There is a saying in my language: "After the battle, everybody is a general". But in this comment section you can substitute it with "before battle". :D
It would be funny if China just shower Taiwan with long range missiles for 3 days straight and Taiwan just surrender before the US can send their first gun
@@youarebeingtrolled6954they also don't realize that Japan literally used Taiwan as a staging ground where they then attacked China during ww2. This is why many Chinese in the mainland disliked Taiwan.
It’s crazy that in his age he’s that dialed into modern strategy… that guy has been around 3 times as long as me, but only has so much knowledge it’s incredible.
I really agree. Distributed network warfare demands many more distributable, expendable and networkable delivery systems that can easily pick up and move to different locations.
They need to do everything because no matter how much they distribute, they are all on the island. Which is why in order to survive the initial surprise attack, they need to keep forces outside of Taiwan, North, South and East of Taiwan. China will probably also use swarms of helicopters and planes to get lots of people there quickly.
@@dtsai you're not wrong. I think a break-in defense is a great idea in this situation... It is often a great tactical strategy, but in this case especially, good call.
I think they’re wrong about trying to have A2AD in the ocean though. The PLA Navy far outguns the Taiwanese, trying to fight at sea would be disastrous for Taiwan. Instead they’re better off using the defence advantage at the shoreline and using their ships to secure routes of resupply and reinforcement. D-Day showed us just how costly opposed amphibious landings can be. A relatively small defending force can hold up and damage a much larger one with massive consequences. Furthermore, D-Day came when theLuftwaffe was nearly nonexistent as a fighting force. Provided that Taiwan could preserve its air forces in the opening hours of the attack, they could rain air power down on the landing zones with devastating effect and quick turn around while the PLAA and PLAN would be relying on carrier and mainland based sorties for air cover.
I actually disagree. An invasion is not even close to being possible and both sides know this. Russia couldn't cross rivers. 100 miles of ocean is a death sentence. There is no way to land ships against modern anti ship missiles. If China was serious about invasion they would be building a much more massive like 20x larger helicopter fleet to transport troops. But they are building a generally useful military not one optimized for invasion. Far more likely is a blockaid and ballistic missile attacks until Taiwan gives up. And countering this requires symmetrical assets not asymmetric ones. This is why Taiwan has moved towards consentrating on their own ability to threaten the Chinese mainland. It is a more effective deterrent. Amphibious landings against modern weapons are a joke proposition.
Hey, technically, the civil war started in 1946 didn't end, there wasn't a ceasefire agreement, the civil war was simply paused by the Korean War and Korean War didn't end either.
@@vlhc4642Worry about both. But in the end, ship to shore will be what determines everything. Bombing campaigns rarely ever force an enemy into submission. It's the invading force that does that job.
The most worry thing happen, if china attack taiwan it will effect ecomony the whole word, it devistate more than rusia-ukraine war.. the increase price + inflation + supply food + oil + tech suply + electronic etc its scary
@@SuperCatacata You know the word "siege" came from the Latin word "sit", as in to "siege" a fort is to sit back and wait til they surrender under your blockade. Taiwan is an island with just 2 month of fuel, you don't actually need any bombing campaign to force them into submission. The bombing campaign just helps convince them to submit faster.
I like how Taiwanese admiral left sea drones part out. Which can become the most painful point during the warfare. This can disrupt supply and blockade military forces at no cost. Ukrainian war showed the effectiveness of that weapon.
@@DY-fy2jh Although China has more aerial drone capabilities and presumably that might transfer to marine drones too, it's also true that their USVs aren't going to have as much targets as Taiwan's will. Taiwan could use USVs against incoming Chinese ships.
I don't think that was a mistake. Many of the most sensitive details critical to any military operation tend not to be brought up, at least for now. Unfortunately, China is also aware of drone capabilities. Last I heard, they were testing a supposedly civilian small cargo ship that just happens to be capable of doubling as a remote drone carrier. Not sure what's the status on that, but yeah, the future arms race looks very drone-intensive for all sides.
The trust is, Taiwan alone can never defend against China, China is just 10x bigger and has more resources. USA may help in a normal war, but in a long term seige, No way.
Showing ones strength to an adversary and having it well known is the key to any deterrence. Many wars including much of WW2 would never have happened if the attacking side really knew what they were up against.
in ww2 the allies showed weakness through appeasement. usa was out of the picture. russia had a pact with germany. the west today shouldnt make the same mistake again.
Not quite. Hitler really was stupid enough to have started a war anyways. His generals told him it was suicide, even while the offensive in the east was still going well.
Switzerland is mountainous and armed to the teeth. It has underground (under rock) shelters enough to house it's entire population. Fortress Switzerland has not been successfully invaded in what... 600 years? Minefields can make life precarious for ships. And there is a proposal to nuke the three gorges dam floating around. Best idea is to not invade.
Not really this perspective doesn’t really make sense until the Germans attacked the Soviets and the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor the war was happening for 2 years before both of these events
The war in Ukraine has demonstrated that unmanned aerial weapons, MANPADS and drones will play a far more significant part in any future conflicts. Taiwan should be building up these resources
Let's be honest, a major portion of Taiwan's strategy for dealing with China in the event of an invasion involves drawing the United States into the conflict.
@@ramjam6934 I think Japan is already preparing for it. They have been building their military up recently. Korea would depend on what North Korea says and does. I have no idea what india would do tbh. I also don't know if any of them have a treaty with Taiwan similar to ours.
USA doesn't want Taiwan to have Nukes. But perhaps in the interests of peace, Taiwan could get The Rods of God up in space that would only be used when necessary.
@@AvuncularMicah That does seem like a very good deterrence strategy similar to having nukes. However, they do not yet have the capability to certainly penetrate the air defences and deal enough damage so it fails massively. Dam is a hardened structure and has many ''layers'' so it isn't even know how much damage you actually need to do for it to fail.
@@dianahill5116 Man woman black white gay straight doesn’t matter who’s in charge war is in our blood and it’s a part of human nature and no matter how hard we try we can never change human nature
@@millennium677 There is no such thing as human nature. Humans behave differently across cultures. Among the Amish for example, there are nearly no reported murders. It is scarcity that creates viciousness between organisms, and it doesn't stop with humans.
Do you think dialogue can solve the problem? Taiwan has revised its textbooks and completely denies that it was once "Chinese" Taiwan's geographical location makes it impossible for it to be independent... Can you imagine having a Russian island at the doorstep of the United States?
@@xDomglmao a term I believe was said by Johnny Harris on Japan heavily militarizing the Ryukyu Island Chain where they installed Long Range Missiles capable of reaching the Taiwan Strait or the mainland China. reference: ruclips.net/video/plHRRFHZ_f0/видео.html
Taiwan isn't recognized as a sovereign nation by most of the world. " Only a handful of countries officially recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state. These countries include Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Paraguay, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, São Tomé and Príncipe, and Vatican City."
When PRC attack, ROC must show they can hold the island on its own during the early stage of the fight, if not USA may also bomb TSMC facilities to prevent PRC get hold of the facilities. Potentially getting bomb by both enemy and friend. What a tough position.
money cant solve that, in spite of what your reddit education tells you. 700BN is put towards ending homelessness, biden just signed 100bn infrastructure, and we put more of our taxes to healthcare than any other country.@@angus7278
I don’t know if Mainland China wants to invade Taiwan, but I know the Americans won’t be spilling blood and steel to defend Taiwan. Just look at the homeless drug addicts in SF and you’ll know what a disaster we are in here.
Also semi autonomous underwater long range torpedoes. They could automatically surface to recharge their batteries once a month, using a thin film solar panels on their surface.
I am following Kings & Generals' Pacific campaign that was fought between Japan and the Allies. It's mind boggling how many amphibious assaults both sides conducted throughout the campaign. And in between those assaults, you have the successful ones, the not-so-successful ones, and the failed ones. Then there were so many battles fought just to resupply the armies already landed. From the Japanese side, you have the early 1942 campaigns where they conducted so many amphibious landings all around the Pacific - from Philippines, to Malaya, to Dutch East Indies, Guam, Wake, and so on. And then the US did the same from Guadacanal to the Pacific islands, all through Iwojima and Okinawa. And that's just the Pacific campaign - there were amphibious operations done in the European theater too by the Allies - the North African landing, the Sicilian landing, the South France landing, and of course the famed Normandy landing. Even Germany conducted some amphibious assault in their invasion of Norway and the airborne operations of Cretan assault. The amount of experience accumulated by not just the US but Japan and other belligerents in amphibious assaults were immense. Meanwhile, China has conducted 0 amphibious assault in modern time. Can they excel in their first try by just learning from military history? If the generals and its officers were first rate students and implementers of those studies, maybe?
In fact, what you call those experiences have long been lost in the dust of history, and modern Westerners only have the experience of the war on terror, and everyone is at the same starting line in the great power war
Ignore the trolls, every year the number of people in China who believes Taiwan is not part of China increases. I lived in Beijing until 2018, and most people then were "nationalistic" on this matter. Ever since I left practically all Chinese I talk to uses VPN and talks very openly about "Taiwan is already an independent country without recognition" and jokes about "I would rather have Taiwan passport than China passport". My prediction is Taiwan (as an independent nation) is going to outlive the PRC, and the next government of China will most likely give up this issue.
China will never attack Taiwan unless one of the following 1 Taiwan declares referendum on independence 2 develope its own nuclear program 3 external forces to assist in the island independence. ... if none of that... stay clam and carry on
interesting how his strategy speaks to the individual warrior on the battlefield in the 21st century. Many small units with some real punch doing major work.
If the PLA lands on Taiwan, asymmetrical warfare is the only hope Taiwan has. However, Taiwan needs enough anti-ship, surface to air, and surface to surface missiles to defeat any PLA force from landing on Taiwan. These missiles need to be stocked on Taiwan, dispersed across the island. PLA ships should have to run an impenetrable gauntlet to reach the island.
Because in open and free elections, Puerto Ricans overwhelmingly reject independence. The only real debate there is whether to keep the status quo or whether to apply for statehood.
There a good reason why the US and her allies in the region are making a new island defensive chain system. The goal of it to basically dismantle the China navy during it invasion. Making China force to choose between striking at a American carrier strike force or the defensive front that can do not only cripple but has the potential to stop the invasion with short range strikes onto it fleet.
You mean like the QUAD? Where Japan was vocal about not interfering (Orianna Skylar) for fear of retribution? Or India, who's best buds with Russia? That's why Aukus was formed btw, no one in Asia is going to fight US wars lol
@@paulcruz168lmao??? The Chinese and Russian are kinda buddies. Many believe in India and abroad like you that USSR or Russia has always been a friend to India... But do you know a very lesser known fact? Just before the 1962 Indo China war.. The Chinese Premiere spoke to the Russian Premier and informed him that a possible invasion of India was brewing. The Russian Premier Delayed the delivery of Mig 21s to India which cost us the war. It was one of Russia's deliberate attempts to Please Beijing and choose Beijing over NCR(National Capital Region of India). If an imminent war breaks out now..... Then India will have to face China alone without Russian help. This is exactly the reason why India is steadily shifting towards the West and also Arab and African nations and even SEA and Australia, Japan, Korea.
@@yeetericus113 lol, wow,. First Taiwan isn't where all transistors come from, Taiwan makes most 5nm and below processing chips used in phones and GPUs, and drones processors use 28nm chips, maybe 14nm at most, and the vast majority of chips are power transistors, power regulators and radio modules that uses even bigger nodes. In other words nobody need Taiwan to build drones. Second China is one of the worlds largest maker of 28nm chips, has been mass producing 14nm for a few years now and just started mass producing 7nm. DJI has been under US sanctions for 2 years now, did they care? Three, drones needs a lot more than just chips, you need cameras, radios, batteries, motors, motor drivers, and composites. Taiwan has none, its' all China. The only way Taiwan can build any drone is to buy from Aliababa, infact they had a scandal last year where they had to send their military drone to mainland China for repairs.
@@vlhc4642 China doesn't have 10 thousand drones with the range to cross the Taiwan strait. The cheap commercial quad copter and small fixed wing drones being used in Ukraine can't travel anywhere close to that far. And you don't need SAMs to counter drones. Ukraine is very effectively countering slow moving drones with small arms fire and mounted machine gun fire (anti aircraft guns). The German supplied Gepard anti aircraft gun is very effective.
It’s not getting mentioned much but the Panama Canal is experiencing a lot of issues. The Pacific Ocean sits higher than the Atlantic so ships need to pass thru 3 lock gates. Due to droughts only 32 ships can pass thru a day with draft or weight limits in place to preserve fresh water. This could seriously limit the US ability to resupply or move assets
What do you mean by the Pacific Ocean sits higher than the Atlantic Ocean? I know the lock gates are there to level the boats with the fresh water lakes in Panana but I'm curious to know your answer to my question.
The naval assets we'd need to put china in its place are already in the Pacific. This isn't 1945 when most of US assets were centered on the East Coast. We have major bases in Philippines, Japan, Korea, already. They would all be attacked preemptively by china if they expect to survive more than a week. (Those attacks would also result in a defacto state of war between China and S Korea, China and Japan, and China and Philippines- forcing china to stretch its resources even further). Not to mention bases in the remote pacific islands like Guam midway Hawaii etc. Unlike any other major nation, the US doesn't really need to fear direct attack on its homeland. That means we can send large portions of our collective assets to one region, and not leave ourselves open to attack. So many nations rely on the US for their national security so if the US is actually attacked (as it would be if china invaded taiwan) many would immediately come to the aid of the Americans. Australia is in a similar position as S. Korea and Japan, concerned over China's aggression. I believe they would similarly step in as they've been building up their military as well in preparation of this conflict. The UK joins us in most of our wars anyway. Should Aus be directly engaged, then the UK would be as well. In a defensive war such as this, Canada and Germany would similarly join. Obviously all would if Article 5 is activated but IIRC it is not automatically activated if the attack on a NATO nation occurs outside the north Atlantic. However, most nato nations wouldn't care about that distinction in the event of a sizable attack such this. Finally, trumping all those factors is one simple factor: microchips. For some stupid reason, no one realized what a stupid idea it is to have all the world's microchips made in one spot. Even if that one spot were as safe as, idk... Kansas, it would still be an all eggs, one basket situation. Now let's put that basket right next to our biggest rival. Granted we didn't know they'd be our biggest rival until about 10 or 20 yrs ago, but still we knew they sought to recapture taiwan. Regardless, we've had at least a decade to start building those microchip plants here. Some would be coming online now had we done so. But we are really only starting to do so now. Bc we've allowed our internal squabbles dominate our focus. Even when we aren't squabbling domestically, large portions of us say we need to only focus on ourselves and stop policing the world. Which is true, of course, but we don't have that luxury yet. I fear we adapt too slowly sometimes. This is such an enormous ship - by far the biggest ever built - this ship of state turns very slowly. It accelerates slowly. It's slow to stop. And its captain is never the best person for captain; its captain is the person best at becoming captain.
We are currently seeing in Ukraine how anti-ship missiles can be a cheap, powerful deterrent against navies. The Russian Black Sea fleet won't come within 150 km of the Ukrainian controlled coast.
Becouse that would probably be the worst case nightmare scenario for the PLA. First they take heavy losses landing and taking a part of Taiwan, and now not only do they have to deal with local insurgencies, but there is still a part of the island where the enemy has their forces and can constantly launch small attacks on your positions. They either don't land at all or take the whole thing, anything in between would be a huge pain.
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China's population and military are so large that heavy casualties on the Communists' side would be accepted as "cost of business." Even a credible nuclear threat might not dissuade China. Suppose the war escalated to a nuclear exchange between the United States and China. A Minuteman or Trident missile strike against a handful of military targets and a city of two would amount to a tolerable "population adjustment," especially since in China, unlike the West, the survival of the community is culturally and legally ranked far above the rights of the individual. On the other hand, were a Chinese nuclear warhead to detonate anywhere in the United States, the actual damage and the emotional and cultural toll would be far higher for us. We need to make a decision. If China invades Taiwan, we can take no action and leave it be, which has some very unpleasant consequences. If we decide to intervene, it cannot be a politically limited strike. It has to be an all-out attack, destroying Chinese targets on land and at sea, and even attacks on Beijing and other key cities, specifically targeting Command, Communication and Control centers without let-up. If the Chinese warned they would unleash nuclear weapons, we would have to communicate that our nuclear strike would not be limited to a "population adjustment." We would be ready to use enough arsenal to turn the 50 largest Chinese cities into molten glass and much of China into a wasteland, including targeting food growing regions. Then we would offer China a way to save face and declare victory while withdrawing its forces from Taiwan.
Taiwan (Republic of China) already belongs to the People's Republic China the way that Hawaii belongs to the USA or the northern part of Ireland belongs to England, or French Polynesia belongs to France and US Micronesia belongs to the USA. What the people there want is entirely irrelevant.
The average PLA soldier or sailor is likely to be from a one chid family. Throwing their lives away in human waves like they did in Korea in the 50s is no longer feasible. And that is only on the military side. More one child families will be looking for an answer from the CCP if Taiwan retaliated by launching missiles against Chinese cities. The one child policy is one of the best deterrents against a profligate waste of lives that any invasion would involve.
U really think China can't inflict this same level nuclear retaliation on return. China's nuclear arsenal is growing at an alarming level. They will have 1000 nukes soon. And they will be able turn 50 American cities back to the stone age in return
cheapest solutions are Best Solutions. Cheap anti ship Drones & Manpads can do enormous damage to PLA, PLAN efforts to takeover without collateral damages. Make this war very hard & expensive for CCP with body bags going back into Mainland
The US military will never directly engage the PLA.. exactly how they're not engaging Russian military in Ukraine.. seems what ever China does, they will dominate Taiwan. If not at first physically occupied on the ground, given enough time economically choking all goods in/out of the island, the Taiwanese will have no choice but to completely surrender
after pelosi's visit PLA navy did a simulated sea blockade and no foreign ships dared to sail close to taiwan.. same will happen in eventual reunification and it'll be quick and hopefully peaceful
The best defense is for Taiwan to develop nuclear weapons. NATO could easily crush Russia but it dares not because of Russia's nuclear arsenal. Taiwan is very advanced. It would be pretty simple for them to do it on their own.
That is true, but just imagine what could happen if China discovered it before its complete. It could trigger an instant invasion. If it was sucessful it would guarantee their safety, but its way too risky.
Taiwan tried and were like 1 year away to be capable to pump out nuclear weapon in late 1980s. Guess who found out and forced Taiwan to stop the program? U.S. ofc. And that's that. Too bad really as Taiwan with nuke would be the strongest ally U.S. has on China issue.
I love when people denial about "nato is strong.. could easly fight russia.. best army.. blahblahblah" but in reality nato just no action talk only LOL
@@privacyhelp Being "all talk" means its working as intended. NATO exists primarily to provide peace trough deterrence. Nobody dares to invade a nation which is a part of NATO becouse it would lead to said nation getting completely overwhelmed the second the article 5 gets invoked, and as such there was never a need for NATO to go in guns blazing against somoene.
If the US leaves the status quo alone, nothing will happen, but my deepest fear is that the US has never had a history of non interference in main regional issues. But the key is really that the government leaders of Taiwan stay firm for the good of the people.
Taiwan's only hope is to: 1. Enhance its own littoral and coastal defence force by means of using cost effective and asymmetric warfare platforms like coastal defence mini-submarines (120-500 tons), shore-based anti- missile defense systems, drones (surveillance, combat, & kamikaze), naval mines, ground-based air defense systems (long-range, medium-range, & short-range), man-portable weapons ( ATGMs and MANPADs), mobile artilleries (MLRS), and decoys. 2. Build more well concealed and underground bunkers for the storage of provisions, logistics, shelter, etc. 3. Store necessary much needed provisions and logistics. 4. Ask for help/support to the US
Taiwan's only hope is to stop inviting the evil and sit down with China. Do you know what's Taiwan's language? It's called Mandarin Chinese. They are the same people. Stop being tricked by the imperialist with the divide and conquer tactic.
It seems USA can always find a place they want to help and somehow that place always end up in ruined. Maybe the problem is either Taiwan or China. Just saying...
@@universalcompilations1662 taiwan war will be in usa russia n china will support cuba texas or whole south puetorico hawaii russia will come down alaska n mexico come up california china can support the red indians n natives in newzealand n australia usa is full of holes - no need to touch taiwan/asia
I'd like to see the state of China's economy in about five years, ten years. China's demographics are showing a rapidly aging population. Will they actually have the capability to do it? Another COVID outbreak? The ramp-up to mounting an invasion from the Mainland, or man-made islands, would be so obvious as to allow the US Navy and Air Force to get into position. Crossing the expansion of the Strait is a heck of a lot wider than the English Channel. The big question for me is, why would China risk destroying a territory, through warfare, that is trying to acquire? Make no sense.
According to the constitution of Taiwan or Mainland China, Taiwan is a province belongs to China.(Republic of China (Taiwan) or People's Republic of China (CCP))
China's policy: Taiwan is part of China, and the People's Republic of China is the sole representative government of China, as recognized on paper by the international community, even by the United States in the Declaration on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations between China and the United States. The best way to resolve the Taiwan issue is through peaceful consultation and shelving the issue, but the use of force is not ruled out. Analysis: If the U.S. chooses to keep hyping this topic, and Taiwan's leaders keep following this independent move, war is inevitable. All along, both the Mainland and Taiwan have the option of shelving this topic, and as long as the leaders of Taiwan do not discuss independence and do not follow the United States every day, nothing will actually happen to Taiwan, which is actually a very good solution, that is, shelving the issue.
It’s wild to see literal CCP shilling being left untouched by RUclips mods. This is a western website, why do we allow such propaganda? Anyway the CCP has NEVER governed Taiwan, not even for one second
Basically you said “as long as Taiwan bows down and becomes a vassal of Emperor Winnie Pooh, they will be fine” like no one wants that, you learnt this last election when your pro mainland politician lost
For now, China will not send its military to invade Taiwan. China will take at least ten years to build up more ships, submarines, more planes etc. They are also wary of the US sponsored military alliances and bases around them. At this point of time, they can only irritate by sending its ships and planes into Taiwanese waters and airspace. All that siren warnings is good enough to send fear, disrupt daily economic activities. Nations and governments must seek peace.
All 差不多 in quality..... The PLN isn't what one would call a modern navy. When I was in the USN; we were constantly having to chase China out of the territorial waters of other countries, where they didn't belong.
@@manofsan Taiwan's age demographic isn't that different from China's, though so it's a rather strange argument. Unless the taiwanese start youthening their population there's only a very small advantage at best for Taiwan not enough to make a difference if China can improve fleet capability and internal stability before the attack.
So, you guys know better then? Last I checked, Ukraine stopped using Western tactics because it's not helping them. Taiwan would be wise to learn from that, or better still, try to make sure no war occurs.
I’m convinced that the US should give Taiwan a combination of 250 Pershing missiles and stealthy Cruise missiles. Then give them a minimum of 2000 anti-ship missiles.
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You sir are an intelligent individual, this is coming from a person on RUclips. The CCP is an extremely corrupt and efficient force, they are the super baddies that make terrible bridges, poisoned baby powder, and immense human rights abuses by making CCTV CCP City
Avoiding a war is definitely the best case scenario for Taiwan. Unfortunately, the US defense contractors, the bankers, the politicians, and the corporate press would benefit much more if they could provoke China into attacking.
This is a ridiculous statement. There's money in any preparation. Plenty of companies and governments invest in fire prevention because the economics support it. No one is banking on more fires to sell fire extinguishers. The Taiwan situation is a potentially nuclear one. No nuclear powers have ever gone to war, and the world isn't banking on risking one for money. We're simply stuck in a bad standoff, with no side willing to back off.
i don't think taiwanese has the determination to perform guerrilla warfare or something like that. the biggest obstacle to china is always the international reaction, not taiwan itself
US won’t allow Taiwan to trigger a nuclear war by itself. Washington has stopped Taiwan from developing its own nukes 3 times. Read the article Taiwan’s dire strait from Mearsheimer.
it all depends on the willingness of china regarding own human losses. lets say china does not care at all, they just drop a few 100k soldiers over the island. a few 10ks might die, at the same time attack with warplanes and warships. if china just throws in the bodies, taiwan can do nothing to fully repel it. if china wants to minimize casualties, then its quite a tricky endevour. i think you cannot overtake taiwan with accepting many losses. its just a too small and crowded space.
you don't know how important the strategical position of Taiwan for China, if China lost Taiwan, then that's a big potential threat for the safety of China.
drones? flying ones? no i mean if china drops this amount of soldier within the same day. like operation normandie. drones wont help. taiwan will get simply overrun but china suffers extreme losses. as i say, china is able to do that if they want to. @@blowindzhang6795
In Japan, the legend of the Divine Wind that stopped the mongel invasion is legendary. Fighting over the land is one thing, but getting there across the sea is much harder. Many PLA will die in the crossing with missiles and subs.
When Kruschev tried to put nukes on Cuba, Kennedy ordered a naval blockade of that island. Kruschev backed down, he had to. The other alternative would be WWIII. Taiwan is just another Cuba with one difference, both Taiwan and China consider Sun Yat-Sen as the father of modern China, both are Chinese with Chinese blood, use Chinese names, language, customs, celebrate the same festivities, share the same history. That's why it's best for both to reunite peacefully, no matter how long that would take -Yan Yuan 😮
What allies need is to blocked oil going to China from the east and they will dry very soon and not able to continue the war effort. Oil blockade is very easy to do, so China need to think before launching invasion like that.
Everyone in these comments is a retired 5 star general. How lucky of Taiwan to have all these experienced combat planners.
lol!
dont worry these people are think the same with ukraine, they think ukraine can easly win just because they have all nato and american weapons LOL
Hahaha, it's entertaining tho reading top notch admiral level opinion in the comment section.. 🤣
They wish they were 😂
There is a saying in my language: "After the battle, everybody is a general". But in this comment section you can substitute it with "before battle". :D
Omg how I missed reading comments from the world's finest military advisors.
It would be funny if China just shower Taiwan with long range missiles for 3 days straight and Taiwan just surrender before the US can send their first gun
@@CaptainKipo-n6g ye, the issue with taiwan has always been kmt working with ccp.
They also have Medical degree in Virology😂
@@GBR9794you know kmt fought a civil war right? Unlike dpp who sided with japan in ww2😂
@@youarebeingtrolled6954they also don't realize that Japan literally used Taiwan as a staging ground where they then attacked China during ww2. This is why many Chinese in the mainland disliked Taiwan.
It’s crazy that in his age he’s that dialed into modern strategy… that guy has been around 3 times as long as me, but only has so much knowledge it’s incredible.
If there is one thing I learn about war , it's that war is extremely unpredictable
But more predictable: Henry Kissinger Quote: “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
If I was Xi Jinping I would be conducting military drills off the coast of the USA, and set up nuclear missiles bases in Cuba!
"No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy." -- Carl von Clausewitz
@@pedrob3953 Wrong though
@@chriswong9158 Because Putin's friend is safe?😂
I really agree. Distributed network warfare demands many more distributable, expendable and networkable delivery systems that can easily pick up and move to different locations.
They need to do everything because no matter how much they distribute, they are all on the island. Which is why in order to survive the initial surprise attack, they need to keep forces outside of Taiwan, North, South and East of Taiwan. China will probably also use swarms of helicopters and planes to get lots of people there quickly.
@@dtsai you're not wrong. I think a break-in defense is a great idea in this situation... It is often a great tactical strategy, but in this case especially, good call.
I think they’re wrong about trying to have A2AD in the ocean though. The PLA Navy far outguns the Taiwanese, trying to fight at sea would be disastrous for Taiwan. Instead they’re better off using the defence advantage at the shoreline and using their ships to secure routes of resupply and reinforcement.
D-Day showed us just how costly opposed amphibious landings can be. A relatively small defending force can hold up and damage a much larger one with massive consequences.
Furthermore, D-Day came when theLuftwaffe was nearly nonexistent as a fighting force. Provided that Taiwan could preserve its air forces in the opening hours of the attack, they could rain air power down on the landing zones with devastating effect and quick turn around while the PLAA and PLAN would be relying on carrier and mainland based sorties for air cover.
I actually disagree. An invasion is not even close to being possible and both sides know this. Russia couldn't cross rivers. 100 miles of ocean is a death sentence. There is no way to land ships against modern anti ship missiles. If China was serious about invasion they would be building a much more massive like 20x larger helicopter fleet to transport troops. But they are building a generally useful military not one optimized for invasion. Far more likely is a blockaid and ballistic missile attacks until Taiwan gives up. And countering this requires symmetrical assets not asymmetric ones. This is why Taiwan has moved towards consentrating on their own ability to threaten the Chinese mainland. It is a more effective deterrent. Amphibious landings against modern weapons are a joke proposition.
@peterisawesomeplease I agree…so tired of hearing about the military might of Russia and China. It’s been grossly exaggerated for decades.
Hey, technically, the civil war started in 1946 didn't end, there wasn't a ceasefire agreement, the civil war was simply paused by the Korean War and Korean War didn't end either.
It doesn’t take much to interrupt the ship to shore movement. Once that happens the elements on the far shore are in deep trouble.
It's not ship to shore movement you need to worry about, it's the ten thousand drones per day and PHL-16 rain you need to worry about.
@@vlhc4642Worry about both. But in the end, ship to shore will be what determines everything.
Bombing campaigns rarely ever force an enemy into submission. It's the invading force that does that job.
The most worry thing happen, if china attack taiwan it will effect ecomony the whole word, it devistate more than rusia-ukraine war.. the increase price + inflation + supply food + oil + tech suply + electronic etc its scary
@@SuperCatacata You know the word "siege" came from the Latin word "sit", as in to "siege" a fort is to sit back and wait til they surrender under your blockade.
Taiwan is an island with just 2 month of fuel, you don't actually need any bombing campaign to force them into submission. The bombing campaign just helps convince them to submit faster.
@@vlhc4642 best for China to just send special forces planted inside Taiwan in to capture DPP leadership. Then begin blockade.
I like how Taiwanese admiral left sea drones part out. Which can become the most painful point during the warfare.
This can disrupt supply and blockade military forces at no cost. Ukrainian war showed the effectiveness of that weapon.
Care to check who’s the world’s largest drone manufacturer?
@@DY-fy2jh Although China has more aerial drone capabilities and presumably that might transfer to marine drones too, it's also true that their USVs aren't going to have as much targets as Taiwan's will. Taiwan could use USVs against incoming Chinese ships.
I don't think that was a mistake. Many of the most sensitive details critical to any military operation tend not to be brought up, at least for now.
Unfortunately, China is also aware of drone capabilities. Last I heard, they were testing a supposedly civilian small cargo ship that just happens to be capable of doubling as a remote drone carrier. Not sure what's the status on that, but yeah, the future arms race looks very drone-intensive for all sides.
@@poppinc8145
Chinese are not stupid.
They will entirely crush Taiwanese military sites with millions of missiles even before any actual invasion.
Turkey already has one I believe
The trust is, Taiwan alone can never defend against China,
China is just 10x bigger and has more resources.
USA may help in a normal war, but in a long term seige, No way.
China is more than 10x bigger. More like 50x to a 100x.
Taiwan needs to talk to the Swiss about their tunnels
Do you realize Taiwan’s geology activity is 100 times fast than Europe continent?😂
Then you talk if you do.
Are you Muslim by any chance?
@@kinggamer_15😂😂😂😂
@@tonychen1062Japan manages with their Shinkansen tunnels and such, so it might be possible
Showing ones strength to an adversary and having it well known is the key to any deterrence. Many wars including much of WW2 would never have happened if the attacking side really knew what they were up against.
in ww2 the allies showed weakness through appeasement. usa was out of the picture. russia had a pact with germany. the west today shouldnt make the same mistake again.
Not quite. Hitler really was stupid enough to have started a war anyways. His generals told him it was suicide, even while the offensive in the east was still going well.
trumps whole philosophy of peace thru strength
Switzerland is mountainous and armed to the teeth. It has underground (under rock) shelters enough to house it's entire population.
Fortress Switzerland has not been successfully invaded in what... 600 years? Minefields can make life precarious for ships. And there is a proposal to nuke the three gorges dam floating around. Best idea is to not invade.
Not really this perspective doesn’t really make sense until the Germans attacked the Soviets and the Japanese attack Pearl Harbor the war was happening for 2 years before both of these events
I hope the peace can continue 🙏
It might happen. Just like how the Russia-Ukraine war started.
台湾战争一定会发生，不过我猜想不到一周就投降了，或者是围台战略
The war in Ukraine has demonstrated that unmanned aerial weapons, MANPADS and drones will play a far more significant part in any future conflicts. Taiwan should be building up these resources
Oops China is the world largest producer and exporter of Drones...
buy more DJI
@@billyong6878DJI is the biggest drone industry of China, which is banned by US government when the USArmy was trying to buy and use DJI
99% of combat drone by both sides are from China.
Taiwan has in fact supplied mortar-round carrying drones to Ukraine.
they need more modern submarines as well
Water is too shallow
Nope
They are building their homemade submarines, which will be ready for testing this Sep...
the sub model?
They need to stop becoming the pawn of the US if they don't want to die for the elites making money from these conflicts
Let's be honest, a major portion of Taiwan's strategy for dealing with China in the event of an invasion involves drawing the United States into the conflict.
Do you think India , Japan and Korea would stay out of it or get involved?
@@ramjam6934 I think Japan is already preparing for it. They have been building their military up recently. Korea would depend on what North Korea says and does. I have no idea what india would do tbh. I also don't know if any of them have a treaty with Taiwan similar to ours.
@@DanVerley I meant South Korea but yeah I imagine it would be interesting to see what either would do
I know you mean South Korea. I was saying that what South Korea does will depend on what North Korea says and does.
@@DanVerley true and vice versa
You need anti ship wall and air defense and drone defense. Long range anti ship and artillery .
A good video to recommend after I just booked a flight to Taipei 😅
Spot on... He's absolutely right. Many , small makes overwhelming very much more difficult.
I always thought they used the dam doomsday strategy to protect themselves
USA doesn't want Taiwan to have Nukes. But perhaps in the interests of peace, Taiwan could get The Rods of God up in space that would only be used when necessary.
@@dtsai I was referring to the destruction of the three gorges dam
@@AvuncularMicah That does seem like a very good deterrence strategy similar to having nukes. However, they do not yet have the capability to certainly penetrate the air defences and deal enough damage so it fails massively. Dam is a hardened structure and has many ''layers'' so it isn't even know how much damage you actually need to do for it to fail.
@@arturturkevych3816 it’s not my plan .
@@AvuncularMicah I know that it isn't:) It's a possible strategy for Taiwan to have deterrence.
informative! great production 👏👏
Learn more about the Taiwanese perspective on this matter:
ruclips.net/video/XbobiiglwD4/видео.html
dang it...why did they give it away?
... we should maybe not share this with China ...😂
Taiwan needs lots of torpedos and anti ship missiles and maybe even seamines
so many oil ships routes surround this area, seamines and torpedoes can easily backfire.
you need to come to help us
@@慧-x8nThe ship routes are mostly Chinese. I don't think many non-Chinese ships would even use the Taiwan Strait during a war scenario.
and Sea Drones
@@terrytang7641i think we would more likely ship out the people and blow up the factories
I wonder if the Chinese are watching this and taking notes 😂
呃
搞笑
和中国人关系不大，又不是平民想打仗
美国这么喜欢管别人家的事啊，闲着没事干吗
As long as there is a need to defend one's self or one's country, we are not civilized yet.
its a human thing has nothing to do with being civilized
@@millennium677
Speak for yourself.
@@dianahill5116 Man woman black white gay straight doesn’t matter who’s in charge war is in our blood and it’s a part of human nature and no matter how hard we try we can never change human nature
@@millennium677
Speak for yourself.
@@millennium677 There is no such thing as human nature. Humans behave differently across cultures. Among the Amish for example, there are nearly no reported murders. It is scarcity that creates viciousness between organisms, and it doesn't stop with humans.
Chinese: write that down write that down
不是平民想打仗的
Why mankind still sees war as an option is beyond my comprehension. 😔
All living things fight each other, including bacteria, monkeys and lions. It's just a cruel part of our nature
Do you think dialogue can solve the problem? Taiwan has revised its textbooks and completely denies that it was once "Chinese" Taiwan's geographical location makes it impossible for it to be independent... Can you imagine having a Russian island at the doorstep of the United States?
Because CCP is evil
The Wall Street Journal clearly cares more about the Taiwanese than the Americans in Hawaii.
i know the answer! cuz people in Hawaii has freedom! they will be fine, right?
@@shawnz3307 Yes, it is true to have the freedom to be burned to ashes.
And the CCP troll army cares more about fires in Hawaii than the flooding near Beijing.
Crazy world we live in. 🙁
We only care about the semiconductor industry. Move Taiwanese semiconductor companies to the US and leave the island alone.
we all have to stop chinese aggression
是内战好吧
China, just leave the island alone... we're all happy with peace
Geopolitics gonna geopolitic
USA not leaving a single nation alone and talking about peace: *Hypocrisy*
@@ThatOneRussianTankChina started messing with Taiwan first, America is just helping Taiwan defend itself
This is so scary Gosh......
The island of Taiwan's secret weapon strategy is actually the rumbling of over 600,000 Colossal Titans.
If the strategy is outdated, the US can help them upgrade their weapons.
better weapons don't win wars - usa itself lose all the time🤣
Like China did in the Korean war ahahaha with more troops even @@bobevans9996
don't forget that Japan is almost finished establishing its 'Missile Wall' in North-East of Taiwan
never heard that before, what's that?
theyre plonking missiles on their southern islands near taiwan which china, has claims to itself.@@xDomglmao
@@xDomglmao a term I believe was said by Johnny Harris on Japan heavily militarizing the Ryukyu Island Chain where they installed Long Range Missiles capable of reaching the Taiwan Strait or the mainland China.
reference: ruclips.net/video/plHRRFHZ_f0/видео.html
thanks to both of you! @@monoken
the question: will they involved?
Taiwan isn't recognized as a sovereign nation by most of the world. " Only a handful of countries officially recognize Taiwan as a sovereign state. These countries include Belize, Guatemala, Haiti, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Paraguay, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, São Tomé and Príncipe, and Vatican City."
stand with free Taiwan 💪
Nah
When PRC attack, ROC must show they can hold the island on its own during the early stage of the fight, if not USA may also bomb TSMC facilities to prevent PRC get hold of the facilities. Potentially getting bomb by both enemy and friend. What a tough position.
I have never thought of bombing tsmc, that is crazy. Considering this means PRC loses either way.
😁美国轰炸台湾是对中国的战争行为，你考虑过后果吗?我们的对等报复，就是清理掉日本韩国中的美军基地，而且事先向全世界通报。
TSMC has been known to have self-destruct mechanism in the event of war. To prevent technology transfer to any invading party.
I thunk they already put selfdestruct button at the facility..just in case of attack
US will force TSMC move to US before the war. And offer green card to engineers and their families..
Taiwan: Why thank you WSJ, I guess we die now.
Why not both? As we shift our focus to the pacific, we should be able to access hundreds of billions in more funding to put towards taiwans defense.
Why not? It’s not like Americans need those billions for infrastructure, healthcare or housing….
koreanistan vietnamnistan afghanistan ukrainistan taiwanistan
usanistan - the end
money cant solve that, in spite of what your reddit education tells you. 700BN is put towards ending homelessness, biden just signed 100bn infrastructure, and we put more of our taxes to healthcare than any other country.@@angus7278
Taiwan needs to hide weapon assets in shipping containers. Very hard to pick out which to destroy if there are tens of thousands of them.
I don’t know if Mainland China wants to invade Taiwan, but I know the Americans won’t be spilling blood and steel to defend Taiwan. Just look at the homeless drug addicts in SF and you’ll know what a disaster we are in here.
They could also use mobile semi autonomous underwater cruise missile batteries using liquid fuel propulsion.
Also semi autonomous underwater long range torpedoes. They could automatically surface to recharge their batteries once a month, using a thin film solar panels on their surface.
Also about 200,000 drones with AI vision and object targeting with autonomous engagement.
You clearly dont know what is blockade. No shipping route for taiwan during wartime.
Always be prepared, but I think China learned it's lesson in the 1950's to not invade Taiwan.
I am following Kings & Generals' Pacific campaign that was fought between Japan and the Allies. It's mind boggling how many amphibious assaults both sides conducted throughout the campaign. And in between those assaults, you have the successful ones, the not-so-successful ones, and the failed ones. Then there were so many battles fought just to resupply the armies already landed. From the Japanese side, you have the early 1942 campaigns where they conducted so many amphibious landings all around the Pacific - from Philippines, to Malaya, to Dutch East Indies, Guam, Wake, and so on. And then the US did the same from Guadacanal to the Pacific islands, all through Iwojima and Okinawa.
And that's just the Pacific campaign - there were amphibious operations done in the European theater too by the Allies - the North African landing, the Sicilian landing, the South France landing, and of course the famed Normandy landing. Even Germany conducted some amphibious assault in their invasion of Norway and the airborne operations of Cretan assault. The amount of experience accumulated by not just the US but Japan and other belligerents in amphibious assaults were immense.
Meanwhile, China has conducted 0 amphibious assault in modern time. Can they excel in their first try by just learning from military history? If the generals and its officers were first rate students and implementers of those studies, maybe?
In fact, what you call those experiences have long been lost in the dust of history, and modern Westerners only have the experience of the war on terror, and everyone is at the same starting line in the great power war
Ignore the trolls, every year the number of people in China who believes Taiwan is not part of China increases. I lived in Beijing until 2018, and most people then were "nationalistic" on this matter. Ever since I left practically all Chinese I talk to uses VPN and talks very openly about "Taiwan is already an independent country without recognition" and jokes about "I would rather have Taiwan passport than China passport". My prediction is Taiwan (as an independent nation) is going to outlive the PRC, and the next government of China will most likely give up this issue.
大部分都支持统一台湾！
🤣🤣🤣🤣 The people running Taiwan province is completely delusional and drinking too much US Kool-aid.
Putin's failure to defeat Ukraine, and the West's united response against his aggression, have undoubtedly helped the cause of a free Taiwan.
😂😂😂 🤡🤡🤡
I think Russia is just playing limited war games in Ukraine....
China will never attack Taiwan unless one of the following 1 Taiwan declares referendum on independence 2 develope its own nuclear program 3 external forces to assist in the island independence. ... if none of that... stay clam and carry on
What happen to HongKong? Communlist China cant be trusted.
interesting how his strategy speaks to the individual warrior on the battlefield in the 21st century. Many small units with some real punch doing major work.
If the PLA lands on Taiwan, asymmetrical warfare is the only hope Taiwan has. However, Taiwan needs enough anti-ship, surface to air, and surface to surface missiles to defeat any PLA force from landing on Taiwan. These missiles need to be stocked on Taiwan, dispersed across the island. PLA ships should have to run an impenetrable gauntlet to reach the island.
How can the U.S. refuse to recognize Puerto Rico as a soveriegn nation, but they do for Taiwan?
Because in open and free elections, Puerto Ricans overwhelmingly reject independence. The only real debate there is whether to keep the status quo or whether to apply for statehood.
American gave up Taiwan to China. They should take responsibility for that.
There a good reason why the US and her allies in the region are making a new island defensive chain system. The goal of it to basically dismantle the China navy during it invasion. Making China force to choose between striking at a American carrier strike force or the defensive front that can do not only cripple but has the potential to stop the invasion with short range strikes onto it fleet.
You mean like the QUAD? Where Japan was vocal about not interfering (Orianna Skylar) for fear of retribution? Or India, who's best buds with Russia?
That's why Aukus was formed btw, no one in Asia is going to fight US wars lol
@@accountantthe3394India might have close relations with Russia, but that has never been true for the Chinese.
@@paulcruz168lmao??? The Chinese and Russian are kinda buddies. Many believe in India and abroad like you that USSR or Russia has always been a friend to India... But do you know a very lesser known fact? Just before the 1962 Indo China war.. The Chinese Premiere spoke to the Russian Premier and informed him that a possible invasion of India was brewing. The Russian Premier Delayed the delivery of Mig 21s to India which cost us the war. It was one of Russia's deliberate attempts to Please Beijing and choose Beijing over NCR(National Capital Region of India). If an imminent war breaks out now..... Then India will have to face China alone without Russian help. This is exactly the reason why India is steadily shifting towards the West and also Arab and African nations and even SEA and Australia, Japan, Korea.
The strategy should be to cause massive losses to the PLA when crossing the strait, to prevent the PLA gaining a toehold on the Island.
The PLA isn't going to blindly rush across the strait like Gallipoli or even Normandy.
PLA can easily lose 10 thousand drones a day crossing the strait
Can Taiwan afford to lose 10 thousand SAM a day?
@@yeetericus113 lol, wow,.
First Taiwan isn't where all transistors come from, Taiwan makes most 5nm and below processing chips used in phones and GPUs, and drones processors use 28nm chips, maybe 14nm at most, and the vast majority of chips are power transistors, power regulators and radio modules that uses even bigger nodes. In other words nobody need Taiwan to build drones.
Second China is one of the worlds largest maker of 28nm chips, has been mass producing 14nm for a few years now and just started mass producing 7nm. DJI has been under US sanctions for 2 years now, did they care?
Three, drones needs a lot more than just chips, you need cameras, radios, batteries, motors, motor drivers, and composites. Taiwan has none, its' all China.
The only way Taiwan can build any drone is to buy from Aliababa, infact they had a scandal last year where they had to send their military drone to mainland China for repairs.
@@vlhc4642 China doesn't have 10 thousand drones with the range to cross the Taiwan strait. The cheap commercial quad copter and small fixed wing drones being used in Ukraine can't travel anywhere close to that far. And you don't need SAMs to counter drones. Ukraine is very effectively countering slow moving drones with small arms fire and mounted machine gun fire (anti aircraft guns). The German supplied Gepard anti aircraft gun is very effective.
@@user-ow1bn6qv8qis it effective or did the MSM said it is effective ?
Bro predicted the future
Even small army can defeat bigger army by right plan and technology.
中国制造能力超强 二战时期全拉满都比不上现在的中国 直接发射火箭炮和导弹 把台湾打烂就行了
It’s not getting mentioned much but the Panama Canal is experiencing a lot of issues. The Pacific Ocean sits higher than the Atlantic so ships need to pass thru 3 lock gates. Due to droughts only 32 ships can pass thru a day with draft or weight limits in place to preserve fresh water. This could seriously limit the US ability to resupply or move assets
What do you mean by the Pacific Ocean sits higher than the Atlantic Ocean? I know the lock gates are there to level the boats with the fresh water lakes in Panana but I'm curious to know your answer to my question.
True but the fact that you know this means the US military already has it figured out.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. 👍
The naval assets we'd need to put china in its place are already in the Pacific. This isn't 1945 when most of US assets were centered on the East Coast. We have major bases in Philippines, Japan, Korea, already. They would all be attacked preemptively by china if they expect to survive more than a week. (Those attacks would also result in a defacto state of war between China and S Korea, China and Japan, and China and Philippines- forcing china to stretch its resources even further).
Not to mention bases in the remote pacific islands like Guam midway Hawaii etc.
Unlike any other major nation, the US doesn't really need to fear direct attack on its homeland. That means we can send large portions of our collective assets to one region, and not leave ourselves open to attack.
So many nations rely on the US for their national security so if the US is actually attacked (as it would be if china invaded taiwan) many would immediately come to the aid of the Americans. Australia is in a similar position as S. Korea and Japan, concerned over China's aggression. I believe they would similarly step in as they've been building up their military as well in preparation of this conflict. The UK joins us in most of our wars anyway. Should Aus be directly engaged, then the UK would be as well. In a defensive war such as this, Canada and Germany would similarly join.
Obviously all would if Article 5 is activated but IIRC it is not automatically activated if the attack on a NATO nation occurs outside the north Atlantic. However, most nato nations wouldn't care about that distinction in the event of a sizable attack such this.
Finally, trumping all those factors is one simple factor: microchips. For some stupid reason, no one realized what a stupid idea it is to have all the world's microchips made in one spot. Even if that one spot were as safe as, idk... Kansas, it would still be an all eggs, one basket situation.
Now let's put that basket right next to our biggest rival. Granted we didn't know they'd be our biggest rival until about 10 or 20 yrs ago, but still we knew they sought to recapture taiwan.
Regardless, we've had at least a decade to start building those microchip plants here. Some would be coming online now had we done so. But we are really only starting to do so now.
Bc we've allowed our internal squabbles dominate our focus. Even when we aren't squabbling domestically, large portions of us say we need to only focus on ourselves and stop policing the world. Which is true, of course, but we don't have that luxury yet.
I fear we adapt too slowly sometimes. This is such an enormous ship - by far the biggest ever built - this ship of state turns very slowly. It accelerates slowly. It's slow to stop. And its captain is never the best person for captain; its captain is the person best at becoming captain.
@@burtan2000 WOW! That was an outstanding reply / comment, well done! 👍
China thank you for the presentation
We are currently seeing in Ukraine how anti-ship missiles can be a cheap, powerful deterrent against navies. The Russian Black Sea fleet won't come within 150 km of the Ukrainian controlled coast.
PLA does not need to take the entire Taiwan. What stopped them from partitioning the island?
Becouse that would probably be the worst case nightmare scenario for the PLA. First they take heavy losses landing and taking a part of Taiwan, and now not only do they have to deal with local insurgencies, but there is still a part of the island where the enemy has their forces and can constantly launch small attacks on your positions. They either don't land at all or take the whole thing, anything in between would be a huge pain.
Taiwan is an independent country period.
Taiwan is an inseparable part of china
and they all lived happily ever after
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China's population and military are so large that heavy casualties on the Communists' side would be accepted as "cost of business." Even a credible nuclear threat might not dissuade China. Suppose the war escalated to a nuclear exchange between the United States and China. A Minuteman or Trident missile strike against a handful of military targets and a city of two would amount to a tolerable "population adjustment," especially since in China, unlike the West, the survival of the community is culturally and legally ranked far above the rights of the individual. On the other hand, were a Chinese nuclear warhead to detonate anywhere in the United States, the actual damage and the emotional and cultural toll would be far higher for us. We need to make a decision. If China invades Taiwan, we can take no action and leave it be, which has some very unpleasant consequences. If we decide to intervene, it cannot be a politically limited strike. It has to be an all-out attack, destroying Chinese targets on land and at sea, and even attacks on Beijing and other key cities, specifically targeting Command, Communication and Control centers without let-up. If the Chinese warned they would unleash nuclear weapons, we would have to communicate that our nuclear strike would not be limited to a "population adjustment." We would be ready to use enough arsenal to turn the 50 largest Chinese cities into molten glass and much of China into a wasteland, including targeting food growing regions. Then we would offer China a way to save face and declare victory while withdrawing its forces from Taiwan.
Taiwan (Republic of China) already belongs to the People's Republic China the way that Hawaii belongs to the USA or the northern part of Ireland belongs to England, or French Polynesia belongs to France and US Micronesia belongs to the USA. What the people there want is entirely irrelevant.
Talking about an acceptable level of casualties with the Communist Party? You are too young for that.
You paint a bone chilling image. I hope it doesn't come to that.
The average PLA soldier or sailor is likely to be from a one chid family. Throwing their lives away in human waves like they did in Korea in the 50s is no longer feasible. And that is only on the military side. More one child families will be looking for an answer from the CCP if Taiwan retaliated by launching missiles against Chinese cities. The one child policy is one of the best deterrents against a profligate waste of lives that any invasion would involve.
U really think China can't inflict this same level nuclear retaliation on return. China's nuclear arsenal is growing at an alarming level. They will have 1000 nukes soon. And they will be able turn 50 American cities back to the stone age in return
The idiocy of mankind is truly astounding. Instead of peace and prosperity, help and solidarity to each other we rather spend money or wars.
cheapest solutions are Best Solutions. Cheap anti ship Drones & Manpads can do enormous damage to PLA, PLAN efforts to takeover without collateral damages. Make this war very hard & expensive for CCP with body bags going back into Mainland
I agree 👍
FOR WINNING PEOPLE'S LOSER ARMY NEEDS TO FIGHT & I DOUBT THEIR REAL FIGHTING ABILITIES 😅😅😅😅😅.
The Ukrainian maritime drones used in the black sea could also be very useful for Taiwan
added sinophobia would be a welcome too
Do you have any clue just how many drone boats China can build in a single day?
Some martial arts don't work in the streets. Some strategies don't work in the straits
What if Chinese fire 1000+ missiles at once.
Then global boycott and China economy collapses. Those missiles would end up destroying China, not Taiwan.
war is not a game. It doesnt work this way if you fire everything at once taiwan will hide a lot away. Its very ineffective
Nukes are cheaper if we go that way.
And effects will be more about equal.
So launching 1000+ missiles simultaneously is kinda stupid and expensive.
@@ajaykumarsingh702 ww3 will be started.
看发什么1000多枚大型的导弹估计可以台湾炸平
The US military will never directly engage the PLA.. exactly how they're not engaging Russian military in Ukraine.. seems what ever China does, they will dominate Taiwan. If not at first physically occupied on the ground, given enough time economically choking all goods in/out of the island, the Taiwanese will have no choice but to completely surrender
It sounds sad, but it's true.
after pelosi's visit PLA navy did a simulated sea blockade and no foreign ships dared to sail close to taiwan.. same will happen in eventual reunification and it'll be quick and hopefully peaceful
明白人啊
我住在中国十二年多, 但也有很多台湾朋友。 我对这种情况感到难过@@_liberty8821
I don't even need to watch your video. I knew all of those bullpool
I like call of duty too
Only Love can end wars
Not true. Violence also ends wars.
The best defense is for Taiwan to develop nuclear weapons. NATO could easily crush Russia but it dares not because of Russia's nuclear arsenal. Taiwan is very advanced. It would be pretty simple for them to do it on their own.
That is true, but just imagine what could happen if China discovered it before its complete. It could trigger an instant invasion. If it was sucessful it would guarantee their safety, but its way too risky.
Taiwan tried and were like 1 year away to be capable to pump out nuclear weapon in late 1980s. Guess who found out and forced Taiwan to stop the program? U.S. ofc. And that's that. Too bad really as Taiwan with nuke would be the strongest ally U.S. has on China issue.
I love when people denial about "nato is strong.. could easly fight russia.. best army.. blahblahblah" but in reality nato just no action talk only LOL
@@privacyhelp Being "all talk" means its working as intended. NATO exists primarily to provide peace trough deterrence. Nobody dares to invade a nation which is a part of NATO becouse it would lead to said nation getting completely overwhelmed the second the article 5 gets invoked, and as such there was never a need for NATO to go in guns blazing against somoene.
@@bleflar9183 peace? LOL nato basically a tool to control german
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If the US leaves the status quo alone, nothing will happen, but my deepest fear is that the US has never had a history of non interference in main regional issues. But the key is really that the government leaders of Taiwan stay firm for the good of the people.
Best insight so far. Wish the world is filled with people who can think like you instead of zombies that shout Uncle Sam wherever they go.
Taiwan's only hope is to:
1. Enhance its own littoral and coastal defence force by means of using cost effective and asymmetric warfare platforms like coastal defence mini-submarines (120-500 tons), shore-based anti- missile defense systems, drones (surveillance, combat, & kamikaze), naval mines, ground-based air defense systems (long-range, medium-range, & short-range), man-portable weapons ( ATGMs and MANPADs), mobile artilleries (MLRS), and decoys.
2. Build more well concealed and underground bunkers for the storage of provisions, logistics, shelter, etc.
3. Store necessary much needed provisions and logistics.
4. Ask for help/support to the US
Taiwan's only hope is to stop inviting the evil and sit down with China. Do you know what's Taiwan's language? It's called Mandarin Chinese. They are the same people. Stop being tricked by the imperialist with the divide and conquer tactic.
5. Not to ever declare independence.
@@JHSN1825that won't prevent a china invasion
You can scratch number 1 through 3, it's just 4, always has been, always will be.
@@vlhc4642 not true, with enough missiles Taiwan could seriously sink the whole Chinese navy
Excellent
It seems USA can always find a place they want to help and somehow that place always end up in ruined. Maybe the problem is either Taiwan or China. Just saying...
True but most likely Taiwan will be more affected instead of mainland China.
@@universalcompilations1662
taiwan war will be in usa
russia n china will support cuba texas or whole south puetorico hawaii
russia will come down alaska n mexico come up california
china can support the red indians n natives in newzealand n australia
usa is full of holes - no need to touch taiwan/asia
Leave Taiwan alone! 😢
I'd like to see the state of China's economy in about five years, ten years.
China's demographics are showing a rapidly aging population.
Will they actually have the capability to do it? Another COVID outbreak?
The ramp-up to mounting an invasion from the Mainland, or man-made islands, would be so obvious as to allow the US Navy and Air Force to get into position.
Crossing the expansion of the Strait is a heck of a lot wider than the English Channel.
The big question for me is, why would China risk destroying a territory, through warfare, that is trying to acquire? Make no sense.
According to the constitution of Taiwan or Mainland China, Taiwan is a province belongs to China.(Republic of China (Taiwan) or People's Republic of China (CCP))
Actually China just needs to cut off the water supply and Taiwan will have issues with their strawberry army 😂
China's policy: Taiwan is part of China, and the People's Republic of China is the sole representative government of China, as recognized on paper by the international community, even by the United States in the Declaration on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations between China and the United States. The best way to resolve the Taiwan issue is through peaceful consultation and shelving the issue, but the use of force is not ruled out. Analysis: If the U.S. chooses to keep hyping this topic, and Taiwan's leaders keep following this independent move, war is inevitable. All along, both the Mainland and Taiwan have the option of shelving this topic, and as long as the leaders of Taiwan do not discuss independence and do not follow the United States every day, nothing will actually happen to Taiwan, which is actually a very good solution, that is, shelving the issue.
It’s wild to see literal CCP shilling being left untouched by RUclips mods. This is a western website, why do we allow such propaganda? Anyway the CCP has NEVER governed Taiwan, not even for one second
Basically you said “as long as Taiwan bows down and becomes a vassal of Emperor Winnie Pooh, they will be fine” like no one wants that, you learnt this last election when your pro mainland politician lost
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For now, China will not send its military to invade Taiwan. China will take at least ten years to build up more ships, submarines, more planes etc. They are also wary of the US sponsored military alliances and bases around them. At this point of time, they can only irritate by sending its ships and planes into Taiwanese waters and airspace. All that siren warnings is good enough to send fear, disrupt daily economic activities. Nations and governments must seek peace.
In ten years' time, their population will be 10 years older. They have to do this in next 2-3 years, or else their window of opportunity is gone.
All 差不多 in quality.....
The PLN isn't what one would call a modern navy. When I was in the USN; we were constantly having to chase China out of the territorial waters of other countries, where they didn't belong.
@@manofsan well then, shall we all be prepared for the worse case scenario? Who will then provide humanitarian aid, host the refugees etc?
@@Michaelong29 humanitarian aid for the aggressors? no thanks. great way to motivate them to stop attacking if your populace is starving
@@manofsan Taiwan's age demographic isn't that different from China's, though so it's a rather strange argument. Unless the taiwanese start youthening their population there's only a very small advantage at best for Taiwan not enough to make a difference if China can improve fleet capability and internal stability before the attack.
So, you guys know better then? Last I checked, Ukraine stopped using Western tactics because it's not helping them. Taiwan would be wise to learn from that, or better still, try to make sure no war occurs.
Western tactics require air support lol
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I’m convinced that the US should give Taiwan a combination of 250 Pershing missiles and stealthy
Cruise missiles. Then give them a minimum of 2000 anti-ship missiles.
*THE EIGHT NOBLE ENDEAVORS*
Every freedom loving country needs people willing to form Grassroots Organizations/Movements.
1) To ensure that our politicians aren't putting the interests of the CCP above our own countries.
2) To support human rights, and preserve freedom & democracy around the world; from the CCP-PLA's undue influences and harm.
3) To elect politicians who will be on the right side of history.
4) To develop tough on China legislation.
5) To expose and weed out CCP corruption abroad.
6) To foster the fraternity of NATO Nations.
7) To stop China stealing land and resources
8) ....anything else necessary.
*This is a conversation we all need to be having with each other.*
I especially like number 8.
You sir are an intelligent individual, this is coming from a person on RUclips.
The CCP is an extremely corrupt and efficient force, they are the super baddies that make terrible bridges, poisoned baby powder, and immense human rights abuses by making CCTV CCP City
Totally agree🙏❤👍
Avoiding a war is definitely the best case scenario for Taiwan. Unfortunately, the US defense contractors, the bankers, the politicians, and the corporate press would benefit much more if they could provoke China into attacking.
This is a ridiculous statement. There's money in any preparation. Plenty of companies and governments invest in fire prevention because the economics support it. No one is banking on more fires to sell fire extinguishers. The Taiwan situation is a potentially nuclear one. No nuclear powers have ever gone to war, and the world isn't banking on risking one for money. We're simply stuck in a bad standoff, with no side willing to back off.
This is absolutely true! USA would do anything to maintain the bully of the world!
受益什么，都说过了，不打代理人战争，挑事直接打美国，天天穿着件绅士的衣服，做着强盗的事，包装的再好，时间长了，谁也看清了
TAIWAN NUMBER ONE
i don't think taiwanese has the determination to perform guerrilla warfare or something like that. the biggest obstacle to china is always the international reaction, not taiwan itself
How about deploying nukes in Taiwan?
Provoke the Chinese to destroy each other? West's evil genocidal plan?
That is probably the only way to deter China.
u forgot about the cuban crisis do u?
then there is nothing to gain for winning the war
US won’t allow Taiwan to trigger a nuclear war by itself. Washington has stopped Taiwan from developing its own nukes 3 times. Read the article Taiwan’s dire strait from Mearsheimer.
China:
I see. I see. *Takes notes*
it all depends on the willingness of china regarding own human losses. lets say china does not care at all, they just drop a few 100k soldiers over the island. a few 10ks might die, at the same time attack with warplanes and warships. if china just throws in the bodies, taiwan can do nothing to fully repel it. if china wants to minimize casualties, then its quite a tricky endevour. i think you cannot overtake taiwan with accepting many losses. its just a too small and crowded space.
we can make more than 10 milliion drones like Russian lancet in just one month, 10k might die ? you know nothing about drone super power
not at all.. drones will do most of the work
you don't know how important the strategical position of Taiwan for China, if China lost Taiwan, then that's a big potential threat for the safety of China.
drones? flying ones? no i mean if china drops this amount of soldier within the same day. like operation normandie. drones wont help. taiwan will get simply overrun but china suffers extreme losses. as i say, china is able to do that if they want to. @@blowindzhang6795
In Japan, the legend of the Divine Wind that stopped the mongel invasion is legendary. Fighting over the land is one thing, but getting there across the sea is much harder. Many PLA will die in the crossing with missiles and subs.
Their strategy is still in the 1970s, while their equipments are mostly old trashes from 1940s to 1960s... Imagine using WW2 submarine in 2023
The cost to China is the big thing here. Losing that many young men could cause major problems for social stability.
台湾有事は日本有事
Japan is nobody to anyone on the table
@@kaichang2059そして日本有事はアメリカ有事
@@patapata2023 I don't think the United States cares much about its pet dog's feelings.
@@kaichang2059 32年連続世界1位で418兆という巨額の対外純資産国である日本、更に2100兆円を超えているとされる巨額な個人金融資産😾
経済資産大国🇯🇵😾
アメリカ人が汗水垂らして出す日本への利子配当も巨額だ🫵😾
@@kaichang2059そしてアメリカ有事はNATO有事
This is not an invasion, Taiwan is an autonomous province of China, like Tibet.
Taiwan never received paperwork or contract proving its independence.
Because the PRC stated they'd invade Taiwan if they declared formal independence.
This is we need a NATO pacific. Taiwan, Japan, Korea, Australia, and the US.
When Kruschev tried to put nukes on Cuba, Kennedy ordered a naval blockade of that island. Kruschev backed down, he had to. The other alternative would be WWIII. Taiwan is just another Cuba with one difference, both Taiwan and China consider Sun Yat-Sen as the father of modern China, both are Chinese with Chinese blood, use Chinese names, language, customs, celebrate the same festivities, share the same history. That's why it's best for both to reunite peacefully, no matter how long that would take
-Yan Yuan
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What allies need is to blocked oil going to China from the east and they will dry very soon and not able to continue the war effort. Oil blockade is very easy to do, so China need to think before launching invasion like that.
This is exactly why China is switching to Russia for energy supply
Update ur news, China is not dependent on the west for energy.. that would be suicide
@@DY-fy2jh Russia doesn't have enough oil for China. China needs 18mbpd, Russia can export 7mbpd.
@@barryraymond9004 中国可以考虑在全面新能源转型后进攻。
Yes, then the Western economy collapsed and the dollar hegemony collapsed