Great video. I've been a train driver in Australia since 1990 and EMD 567 powered locos with roots blowers were common then. Quite a number still operate now with different train companies since the government rail freight businesses in most states were all privatised in the 1990's. We still have lots of EMD 645 and 710 powered locos.
I've always loves the wind up sound of these engines. I've toured the GM's EMD (Electro Motive Division) plant in La Grande Illinois where they produced many of these engines. I simply can't believe how clean and well cared for were the engines featured in this video clip. Very nice to see and hear the startup and care for this equipment.
There were 16 NOHAB locomotives brought to Australia around 2007 purchased secondhand from DSB in Denmark, they were EMD645E3 two stroke turbo charged V20's. Many Australian rail enthusiasts considered them ugly, they had a typical European cab control layout unfamiliar to Australian loco crews. They were called the 1400 (MZ) class (1427 to 1446) and were very heavy on fuel consumption. There is some video of them on my site. Very few remain in service today, all are owned by Qube Logistics. Great video and those two loco's look very nice, thank you for sharing.
Probably the Nohabs in the video do look much more familiar to Australian eyes, as these were based on the VR B class locomotives. Controls are the general EMD pedestal layout.
Awesome insight. Question. Usa not real rail fan here but did those have the setup where the turbo was gear driven off the crank at lower speeds (to act in place of the tyoical roots blower on two stoke diesels) then the over run clutch let it spool up on exhaust gas when at speed? Some facinating things can be done when weight and size arent constrained as well as cost and longevity are not like in the automotive field
@@bobbysenterprises3220 The MZ class, not featured in this video, did. These had 645 engines, and like the later 710 most of these were turbocharged, although a few 567 powered locomotives like the GP20 did have turbochargers. But the 567 engines in this video were similar to those in first gen EMD diesels. These have roots blowers purely for the scavenging of the cylinders. In a 2 stroke diesel where the exhaust and intake take place at the same moment when the piston is near or at BDC a forced airflow is needed to push exhaust gasses out and replace them with fresh air, the blower did not provide any additional boost.
@@bobbysenterprises3220 Turbo or Roots style supercharger depended on application. As other mentioned, a two stroke diesel needs forced air scavenging air to start / run. The supercharger was more used in switching applications, faster boost pressure / response and turbos in road locomotives or in stationary applications. Such as this 710-V20, 3.5MW peaking generator, with the gear driven turbo you asked about. Idles at 450 RPM and ramps to 900 RPM (60Hz application) when on line. I forget how much boost pressure it ran, but it was a power adder, not just for scavenging. We had two 710 V20s, built around 2000, no emissions equipment and then two turbocharged V16 567s - 2MW each and two turbocharged V16 645s 2.5MW each from the 60's. V20 710 start up, using twin air starters. There's videos of the 567s and an old Worthington on my channel too. But love the EMD sound... ruclips.net/video/hFVJ9Lhhm0I/видео.html
Elsker de to eksempler på liveri de to maskiner har, Nohab demonstrator grøn liveri og NSB rød med stribe på siden, det klæder dem godt. bedste hilsner fra Danmark!
2 great looking classic locomotives. The Green livery is better looking but the Red one has the cool looking snow plow and was built the year I was born.
While the visability seems poor compared to the newest passenger trains i encourage anyone who has not at least stand in a seam loco. Even a small one. Amd compare the visibility. I reciently looked out the cab of a BigBoy. I would describe it as driving your bedroom down the road with no window on the leading end
You just popped up on my feed, watched, liked and subscribed! You can't beat those grand old ladies from NOHAB, stylish and a sound to match! What happened to locomotive design!? 🥺😥😭 Done many miles behind the Di3, between Storlien and Trondheim! Still remember hearing them for 10 minutes coming uphill, passing the border at Stora Helvetet(?).... Greetings from a Swede in Glasgow, Scotland! 🍻
For me, there was always an awesome look to these locomotives. My first time close to one of these EMD locomotives, was when my elementary class to a ride from Milwaukee to Racine Wisconsin and back, in the 1960's, on the Milwaukee Road. I noticed in the video, that it was vert quiet inside the cab.
IIRC the C variant of the EMD16V567 was pioneered by Clyde engineering in Australia. I read that in a publication 20 years ago and posted what I just wrote on an enthusiast forum 16 years ago. Even back then the detractors pounced with their unrelenting invectives that obviously play the man rather than the ball so to speak. They stopped when I eventually found the publication, and posted the volume, issue and page number. All I got in return naturally enough was deafening silence. Anyway part (not all) of the C variant upgrade was a power increase to 1800hp (in Australia) and a structural reworking of the crankcase to reduce cracking that became apparent in the 1500hp versions . Loving the three double slip switches.
Now the 567 C was used in the GM class 13 and greater, the 6 traction motor variants if I remember correctly? These Norwegian locos reminded me of the GM locos!
I have been an engineer for 30 years that sounds like a gp 38-2 here in the U.S. Interesting to see the different control stand. My great grandfather was from Oslo, cool video.
@jeffreymcfadden9403 Oof! I'm slippin. That's a rookie mistake!😁 Anyway the engineroom was full of dirt and grease. The Engineer who's nickname was "Smitty" told me the unit w/2 sisters was off train EF-2, (Elkhart-Ft.Wayne). He said he hated to get them bec they were usually "unreliable junk." Yr was 1972.
I got a ride in front of one of these engines in 1988 I guess... One of the very last rides on Fagernesbanen... And I was allowed to press the horn. Guess I was 7 at the time! :)
Surprised by the backwards pressure gauge, was going to ask about the grill on the windows, except you answered that one, thanks. Makes cleaning the window a lot harder.
I wish more vehicle engines had at least a reasonable way to pre and even post oil. Things like that and more corrosion resistance would have a greater ecological impact than people rushing out to buy more eco friendly vehicles
The grilles on the windshields is not a Ghetto-Grill but a guard against falling rock and icicles in tunnels, I guess. (Oh, I wrote this before the guys said it)
"Ghetto-Grill: That immediately reminded me of a true story; told in one of my "stories from a locomotive engineer" book. I can't remember if the cab in the story had a window grille. Some clowns pitched a bottle from an overpass--It flew through the window on the engineer's side; shattering into jagged pieces. One of the pieces severed a neck artery, and he fell over; profusely bleeding. The conductor applied pressure; but the poor man bled out. Dead. I don't know if they caught the offender(s). Was it the broken window; or broken bottle? I'll have to reread the story; it's been a few years. Tragic; but it highlights the importance of a window grille in some areas of the States.
When a railway museum is allowed to run their equipment on national rail, you’re required to have a back up so you do not plug up the rest of the current operations in progress if something fails. Most countries seem to do this.
Great video. I've been a train driver in Australia since 1990 and EMD 567 powered locos with roots blowers were common then. Quite a number still operate now with different train companies since the government rail freight businesses in most states were all privatised in the 1990's. We still have lots of EMD 645 and 710 powered locos.
I was crazy about these locomotives when I was a child... and I still am!!!
This is great.
I've always loves the wind up sound of these engines. I've toured the GM's EMD (Electro Motive Division) plant in La Grande Illinois where they produced many of these engines. I simply can't believe how clean and well cared for were the engines featured in this video clip. Very nice to see and hear the startup and care for this equipment.
Me too.
Lovely to see these old ladies still running and looking great. They look just like when they first left the factory👍
As a hungarian its a honor seeing a original nohab loco in its home country❤
Beautiful locos👍and wonderful to see them so well-preserved. Congratulations guys
Love the contrast of ‘then and now’ at 13:20. Each era has its own beauty!🔥❤️
There were 16 NOHAB locomotives brought to Australia around 2007 purchased secondhand from DSB in Denmark, they were EMD645E3 two stroke turbo charged V20's. Many Australian rail enthusiasts considered them ugly, they had a typical European cab control layout unfamiliar to Australian loco crews. They were called the 1400 (MZ) class (1427 to 1446) and were very heavy on fuel consumption. There is some video of them on my site. Very few remain in service today, all are owned by Qube Logistics. Great video and those two loco's look very nice, thank you for sharing.
Probably the Nohabs in the video do look much more familiar to Australian eyes, as these were based on the VR B class locomotives. Controls are the general EMD pedestal layout.
Awesome insight. Question. Usa not real rail fan here but did those have the setup where the turbo was gear driven off the crank at lower speeds (to act in place of the tyoical roots blower on two stoke diesels) then the over run clutch let it spool up on exhaust gas when at speed? Some facinating things can be done when weight and size arent constrained as well as cost and longevity are not like in the automotive field
@@bobbysenterprises3220 The MZ class, not featured in this video, did.
These had 645 engines, and like the later 710 most of these were turbocharged, although a few 567 powered locomotives like the GP20 did have turbochargers.
But the 567 engines in this video were similar to those in first gen EMD diesels.
These have roots blowers purely for the scavenging of the cylinders. In a 2 stroke diesel where the exhaust and intake take place at the same moment when the piston is near or at BDC a forced airflow is needed to push exhaust gasses out and replace them with fresh air, the blower did not provide any additional boost.
@@bobbysenterprises3220 Turbo or Roots style supercharger depended on application. As other mentioned, a two stroke diesel needs forced air scavenging air to start / run. The supercharger was more used in switching applications, faster boost pressure / response and turbos in road locomotives or in stationary applications. Such as this 710-V20, 3.5MW peaking generator, with the gear driven turbo you asked about. Idles at 450 RPM and ramps to 900 RPM (60Hz application) when on line. I forget how much boost pressure it ran, but it was a power adder, not just for scavenging. We had two 710 V20s, built around 2000, no emissions equipment and then two turbocharged V16 567s - 2MW each and two turbocharged V16 645s 2.5MW each from the 60's.
V20 710 start up, using twin air starters. There's videos of the 567s and an old Worthington on my channel too. But love the EMD sound...
ruclips.net/video/hFVJ9Lhhm0I/видео.html
Turbos on MZ locomotives made them extremely noisy
Wow, that's a real engineer who can still handle that air stalk!!! That is so cool that the locomotive still has that!!
Thank you for this rare insight into the bowels of the NOHABs. Every friend of Marklin models will love it.
Marklin always does a superb job with their models.
God I love that sound!!! 567 is unbeatable!
Tis’ a symphony..😊❤️
Excellent! A really enjoyable video, very well produced. The locos seem to have been very well maintained and are a credit to the Museum.
Excellent video, thank you for posting!
Elsker de to eksempler på liveri de to maskiner har, Nohab demonstrator grøn liveri og NSB rød med stribe på siden, det klæder dem godt. bedste hilsner fra Danmark!
Super , well taken care of I am just delighted to view how wonderful the excellent condition.
You sure do keep the equipment in good order! Our locomotives are only 15 years old but don't look nearly as clean!
2 great looking classic locomotives. The Green livery is better looking but the Red one has the cool looking snow plow and was built the year I was born.
die rote Lock sieht aber etwas komisch aus. So als wäre nur eine rote Rostschutzfarbe drauf. Ich komme vorbei und lackiere sie Rot-Metallic😊
While the visability seems poor compared to the newest passenger trains i encourage anyone who has not at least stand in a seam loco. Even a small one. Amd compare the visibility. I reciently looked out the cab of a BigBoy. I would describe it as driving your bedroom down the road with no window on the leading end
Served part of my apprenticeship on EMDs . I enjoy the sound of one notching up with a big load . 😊
WHAT
And the only way to see where you're going is through the door keyhole 😂
@@spiriteddrive6309Exactly, but they like problems 😂😂
What is a window though? Not like your going to stab the brakes and stop er quick anyway
Love 567 pulling. Nothing beats that sound.
We don't get to see their danish sisters very often, down here, so this was a delight! Gorgeous machines!
You just popped up on my feed, watched, liked and subscribed!
You can't beat those grand old ladies from NOHAB, stylish and a sound to match! What happened to locomotive design!? 🥺😥😭
Done many miles behind the Di3, between Storlien and Trondheim! Still remember hearing them for 10 minutes coming uphill, passing the border at Stora Helvetet(?)....
Greetings from a Swede in Glasgow, Scotland! 🍻
Very interesting to see the Convel security system. I am one of the first Portuguese train drivers to have the Convel formation in 1994.
Wonderful video and narration of a wonderful event. Some great informative comments too.
The sound of my childhood
For me, there was always an awesome look to these locomotives. My first time close to one of these EMD locomotives, was when my elementary class to a ride from Milwaukee to Racine Wisconsin and back, in the 1960's, on the Milwaukee Road.
I noticed in the video, that it was vert quiet inside the cab.
Both locos are in excellent condition!
IIRC the C variant of the EMD16V567 was pioneered by Clyde engineering in Australia. I read that in a publication 20 years ago and posted what I just wrote on an enthusiast forum 16 years ago. Even back then the detractors pounced with their unrelenting invectives that obviously play the man rather than the ball so to speak.
They stopped when I eventually found the publication, and posted the volume, issue and page number. All I got in return naturally enough was deafening silence.
Anyway part (not all) of the C variant upgrade was a power increase to 1800hp (in Australia) and a structural reworking of the crankcase to reduce cracking that became apparent in the 1500hp versions .
Loving the three double slip switches.
Now the 567 C was used in the GM class 13 and greater, the 6 traction motor variants if I remember correctly? These Norwegian locos reminded me of the GM locos!
Thanks!
I have been an engineer for 30 years that sounds like a gp 38-2 here in the U.S. Interesting to see the different control stand. My great grandfather was from Oslo, cool video.
Very enjoyable. I had a long cab ride in a Nohab is Hungary about 10 years ago. It was such a comfortable ride.
Gotta love the double enders!
I was in a Penn Central era F9 unit, ex PRR. It was filthy inside and out compared to these beauties! Great to see, and to hear them! Thank you!
PRR did not have F9s. FP7 and F7 , yes.
@jeffreymcfadden9403 Oof! I'm slippin. That's a rookie mistake!😁 Anyway the engineroom was full of dirt and grease. The Engineer who's nickname was "Smitty" told me the unit w/2 sisters was off train EF-2, (Elkhart-Ft.Wayne). He said he hated to get them bec they were usually "unreliable junk." Yr was 1972.
lovely clean condition for 70 years old!
Thank you. Excellent video.
Wauw what a sound, beautiful locomotives👍👌👌👌
Wonderful! Thank you 🙂
I got a ride in front of one of these engines in 1988 I guess... One of the very last rides on Fagernesbanen... And I was allowed to press the horn. Guess I was 7 at the time! :)
No thundering, gentle purring!
DP1 'Deltic' front end looks going on there.
Great locomotiv
e and very nice video
Surprised by the backwards pressure gauge, was going to ask about the grill on the windows, except you answered that one, thanks. Makes cleaning the window a lot harder.
Here in the U.S, We call those "Ghetto Guards" to stop vandals from breaking windows with rocks.
Fantastic video
Es gibt nichts, das besser ist als solch ein technisches Meisterwerk - außer zwei davon 😘😂👍💐
Guten Morgen und einen schönen Sonntag 👋
Excellent video ! 👍
Everything is sooo clean - those critters obviously lead a very sheltered life 😀
Very interesting to watch the seventy-year old beasts running so swiftly.👍
Super great done video, thumbs up and greetings from Denmark :)
Can Danes and Norwegians mutually communicate in their respective languages?
Some can, just writing in english as the description is written in it :)
Beautiful old iron 👏👏👏
I wish more vehicle engines had at least a reasonable way to pre and even post oil. Things like that and more corrosion resistance would have a greater ecological impact than people rushing out to buy more eco friendly vehicles
EMD prime movers and a bulldog nose(s). This is what a diesel locomotive is supposed to be!
Eargasm!
We love the NOHABs in Hungary, I’m a big fan of them❤
Together with German V200's and British Deltics are Nohab's best European diesels.
Beauties!
The loco numbers indicate that both are "a" series, with C-C trucks, correct?
They sound great!
...from the US.
@@SteamCrane that is correct. The b series were only #641 to 643.
Clean and well maintained lovely old ladies! 😊
Seems like the other one got copyright stuck for some reason...
Echt ein Traum diese Loks
Wow, that thing basically looks like a European flavored version of the old EMD F units from the US.
Nice!
The grilles on the windshields is not a Ghetto-Grill but a guard against falling rock and icicles in tunnels, I guess. (Oh, I wrote this before the guys said it)
"Ghetto-Grill: That immediately reminded me of a true story; told in one of my "stories from a locomotive engineer" book. I can't remember if the cab in the story had a window grille. Some clowns pitched a bottle from an overpass--It flew through the window on the engineer's side; shattering into jagged pieces. One of the pieces severed a neck artery, and he fell over; profusely bleeding. The conductor applied pressure; but the poor man bled out. Dead. I don't know if they caught the offender(s). Was it the broken window; or broken bottle? I'll have to reread the story; it's been a few years. Tragic; but it highlights the importance of a window grille in some areas of the States.
nice video about train
Overhead Grid obviously for Electric Locomotives!!
Good upload.. 😊 is there any hindrance in the visibility?
Come on along and listen to, the lullaby of Norway !! (Anyone know what that's from ?)
Why does it need two locomotives for only 5 cars?
When a railway museum is allowed to run their equipment on national rail, you’re required to have a back up so you do not plug up the rest of the current operations in progress if something fails.
Most countries seem to do this.
@lazman111 Ah, makes sense. Much like they do with steam locomotives but that's more understandable
I lived in Mosjoen in 1977. Can anyone tell me what the locomotives were on the passenger train.
⌚️vintage seiko restoration
awatch that traveled
Gosh.
Its just like MS Train Simulator!
Can one download this train?
These engines look very similar to the North American F Units
👌👍
13:26 - Honk !
Вагонов мало, состав короткий. У нас одного "Тапка" ТЭП70 на такой хватило бы :)
Der Sound zum Sonntag 🙏
Amen. 😁
Why is the metal part of the instrument panel painted green? on Russian planes too.
Nice, but you did not record any action of them running under load on notch 8. Then the 567 sings.
Glimrende video som vanlig, karer, men som vanlig er EMDn i hovedrollen.
Super video! Får vi også se mer opptak fra selve turen?
Too much pre and too little post.
Brute power
🍫👍
"How dare you",....Gremlin Greta
It looks like a British Deltic.
Love the contrast of ‘then and now’ at 13:20. Each era has its own beauty!🔥❤️