Turkey and West ward towards egypt, northern iraq! Some may even say... well that may be too much for some, would not want anyones brain exploding metaphorically speaking! 🤯💥🤯
It is their blood lines that crossed with earlier people/civilization of this north-west region of modern day india! Evident more so in Kashmiri peoples (fair skin, light hair, light eyes). A distinct separate group in many ways from the europeans, the chinese and the people of indus valley (i.e. dravidians - the real people of india).
Looking at comments on this posting Its interesting to see how a huge number of people suddenly become experts or reiterate what is said / presented in these kinds of podcasts to reinforce a narrative, often presenting India as this great race of people! It's as fake as a sprsy on sun tan! The likes + comments just seem overwhelming - like there is method to the madness? - 'not'!! Dare I say it... an attempt at presenting history in a different light to what actually was the case?! 🤔
Opinions, views are my own! No offense intended. If you got something to say please do so quoting your sources along with something confirming your argument! You will indeed be very hard pushed to find it!
It eould becinteresting to know how this expert appeared? What his credentials are? Has he written any papers? Have they been peer reviewed by independent entities across the world?
Please - substantiate your claims before making fools of people! They deserve better - at the very least - the truth! 🙏
One thing I've never fully understood is this: if we Indians are descendants of the people of the Harappan civilization, then where did our sense of civic advancement go? The Harappans had highly sophisticated urban planning, sanitation systems, and public infrastructure. Over the span of 4,000 years, shouldn't we have evolved into a more modern society with similar advancements? Yet, even today, we still struggle with basic sanitation issues. Compare this to the Roman Empire, which, despite its fall, left behind enduring legacies in architecture, governance, and infrastructure-clear evidence of a civilization that not only evolved but also left lasting contributions.
It makes me wonder how a civilization that was once so advanced could seem to have diminished in some aspects while others, like the Romans, progressed and adapted over time.
I think something bad happened here (famine, pandemic, invasion). No one will know because there is no documentation of harappa in history written by people. we only found out about this civilization after finding archaelogical remains by digging.
Only some might have managed to move to other places. That is the reason all the advancements died down.
We dont even know what langauge they wrote and spoke!
i think it should be linked with that scriptures that was burned by the mughal invaders and also the invasion of india time over time by british, afgans and mughals
Aryan Invasion, deport the Aryans and take back our civilization.😅
Bro we were busy 800 years fighting with invasion and then Brits. Civic sense and other stuff at that time took a back turn.
But even if you compare medieval Indians to medieval Europeans, medieval Indians were way more hygienic. Indians used to bath daily, while west was living like bathing was a luxury.
Andhbakhts take- 800 years of invasion destroyed 5000 years of civilization!!?? Need to analyze what they did wrong. Maybe the kings or queens in the holybooks were busy fighting eachother, imposing caste system, color racism and eventually destroying and corrupting everything.
very facinating....as a Pakistani follower of your channel i really appretiate your effort in high lighting our shared history and our shared ancestory.
Our ancestry but bro you're from middle ear right? And nothing to do with local culture?
It's his also ancestory.
@@siddhidhuri8424 what,?
@@sb-bw4lpdon't make fun of yourself here
@@sb-bw4lp Pakistanis are related to Indus Valley, meanwhile our Haryana, some parts of Rajasthan and Gujarat are later Harappan zones.
They're more Indian than us, but don't know that.
This man is really born to make history proud to be an Indian🇮🇳🥰💖
And You are born to spam continously in comments making spam history 🤣🤣
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Science journy से डिबेट से भाग गया था ये ब्राह्मणधर्म का दलाल हैं
I could listen to to another hour of this conversation. What a beautiful discussion. Thank you @thedeshbhakt !
Proud to be an Indian🙏
One of the best video for mythology lovers 👍
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We should only read books from Gandhi family- only true source of history discovery of India
Now great RG is taking India forward, whole civilisation owns a debt to G family
Hope this makes you happy
Lmao 😂
Loved this 😂😂😂
Before I use to listen this self proclaimed 'historian , spiritual teacher ' but slowly i realised he is just cooking up things and serving them with glamour .....
BTW, He never said he is a historian. He is just saying that we should analyse and imagine things from various aspects.
He never proclaimed to be a 'historian or spiritual teacher.'. He is not a Brahmavadi
@vinsin328 sabko labels mai baantna sikha kar angrejon ne gark kar diya hamara
Thanks for such a detailed elaborate discussion on this untouched subject with some other angle.
रामायण महाभारत के अस्तित्व को मानने वाला क्या
Reality पर भाष्य कर सकता है
बस अपने हिसाब से गपोड सकता है
अति अर्ध सत्य
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You also need exmuslims.
Eknaam hi Kaafi hai!!!
@@teach-mint4141 it's a community on RUclips where people from all religion talk on rational issues. Ex-Muslims don't dare to talk on Hindu topics as their audience comes for Muslim bashing,
rational world(science journey) talks on just every religion exposing them.
@@abc_cba buddhism par science journey 🤡
@@Karankashyap45 he never forces anyone.
Buddhism is not a religion unlike Hinduism. It has no rituals, no drama, nothing.
I think you didn't watch much of his videos.
एक भारतीय खासकर हिंदू भारतीय कभी भी देश का असली इतिहास नहीं ला सकता हैं क्योंकि वह मान ही नहीं सकता कि हिंदू धर्म के अलावा कुछ हो सकता है हिंदुस्तान में और वह उसी को आधार बनाकर अपने विचारधारा के आधार पर खोज तथा निष्कर्ष निकलता है।
@@manishkumarkhatkariya2456 usi ki baat Kiya he devdatt patnayak ji ne ,
1)Bengals sindhur is a continuation of harrappa ,
2) veda are the memories of harrappa (not a foreign document)
3) harrappa may be a baniya samaj civilization
4) harrappa may have cast system
Half human half animals may be a goddess and we may see a develop version in Hinduism ( sheravali )
Or south temple architecture were multi animals are see in single statue
@@ishwardere1855U slightly misunderstood his take on pashupati image. He is clearly saying, we don't know whether that image represents lord Shiva or just a normal person.
People blinded by religion will always look at things from their religious angle and so pseudo religious people distort history.
@@Ram_Mohammad_Singh_Adam Biases are everywhere Mr. Ram Mohan Singh ji. Take you for an example. You have a bias against Hindu religious people. So you will have your perspective everything against Hinduism. At least a religious person is having bias for his faith not against someone else's faith like you. Try to have this bias against Islam and have that perspective as well. I bet you don't have the balls to have that bias. Just try to have that bias for once, you will feel World can get rid of a lot of Cancerous thoughts which is unfortunately increasing every day.
@@malyajlikhar5605 I didn't say anything against any particular religion. I said about every religious people. A hindu thinks his religion is the best, a Christian thinks his religion is the best, a muslim thinks his religion is the best and I think all are equally blinded 😐
@@ishwardere1855 not caste, it's varna system 👍
Great conversation and insight into our past.
Hope this will lead to more research on Harappan civilization with different perspectives. 😊
सर ! मोहन जोदड़ो हड़प्पा में तो बौद्ध स्तूप के अवशेष भी मिले हैं | यही नहीं गौतम बुद्ध के वेश~ भूषा यानी कपड़े पहनावा वाले ही एक मूर्ति भी मिली है | इसका मतलब वहां प्राचीन बौद्ध धर्म और संस्कृति ही थी | ❤❤❤
@@manumahli6033 lol.. any proper Source ⁉️🤡 Give me a link
@@manumahli6033 kyo bhai kyo itna jhoot bolte ho tm?
Gautam budh ka janm hi 2600 saal pahle hua jbki harappan ya sindhu ghati civilisation 3500 saal pahle hi khatm ho gayi thi, matlab Gautam budh ke 900-1000 saal pahle 😂
@@vivekbhardwaj4782 are bhai Gautam buddh 28 ve buddh the. Unse pahle 27 buddh aur ho chuke the tripitak ke mutabik. Sabse pahle buddh tadankar buddh the.
@@foxieram kahi ki eent, kahi ka roda,
Bhanumati ne kunba joda. 😃
Bas yahi hisab India ke budh logo ka ka bhi ha 😂
Pata kuch hota nahi ha, whatsApp university se phd karne me lage hue ha sb ke sb. 😂
Gautam budh sirf ek hi hue ha bhai aaj tak , unke shishyo ne hi aage chalkar bodh dharm banaya.
Jo tm 27 budh bata rahe ho wo budh nahi balki Jain dharm ke teerthankar hue ha 28 , Teerthankar mahaveer jee 28 th teerthankar the jain logo me.
Lekin tm logo ne ab bodh Or jain dharm ko bhi mix karke rakh diya ha.
@@foxieramoh to matlab gautam buddh ne buddhism ki shuruaat nhi ki thi?
Very good interview! We need textbooks and lectures sharing balanced views from cultural perspectives that inspire more inquiry an excite the mind, instead of political agenda oriented arrogance pontification that blinds and stops critical thinking.
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Great podcast and felt like we are in a masterpiece lecture on Indus valley civilization.
If we see history from a religious angle, we would only end up with hatred or radicalism.
We should see it from academic POV to understand the economy, society, religion and culture of its time.
Great episode. Illuminating and thought provoking. Kudos Deshbhakt.❤
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aaise hi episode aur laate rhe history pe india aur world pe bhi
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I love Sh. Devdutt Patnaik's unbiased view points whether history or mythology.
But जाती से लगाव काफी है l बार बार बनिया बनिया बोल रहे
UPSC aspirants gonna love this.... Such an useful podcast ❤🎉💯
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And 100% made-up details by someone who doesn't know ABC of history and archaeology.
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