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chinese here. byd usually built battery bigger than it claims. and it will gradually release battery so battery does not decline as fast as other brand. it is better build quality than xpeng or tesla. my model y lost almost 5% in 2 years. byd battery hold way better according to taxi driver survey. xpeng is good in adas. byd lag behind here. one pedal drive caused a lot of accidents in china. driver lose muscle memory to use stop pedal when needed. that is why byd not allow one pedal drive.
@fakamada this topic has been discussed in china and this is the conclusion. byd does not want to have extra legal trouble. it is very easy to program. byd intentionlly deny it. take it or leave it
@@lifefun1987 BYD is just a bad company overall. Especially in software side. This topic is a clear proof. If you are not good at something, just make it seem bad. Sounds similar to what Toyota has been doing for many years.
@fakamada byd is weaker than huawei or xpeng in software. but in china market its high end car adas is improving very fast. i drive aito m9. best adas on the world. japanese build car in japanese way. byd build car mosyly based on china market need. it is 26 million market. more than US and EU combined.
Nine people out of ten want comfortable and quiet simplicity to driving anywhere. Apart from the fact that Viking has NOT driven this car, does he understand who it is made for? Well, it's a family car that you can comfortably take on a road trip with 3 kids, or load to the hilt when shopping. If you want something to drive hard and don't have decent roads to travel on, then the Sealion 7 is NOT a good choice. As someone who drove an average of 40000km per year for almost 15 years, on good country and suburban roads, and having watched every RUclips review on this car to date, it ticks every box as far as I am concerned. And I do know it's not *perfect* and also know I have never owned a car that was. As for ADAS, I have it on my present EV and have set it up so that I get NO annoying beeps, and that's been the case for over 2 years.
car journals always like balls out oversteer hooligans that's why they always rate bmw over audi when people buy audi prefer the comfort and finish over bone shaking rides
funny how u have driven this much but still relies on the opinions of amateur journalists. Didn't you know that the Sealion 06 will receive local suspension tunings and BYD will most likely do the same for Sealion 7. What do you hold against this new BYD EV as in which specific aspects? You haven't said anything about that and jumped to the conclusion so soon.
@@PMI551 Journalists as in some arrogant people from Carsales or something. This remakeit dude said he watched 'every' video about Sealion 7 on RUclips so I was assuming that he meant those journalists other than Sam.
@@noodlefoo It's a REx PHEV. It drives pretty much like an EV though, and the range is close to 100km. Now he's run the engine in, my friend is just driving it in EV mode the whole time.
Thanks for the reviews Sam. I do think you are being "click-baity" with the ""Shocking..." and "...major issues..." That kind of thing will tend to turn me away from videos. Plus, you are reviewing another person's review, so it's one person's subjective thoughts on another person's subjective thoughts. Anyways, comments on your videos will help you out, so there you go, and as a viewer I can always discount the subjectivity and just pick out the facts. I'll be test driving a Sealion at the Bangkok Moto Show next week. Saw one at the dealership a few days ago and my subjective view is that it's quite a looker. Love the giant fronk and the HUD. For me range is not so important as I will be charging at home 99% of the time, and the few long trips we do each year are done casually, and I've no issue with chilling at a charging station. Note the mid-spec "Design" will charge 10-80% in 32 minutes. Cheers.
That’s why I listen to the Electric Viking. He speaks the truth and he does thorough research. After meeting him at the EV show and watching him deal with about 50 questions from 15 people after the panel forum show had finished, he was amazing and answered every question thoroughly and correctly from any subject from battery manufacture to EV charging to Chinese models and the renewable industry in Australia. Sam is the only EV RUclipsr which I set my notifications ON so I get all his videos daily I suggest you do the same if you want to know about the EV space
I like him mostly but his Tesla bias remains. He should have criticized Elon big time for jumping in bed with Trump in cancelling out EV incentives in USA. That's a key point of his channel he says, he wants to spread cleaner, greener renewable energies yet he kisses Elons rear big time. Yesterday CATL boss said 4680 would fail, and he's defending Musk again by stating CATL might be investigated by China because it's too big and then stating Tesla has made a big contract with CATL for future LFP in America
I'm not claiming that he generally doesn't do the research, but making a video on another guy's review and taking it as the truth isn't what I call "thorough research"
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Bro, no need to put other reviewers down. Implying they are not honest is just poor form. Just review the car as you see fit honestly. Putting yourself on a pedestal and dumping other reviewers down the gutter is just uncool. So thumbs down for you.
The biggest problem with buying EVs is the technology upgrade. BYD is actually addressing battery inefficiencies issues, but we can only see improvements on Blade Battery 2.0. So if you do not need to use the car at the moment, waiting is always a better option.
@@MarkChen-m8n Absolutely. You just keep waiting just a bit, then again just a bit for the next tech jump, then the next one again and... no matter how long you keep waiting, in the end you buy one, that will become "obsolate" sooner or later anyway...
I don't know about other markets, but in China the top trim of Sealion 07 costs less than the cheapest Model Y, so... Keep that in mind when comparing them.
Being cheaper, is not a better thing, unless it 100% match everything the Tesla has and can do, or beat A bike is cheaper than the car you speake of, but you're not going to use that in the rain or snow now are you, so what if its cheaper, if you can not use it, Understand.
@@techshark77 It's a false analogy, it's not a bike and a car, there are two cars that from the average consumer standpoint have the same functionality. And you will be surprised, but pricing is also a huge and integral part of the competition. Also, some people really appreciate it when they don't have to pay a fortune for a toycar interior and seats as comfortable as a backless stool can be, lol.
@@techshark77 That's a silly analogy and makes you sound less credible. Walking is cheaper than buying a car -- or a bike -- but hardly relevant to shopping for a car and comparing prices.
Just because a review is negative doesn't mean it's accurate, conversely a positive review doesn't mean it's accurate either. It's best to look at many reviews since a lot of what makes up a review is subjective.
Wouldn’t buy this or the Xpeng G6. Xpeng don’t reply when you book a test drive as they say they will and they don’t reply to customer enquiries either. That’s your first warning not to go near them. BYD have always replied yet their products have slipped behind. I will always say this though. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Never rely on motoring reviews go test drive for yourself.
Sam your comments around the Atto 3 ADAS in 2022 when released is different than the expectations of a car released in 2025, and I note today still plenty of cars from legacy auto whose ADAS is ordinary, including some large Japanese manufacturers. BYD's never review particulalrly well in the UK and that is a big part due to their pricing, but a Skoda Enyaq or Hyundai Ioniq 5 will likely be $15k more in Australia and even then plenty won't touch them due to their NMC batteries anyway.
Few points to consider: - Majority of buyers prefer soft suspension setup for comfortability even it means compromising the handling, especially for non performance SUV - Not everyone wants one pedal driving, I know a lot my petrolhead friends never considered Tesla for this reason alone. In fact part of the reason I don't like Tesla apart from minimalism is one pedal driving that cannot be adjusted. - Latest BYD software update has improved the ADAS, much better than 2022 version although it's still not perfect. - Most of the BYD extra weight come down for using LFP chemistry for big battery. The XPeng G6 and Y LR they use NMC battery.
Significant bias I am afraid. This is an LFP battery, well known for lower density therefore less range compared to an equivalent NMC battery. On the other hand though LFP lasts far longer and degrades far slower than an NMC. Speaking on personal experience my 2019 Model 3 with an NMC battery from a starting range of 309 miles (EPA rating) is now down to 280 after 81k miles. 9.3% loss. I saw video and report of a BYD with 445k! miles with 20% degradation.. On the sealion though the prices are indeed high. You need lower prices if you want to infiltrate the market. As for the ADAS system, I have been in a number of different cars recently; they are all CRAP! Tesla is indeed better on this front.
@@jasonmcintosh3448 ADAS systems described as horrendous where I have not come across a car so far that they work as we would like too. Tesla has the edge but they are still full of issues. My wipers still activate due to sun where no rain is around, I still get phantom breaks after 5 years of ownership and still the lane keeping is jolting the stirring wheel. Comparison between LFP and NMC. We all know that LFPs give less range on the same kw size. No mentioning on the fact though that LFPs have far less degradation and more life cycles. Range deemed small while Tesla and other EV manufactures grossly overestimate their range.
@@jasonmcintosh3448 His point is LFP batteries weigh more for a given pack size and the weight impacts efficiency, handling, braking and acceleration. But LFP has a more robust chemical structure, suffers from lower degradation, can handle higher temparatures, higher states of charge and regular fast charging better as well as being safer. All BYD EVs have LFP batteries.
The Sealion still possess better than average power compared to its peers. The price is an advantage. This Sealion comes with far more advanced technology. Sealion is the Car that not only exceeds my requirement but also extremely fun to drive. Go for a test drive and you will know what I mean.
i am a taxi driver with over 1.5million kilometers in cars and this car checks almost all my boxes. except the weight everything else looks nice to me. big lfp battery,comfortable ride, software for me will be carplay so i dont rly care about the cars one, gonna test the single motor one when it comes in eu.
For practical reasons, there is little point in lugging a heavy battery when a light battery will save energy and takes less time to charge while having marginally less range.
The Irish guys at the German test were doing 225km/h on the autobahn. Aero drag at that speed is 4x that of 110km/h so it is not surprising the efficiency was shocking. All were impressed with the quiet and comfort. You should not go on one review. It is a large family car.
Which German buys such a chinese junk EV....just a poor guy or a company lease..maybe...you not got spare parts or service here in Germany for them....🤔
I've seen multiple different reviews, Irish x 2, UK x 2 and several others. All said suspension was not good, and car was very heavy, so lots of leaning in corners despite the weight being low down. Needs the new blade battery, and upgrade suspension.
Not really au fait with suspension set ups, which you have been talking about lately 🤔. Had the chance to compare a Tesla model 3 base model with my MG4 base model with a mate of a mate. Both have rear wheel drive, both have LFP batteries. Both hug the road. Fun 😁 to drive. I was impressed with all his bells and whistles, he was impressed with the soft ride in the MG4. The Tesla is sprung harder and you feel every bump. Matt Campbell said on your channel he loves the base model MG4 because its lighter and fun. I feel I've jagged a great car without knowing why. Soft ride plus grip? Please explain 🎉. Cheers Rossco
Hmmmm. Forgive me for being skeptical, but this is a a competitor to the Xpeng G6, a car that Sam constantly pushes on this channel. Am I being cynical?
Nonsense the Atto3 ADAS in my Atto is every bit as good as that in my TM3, except to the Atto version is easier to use. My suspicion is he has never driven the Atto any distance nor bothered to set it up. You actually have to go through the menus and set your preferences. Its not particularly hard but does require reading the manual to get the full benefit. The cognitively challenged could have difficulty, in which case they should get someone to set it up for them.
Well I own both and I couldn't disagree more. Tesla autopilot is pretty good whilst my Atto 3 (which is the car I drive the most) is nothing more than adaptive cruise control with autosteer (which is just glorified LKA). What's the difference - well the Tesla actually anticipates traffic in front, rear and at the sides, keeps an exact speed (something the BYD seems incapable of doing) and drives confidently enough that you just have to monitor. It's not perfect - I've had it brake on me when somebody turned right in front of me although there was plenty of room and twice (both times on trips to Melbourne) it's tried to take an incorrect exit - but overall it's a pretty good system. As soon as the BYD hits a hill it starts to slow down and it takes about 7-10secs for it to realise and start accelerating - even my old Outlander had better ACC than that. It would be the most annoying human driver ever. Think about that - if you're on the freeway overtaking traffic at the speed limit and it hits a hill, the Atto 3 starts to slow down leaving you in the median lane going slower than the speed limit. It's autosteer is OK until it isn't, when the camber of the road gets excessive. I've used it maybe 3 times but gave up on it. The Tesla is the simplest and easiest car I've ever had for autopilot/ACC. Double click down on the right stalk and use the scroll wheel to set your speed and the travel distance. OTOH the BYD when you first engage cruise control sets it to the current speed, right? Wrong - it sets it to 30km/h and you can then set the speed by advancing it in 5km/h increments. I think you can also set it after you engage by using the resume button but that's something I only discovered on my last freeway. Don't get me wrong - I like the Atto 3 but there's a huge technology gap to the TM3.
Sam, your G6 is 800V architecture so how fast is it on 400V chargers (which most of them are)? Just wondering how they tackled it as Porsche use an expensive DC-DC converter (and charge for it) while Hyundai splits their pack in two which results in slower charging.
Good video, have been watching your reviews. Does Australia have the BYD M6 as well? Would like to see your view on that particular MPV! Also, hopefully, Vehicle to Grid, Fleet to Grid becomes a thing in future!
No chance to try the Sealion 07 here in Finland yet. The BYD Seal is here though. My personal feeling about the BYD Seal was very positive. It has almost the same suspension system as the Tesla. The ride felt good. You could feel the power. I also liked that big central display. And it also has a second display. The interior was very attractive. The seats are very luxurious. These things are almost the same in the Sealion 07. Quite big energy consumption is BYD's biggest problem. For some reason, it seems that the new evo version is even worse in that sense.
I have a friend in Hong Kong who got this last month and he said the handling is actually better than model 3 or BYD seal. the steering wheel of any EVs will always feel disconnected compared to ICE, can't really say much unless I've driven one.
It’s unlikely to be true, or your friend simply prefers a car that leans a lot when cornering. Multiple reviewers have mentioned that this car has a lean-prone, uncomposed suspension due to its overly soft setup. Teslas don’t suffer from the same problem, because the suspension is on the stiffer side, and it’s also much lighter.
Efficiency is king. Why have many EV manufacturers not pushed this? My Tesla M3 RWD Highland is generally 4.5 miles per kWh for past 7 months and gives this at 70 mph speeds. A great increase over my Kia E Niro that did 3 to 3.5 miles per kWh at 70 mph speeds. Also bigger batteries take longer to charge and cost more as a result.
@@jimmyhan4650 Not true for all circumstances. I have a 2023 RWD model 3 - I do a semi-regular trip from Sydney to Melbourne and back, I stop for late breakfast and early dinner (Gundagai and Euroa) exactly the same as I did in my ICE car and the same as what I would do in a long range. 2 x 20-25 min stops and I'm done, without fail I have enough charge to contunue before I have finished eating and using the bathroom. I can do 3 x 164 km round trips to work between charges because I can charge to 100% with an LFP battery as often as I like and don't need to keep to the 80/20 rule - and before you start with degradation, yes I charge my car to 100% every time and yes I leave it plugged in at 100% until I want to use it again - after 21 months and 40,000km I have 3% degradation, 2% occurred in the first 10 months and only 1% since. The sheer practicality of the LFP battery is far more important for me than a longer range, a difference in range that I have yet to find would have given me any advantages despite numerous country / remote trips. BTW I doubt anyone is getting close to my efficiency with a Tesla Long Range AWD. i.imgur.com/IJ2mSiY.jpg - I can sit on 125wh/km (200wh/mi) all day long at 70mph in reasonable conditions.
@@jimmyhan4650 Efficiency gives range. My Tesla gives me 4.5 to 5 miles per kWh but range is around 270 miles. Double the battery and say efficiency is now 3 miles per kWh gives 330 miles. So efficient EV’s are the key. If that double sized battery could have same efficiency that would be amazing.
I think most people still not see any Chinese brands as premium/luxury brand. Only world-famous brands such as Benz, BMW, Audi, Lexus, Cadillac, Bentley, Maybach, Rolls-Royce, etc. are counted as premium/luxury.
what is the mythical "gravy train"? .. was it, perhaps, some kind of 19th Century USA locomotive pulling a train of wagons full of gravy from the East Coast to the West Coast?
Hi Mat , like your daily update's. Can we make a deal please. Consumsion of an EV is done in Kwh per 100 km and not on range of a full battery. And to make it simple, with AC heating on 21 degrees. Then we get apples with apples.
Like an Audi Q6 E-tron with air suspension then? 😳 Nice and comfortable, quiet and calm, but to drive sporty on winding roads; too soft and little feeling with the road through too light and numb steering.😉
In regards to steering feel in particular there is no excuse for lack of feel especially when the software is as good as it is in China. They can alter and manipulate automatic gearboxes with software to lower emissions so this should similar on an electric power steering rack or drive by wire systems. But if it feels great and doesn't handle well maybe this is BYD'S way of telling you don't point it into a corner at speed. It will be interesting to see what Chinese brands will get this right.
BYD only uses LFP batteries even in big cars and luxury cars and so density is an issue. They will have that issue until they move to Solid State or some other dense battery.
What also bothers me a lot is that in Europe we have to pay lot for this car, that I like, but it lacks a lot of stuff that the chinese version has. So we pay much more for a trim down version of the same car.
At least you can buy this car in your country! Americans like myself.... you know the "Home of the Brave and Land of the Free".... can't do that. Our government would rather let it citizens go broke paying for high priced cars. This so that our domestic ICE automakers, and their United Auto Workers union leaches, don't go out of business. So we are artificially financing them through tarrifs which then, under the covers, return as federal grants to these same automakers.... so they can convert to be EV makers.... except they never do. Some just used the federal money to buy back stock and line the pockets of their executives with bonuses (I'm talking to you GM!). So Americans have little choice except a Tesla if we want a pure EV at a decent price. Yes there are Hyundais and KIAs here too but in low quantities and worse software than a Tesla.
Yesterday you said in the video that China beats the whole world with 1000km batteries, today you say they lied in one version of the car, you were also saying LFP chinese batteries are suppirior... look at your comments, almost everyone reasonable says that you say strange things and not providing actual facts...
A none driven review based on another review,based on another opinion. This is why i encourage everyone to ignore car journalists reviews and actually go and test drive and form your own opinions. After all, you're paying for it. Not another RUclips bobble head.
There is a reason why there is denza and yangwang.. why are you expecting byd to go premium when created another brand that goes premium? this is simple logic, why cant it register in your head.
Heavy weight cars don't works in South East Asia. I've seen a Tesla drive same speed with Toyota Yaris over a bridge. The Toyota look normal but the Tesla look like drive over a huge bump, the wheel travel so much and the whole car look almost jump 1 feet.
Large suvs and pickup trucks are not suitable for long-range electric vehicles. They are too heavy. Small city hatchbacks charge faster and travel further. Because they have smaller batteries and weight less.
BYD cars are surprisingly heavy and inefficient, more a low cost volume manufacturer than tech leader it seems which makes sense for the Chinese market.
Sorry Sam you're wrong on this one and you know it hence the clickbait title. Make you're own research and post that to begin with. Don't just go of someone else's (perhaps biased) test.
It needed to be said, and it was said. Thank you Viking for being objective and speaking the truth. I love BYD, hopefully they do not derive from improving their efficiency for producing so many models so fast. I agree with you.
Hey old mate. Typical Byd bashing again. 150 kw charging is perfect for Australia! Tell me how many chargers in Australia can do more than 150kwh? Let alone 300+!
If the Sealion 7 is a Seal on stilts, they have my money again. Love my Seal Performance. Charging speed isnt the fastest, its softly sprung, its not a 3 series, and ADAS was annoying until its update. And? And ive read the Sealion 7 will have the full 390kw in AWD form with a 4.5S on the boot lid. And these other cars have this and that and have longer ranges etc, so they say. But we dont know yet, do we? Havent seen any journo drive one yet. And lastly, a "perched" driving position, its an SUV isnt it? Didnt know it was a 911 GT3 with seating needing to be on the floor. Click bait as far as im concerned.
So you are talking about journalistic integrity while reviewing a car that you have never even driven or sat on. Really? Elliot said and Elliot found out. Thanks, but no thanks. I am sure the car is not perfect, but it has a lot going for it in terms of fit for purpose, interior design, finish and I have actually found the driving experience to be top notch both in comfort and resonsiveness. But you would not know this, because you have never driven this car nor do you intend to do so.
Mover 2500 kg nao e facil e em hibrido e uma desgraca....precisam se baterias que deem autonomia minima de 1000 klms e com forca suficiente para mover 2.5 ton e xarregamentos em 5 minutos.
@santoshrathod123 Exactly right. However, if BMW is anything to go by with such problems they start off with resetting the code and saying 'should be fixed now', when it's not and breaks down at an inconvenient time. When sensors start to fail they can throw misleading codes in other adjacent areas which in some instances can create a real problem for both drivers and the dealership, who most times don't have enough experience or time to follow up hunches or deep-dive into systems. This leaves the owner without their car for possibly weeks at a time and a feeling of disappointment or anger. If you keep going back with the same unresolved issue most dealerships start to get fed up seeing you.
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@joejimmy8088 Many people buy a Tesla in the US just to not deal with unreliable third party charging companies. So Hyundai not going to be as popular.
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I have a 22 Atto3 never had one single problem with this car or any of its functions! Would buy again !
chinese here. byd usually built battery bigger than it claims. and it will gradually release battery so battery does not decline as fast as other brand. it is better build quality than xpeng or tesla.
my model y lost almost 5% in 2 years. byd battery hold way better according to taxi driver survey.
xpeng is good in adas. byd lag behind here.
one pedal drive caused a lot of accidents in china. driver lose muscle memory to use stop pedal when needed. that is why byd not allow one pedal drive.
Agree
Sorry but total bullsh*t here. You can offer one pedal as an "option". Simple as that. The most illogical defense I have ever seen up to date, lol.
@fakamada this topic has been discussed in china and this is the conclusion.
byd does not want to have extra legal trouble.
it is very easy to program. byd intentionlly deny it. take it or leave it
@@lifefun1987 BYD is just a bad company overall. Especially in software side. This topic is a clear proof. If you are not good at something, just make it seem bad. Sounds similar to what Toyota has been doing for many years.
@fakamada byd is weaker than huawei or xpeng in software. but in china market its high end car adas is improving very fast.
i drive aito m9. best adas on the world.
japanese build car in japanese way. byd build car mosyly based on china market need. it is 26 million market. more than US and EU combined.
Nine people out of ten want comfortable and quiet simplicity to driving anywhere.
Apart from the fact that Viking has NOT driven this car, does he understand who it is made for?
Well, it's a family car that you can comfortably take on a road trip with 3 kids, or load to the hilt when shopping.
If you want something to drive hard and don't have decent roads to travel on, then the Sealion 7 is NOT a good choice. As someone who drove an average of 40000km per year for almost 15 years, on good country and suburban roads, and having watched every RUclips review on this car to date, it ticks every box as far as I am concerned. And I do know it's not *perfect* and also know I have never owned a car that was.
As for ADAS, I have it on my present EV and have set it up so that I get NO annoying beeps, and that's been the case for over 2 years.
car journals always like balls out oversteer hooligans that's why they always rate bmw over audi when people buy audi prefer the comfort and finish over bone shaking rides
funny how u have driven this much but still relies on the opinions of amateur journalists. Didn't you know that the Sealion 06 will receive local suspension tunings and BYD will most likely do the same for Sealion 7. What do you hold against this new BYD EV as in which specific aspects? You haven't said anything about that and jumped to the conclusion so soon.
@@PMI551 No I wasn't rejecting Sam's opinions, it's just this remakeit dude.
@@PMI551 Journalists as in some arrogant people from Carsales or something. This remakeit dude said he watched 'every' video about Sealion 7 on RUclips so I was assuming that he meant those journalists other than Sam.
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It's weird because the Sealion 6 is insanely popular in Australia. A friend of mine bought one and he loves it.
I think "insanely" popular is pushing it. It is something new and different which generates buzz but it's long term popularity is an unknown
Is it? Sealion 6 is a hybrid, not full EV though.
@@noodlefoo It's a REx PHEV. It drives pretty much like an EV though, and the range is close to 100km. Now he's run the engine in, my friend is just driving it in EV mode the whole time.
@@noodlefooin Eu 6 has fully electric version 87,5 kwh battery.
@@John-p7i5g Still a hybrid technology, not the same as full EV. And won't receive FBT exemption from next year in Australia.
Thank you, Sam, for always keeping it real. That's exactly why I continue to support your channel.
Thanks for the reviews Sam. I do think you are being "click-baity" with the ""Shocking..." and "...major issues..." That kind of thing will tend to turn me away from videos. Plus, you are reviewing another person's review, so it's one person's subjective thoughts on another person's subjective thoughts. Anyways, comments on your videos will help you out, so there you go, and as a viewer I can always discount the subjectivity and just pick out the facts. I'll be test driving a Sealion at the Bangkok Moto Show next week. Saw one at the dealership a few days ago and my subjective view is that it's quite a looker. Love the giant fronk and the HUD. For me range is not so important as I will be charging at home 99% of the time, and the few long trips we do each year are done casually, and I've no issue with chilling at a charging station. Note the mid-spec "Design" will charge 10-80% in 32 minutes. Cheers.
One can hardly call this a review tbh. Its a review of a review Oo. And the original review is just of that guys personal exp and taste.
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BYD sells 10x everyone else.
... annoying... so many Chinese trolls spreading pro-Chinese EVs propaganda..." Oh, here in Australia BYD is insanely popular... we love it..."
That’s why I listen to the Electric Viking. He speaks the truth and he does thorough research. After meeting him at the EV show and watching him deal
with about 50 questions from 15 people after the panel forum show had finished, he was amazing and answered every question thoroughly and correctly from any subject from battery manufacture to EV charging to Chinese models and the renewable industry in Australia.
Sam is the only EV RUclipsr which I set my notifications ON so I get all his videos daily
I suggest you do the same if you want to know about the EV space
I like him mostly but his Tesla bias remains. He should have criticized Elon big time for jumping in bed with Trump in cancelling out EV incentives in USA. That's a key point of his channel he says, he wants to spread cleaner, greener renewable energies yet he kisses Elons rear big time. Yesterday CATL boss said 4680 would fail, and he's defending Musk again by stating CATL might be investigated by China because it's too big and then stating Tesla has made a big contract with CATL for future LFP in America
Sams been bought out by Xpeng 😂
@@hakonpettersen4140 judgment with no proof.
wrg, he's sponsored by geely and xpeng
I'm not claiming that he generally doesn't do the research, but making a video on another guy's review and taking it as the truth isn't what I call "thorough research"
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I started pretty low, though, $5000 thereabouts. The return came massive. Joey is in school doing well, telling me of new friends he's meeting in school. Thank you Evelyn Vera, you're a miracle.
Wow...I know her too she is a licensed broker and a FINRA agent she is popular in
US and Canada she is really amazing woman with good skills and experience.
Bro, no need to put other reviewers down. Implying they are not honest is just poor form. Just review the car as you see fit honestly. Putting yourself on a pedestal and dumping other reviewers down the gutter is just uncool. So thumbs down for you.
BYD MAKES THE BEST VEHICLES FOR THE LEAST MONEY, IN 10 YEARS IT WILL BE NO. 1 IN THE WORLD
The biggest problem with buying EVs is the technology upgrade.
BYD is actually addressing battery inefficiencies issues, but we can only see improvements on Blade Battery 2.0.
So if you do not need to use the car at the moment, waiting is always a better option.
In my youth, I sold Hi-Fi gear, mid
70's thru the mid80's. My take away,you cannot chase technology! Cheers!
@@MarkChen-m8n Absolutely. You just keep waiting just a bit, then again just a bit for the next tech jump, then the next one again and... no matter how long you keep waiting, in the end you buy one, that will become "obsolate" sooner or later anyway...
Look at EV brand which support BaaS battery swapping. Your all issues are gone.
I don't know about other markets, but in China the top trim of Sealion 07 costs less than the cheapest Model Y, so... Keep that in mind when comparing them.
Pffftt I will stick with Tesla.
Being cheaper, is not a better thing, unless it 100% match everything the Tesla has and can do, or beat
A bike is cheaper than the car you speake of, but you're not going to use that in the rain or snow now are you, so what if its cheaper, if you can not use it,
Understand.
@@techshark77 It's a false analogy, it's not a bike and a car, there are two cars that from the average consumer standpoint have the same functionality. And you will be surprised, but pricing is also a huge and integral part of the competition. Also, some people really appreciate it when they don't have to pay a fortune for a toycar interior and seats as comfortable as a backless stool can be, lol.
wrr
@@techshark77 That's a silly analogy and makes you sound less credible. Walking is cheaper than buying a car -- or a bike -- but hardly relevant to shopping for a car and comparing prices.
Just because a review is negative doesn't mean it's accurate, conversely a positive review doesn't mean it's accurate either. It's best to look at many reviews since a lot of what makes up a review is subjective.
Tesla pays him thru his starlink advertising
I'd say it's pretty accurate from the reviewer telling it how it is.
Wouldn’t buy this or the Xpeng G6. Xpeng don’t reply when you book a test drive as they say they will and they don’t reply to customer enquiries either. That’s your first warning not to go near them.
BYD have always replied yet their products have slipped behind.
I will always say this though. Opinions are like assholes. Everybody has one. Never rely on motoring reviews go test drive for yourself.
" never rely on motoring reviews go test drive for yourself" - Amen to that :)
Sam your comments around the Atto 3 ADAS in 2022 when released is different than the expectations of a car released in 2025, and I note today still plenty of cars from legacy auto whose ADAS is ordinary, including some large Japanese manufacturers. BYD's never review particulalrly well in the UK and that is a big part due to their pricing, but a Skoda Enyaq or Hyundai Ioniq 5 will likely be $15k more in Australia and even then plenty won't touch them due to their NMC batteries anyway.
Your x peng 6 is a good car
Thank's Sam, because of your Program I just bought a chevrolet equinox EV Only had it 2 months So far so good
Few points to consider:
- Majority of buyers prefer soft suspension setup for comfortability even it means compromising the handling, especially for non performance SUV
- Not everyone wants one pedal driving, I know a lot my petrolhead friends never considered Tesla for this reason alone. In fact part of the reason I don't like Tesla apart from minimalism is one pedal driving that cannot be adjusted.
- Latest BYD software update has improved the ADAS, much better than 2022 version although it's still not perfect.
- Most of the BYD extra weight come down for using LFP chemistry for big battery. The XPeng G6 and Y LR they use NMC battery.
This guy just hates BYD , it is a great car and proven .
Significant bias I am afraid. This is an LFP battery, well known for lower density therefore less range compared to an equivalent NMC battery. On the other hand though LFP lasts far longer and degrades far slower than an NMC. Speaking on personal experience my 2019 Model 3 with an NMC battery from a starting range of 309 miles (EPA rating) is now down to 280 after 81k miles. 9.3% loss. I saw video and report of a BYD with 445k! miles with 20% degradation.. On the sealion though the prices are indeed high. You need lower prices if you want to infiltrate the market. As for the ADAS system, I have been in a number of different cars recently; they are all CRAP! Tesla is indeed better on this front.
Teslas here in Oz have LFP batteries and are long ranged and weigh less.
I'm not following? Can you please explain the Bias, factually?
@@jasonmcintosh3448 ADAS systems described as horrendous where I have not come across a car so far that they work as we would like too. Tesla has the edge but they are still full of issues. My wipers still activate due to sun where no rain is around, I still get phantom breaks after 5 years of ownership and still the lane keeping is jolting the stirring wheel. Comparison between LFP and NMC. We all know that LFPs give less range on the same kw size. No mentioning on the fact though that LFPs have far less degradation and more life cycles. Range deemed small while Tesla and other EV manufactures grossly overestimate their range.
@@simon-c2y only standard range in tesla has LFP... LR and performance still have NMC
@@jasonmcintosh3448 His point is LFP batteries weigh more for a given pack size and the weight impacts efficiency, handling, braking and acceleration. But LFP has a more robust chemical structure, suffers from lower degradation, can handle higher temparatures, higher states of charge and regular fast charging better as well as being safer. All BYD EVs have LFP batteries.
Byd and huawei needs to start collaborating
The Sealion still possess better than average power compared to its peers. The price is an advantage. This Sealion comes with far more advanced technology. Sealion is the Car that not only exceeds my requirement but also extremely fun to drive. Go for a test drive and you will know what I mean.
Done it, love it.
Please don't forget LFP and NMC
I reckon 52k base price in Aus. Value sells. Good luck to the comp
52k is too high.
Cost of living in Oz is high?
Car should be 10k
i am a taxi driver with over 1.5million kilometers in cars and this car checks almost all my boxes. except the weight everything else looks nice to me. big lfp battery,comfortable ride, software for me will be carplay so i dont rly care about the cars one, gonna test the single motor one when it comes in eu.
For practical reasons, there is little point in lugging a heavy battery when a light battery will save energy and takes less time to charge while having marginally less range.
The Irish guys at the German test were doing 225km/h on the autobahn. Aero drag at that speed is 4x that of 110km/h so it is not surprising the efficiency was shocking. All were impressed with the quiet and comfort. You should not go on one review. It is a large family car.
G' farn- farn- farn- Auf d Autobahn!
Which German buys such a chinese junk EV....just a poor guy or a company lease..maybe...you not got spare parts or service here in Germany for them....🤔
I've seen multiple different reviews, Irish x 2, UK x 2 and several others. All said suspension was not good, and car was very heavy, so lots of leaning in corners despite the weight being low down. Needs the new blade battery, and upgrade suspension.
@@murray4794byd有好的电池和悬挂，但是那些车型卖得比较贵，目前只在中国卖😂
Not really au fait with suspension set ups, which you have been talking about lately 🤔. Had the chance to compare a Tesla model 3 base model with my MG4 base model with a mate of a mate. Both have rear wheel drive, both have LFP batteries. Both hug the road. Fun 😁 to drive. I was impressed with all his bells and whistles, he was impressed with the soft ride in the MG4. The Tesla is sprung harder and you feel every bump. Matt Campbell said on your channel he loves the base model MG4 because its lighter and fun. I feel I've jagged a great car without knowing why. Soft ride plus grip? Please explain 🎉. Cheers Rossco
maybe it will be solve by using blade battery gen 2.0?
That's Y I didn't bother and went straight for the Model Y. So happy and growing....driving it like an EV should be driven.
Hmmmm. Forgive me for being skeptical, but this is a a competitor to the Xpeng G6, a car that Sam constantly pushes on this channel. Am I being cynical?
I saw the review and the comment was made as reported here.
😂
honestly i think BYD is after toyota not tesla and those journals have got their memo wrong
Yes
He likes the car he purchased. He’s voicing his opinion.
Be interesting to see the UK review when it finally arrives over here
Nonsense the Atto3 ADAS in my Atto is every bit as good as that in my TM3, except to the Atto version is easier to use.
My suspicion is he has never driven the Atto any distance nor bothered to set it up.
You actually have to go through the menus and set your preferences. Its not particularly hard but does require reading the manual to get the full benefit. The cognitively challenged could have difficulty, in which case they should get someone to set it up for them.
@@jimgraham6722 FSD or autopilot on you m3?
Well I own both and I couldn't disagree more. Tesla autopilot is pretty good whilst my Atto 3 (which is the car I drive the most) is nothing more than adaptive cruise control with autosteer (which is just glorified LKA). What's the difference - well the Tesla actually anticipates traffic in front, rear and at the sides, keeps an exact speed (something the BYD seems incapable of doing) and drives confidently enough that you just have to monitor. It's not perfect - I've had it brake on me when somebody turned right in front of me although there was plenty of room and twice (both times on trips to Melbourne) it's tried to take an incorrect exit - but overall it's a pretty good system. As soon as the BYD hits a hill it starts to slow down and it takes about 7-10secs for it to realise and start accelerating - even my old Outlander had better ACC than that. It would be the most annoying human driver ever. Think about that - if you're on the freeway overtaking traffic at the speed limit and it hits a hill, the Atto 3 starts to slow down leaving you in the median lane going slower than the speed limit. It's autosteer is OK until it isn't, when the camber of the road gets excessive. I've used it maybe 3 times but gave up on it. The Tesla is the simplest and easiest car I've ever had for autopilot/ACC. Double click down on the right stalk and use the scroll wheel to set your speed and the travel distance. OTOH the BYD when you first engage cruise control sets it to the current speed, right? Wrong - it sets it to 30km/h and you can then set the speed by advancing it in 5km/h increments. I think you can also set it after you engage by using the resume button but that's something I only discovered on my last freeway. Don't get me wrong - I like the Atto 3 but there's a huge technology gap to the TM3.
@ and Autopilot is
Sam, your G6 is 800V architecture so how fast is it on 400V chargers (which most of them are)? Just wondering how they tackled it as Porsche use an expensive DC-DC converter (and charge for it) while Hyundai splits their pack in two which results in slower charging.
i think the RHD SL7 still uses 400v platform....
Good video, have been watching your reviews. Does Australia have the BYD M6 as well? Would like to see your view on that particular MPV! Also, hopefully, Vehicle to Grid, Fleet to Grid becomes a thing in future!
A quick search tells me there is only 112kg between XPeng G6 and Sealion 7 kerb weights.
No chance to try the Sealion 07 here in Finland yet. The BYD Seal is here though. My personal feeling about the BYD Seal was very positive. It has almost the same suspension system as the Tesla. The ride felt good. You could feel the power. I also liked that big central display. And it also has a second display. The interior was very attractive. The seats are very luxurious. These things are almost the same in the Sealion 07. Quite big energy consumption is BYD's biggest problem. For some reason, it seems that the new evo version is even worse in that sense.
I have a friend in Hong Kong who got this last month and he said the handling is actually better than model 3 or BYD seal. the steering wheel of any EVs will always feel disconnected compared to ICE, can't really say much unless I've driven one.
It’s unlikely to be true, or your friend simply prefers a car that leans a lot when cornering. Multiple reviewers have mentioned that this car has a lean-prone, uncomposed suspension due to its overly soft setup. Teslas don’t suffer from the same problem, because the suspension is on the stiffer side, and it’s also much lighter.
Good enough? Just need a car better than a 2012 Caravan😮
2nd time i opened this channel. Same as last time, negative with BYD
Efficiency is king. Why have many EV manufacturers not pushed this? My Tesla M3 RWD Highland is generally 4.5 miles per kWh for past 7 months and gives this at 70 mph speeds. A great increase over my Kia E Niro that did 3 to 3.5 miles per kWh at 70 mph speeds.
Also bigger batteries take longer to charge and cost more as a result.
For EVs the only thing that you should consider is the WLTP range, not efficiency, you should know why.
Bigger batteries means more range when you are charged at 50%...which is the best way to minimize battery degradation.
@@jimmyhan4650 Not true for all circumstances. I have a 2023 RWD model 3 - I do a semi-regular trip from Sydney to Melbourne and back, I stop for late breakfast and early dinner (Gundagai and Euroa) exactly the same as I did in my ICE car and the same as what I would do in a long range. 2 x 20-25 min stops and I'm done, without fail I have enough charge to contunue before I have finished eating and using the bathroom.
I can do 3 x 164 km round trips to work between charges because I can charge to 100% with an LFP battery as often as I like and don't need to keep to the 80/20 rule - and before you start with degradation, yes I charge my car to 100% every time and yes I leave it plugged in at 100% until I want to use it again - after 21 months and 40,000km I have 3% degradation, 2% occurred in the first 10 months and only 1% since.
The sheer practicality of the LFP battery is far more important for me than a longer range, a difference in range that I have yet to find would have given me any advantages despite numerous country / remote trips.
BTW I doubt anyone is getting close to my efficiency with a Tesla Long Range AWD. i.imgur.com/IJ2mSiY.jpg - I can sit on 125wh/km (200wh/mi) all day long at 70mph in reasonable conditions.
@ Shouldn’t it be 80%? Correct me if I am wrong.
@@jimmyhan4650 Efficiency gives range. My Tesla gives me 4.5 to 5 miles per kWh but range is around 270 miles. Double the battery and say efficiency is now 3 miles per kWh gives 330 miles. So efficient EV’s are the key. If that double sized battery could have same efficiency that would be amazing.
On the FWD the spring is way too soft, impossible to enjoy any performance despite the more than 500HP. Steering wheel too big.
Wait, are you saying people don't see Xpeng as a premium EV brand?
I think most people still not see any Chinese brands as premium/luxury brand. Only world-famous brands such as Benz, BMW, Audi, Lexus, Cadillac, Bentley, Maybach, Rolls-Royce, etc. are counted as premium/luxury.
how could one see Xpeng as premium lol its like driving a tupperwarebox with batteries in it.
Everything will be available within the next 5 years.😂 Perfect EVs, nuclear fusion, you name it.
Nuclear fusion is available every day it’s called the sun…
Flux capacitor
Surprised that BYD, a battery maker, isn't using its best batteries in its own cars.
We love your unabashed Truth! E' Nuff Z' Nuff with the scandalous lies!
Lightness adds range (i assume) i want to see the mona for sale ; even lighter than tesla.
Actually the 82.5kWh battery can charge up to 170kW and not 150kW 😉
Start calling out the flaws of Tesla's models. There's plenty of them.
what is the mythical "gravy train"? .. was it, perhaps, some kind of 19th Century USA locomotive pulling a train of wagons full of gravy from the East Coast to the West Coast?
Hi Mat , like your daily update's. Can we make a deal please. Consumsion of an EV is done in Kwh per 100 km and not on range of a full battery. And to make it simple, with AC heating on 21 degrees. Then we get apples with apples.
Who's Matt? Do you mean Sam?
@@mondotv4216 My bad
Weight is not explaining inefficiency. It must come from drivetrain losses
Like an Audi Q6 E-tron with air suspension then? 😳 Nice and comfortable, quiet and calm, but to drive sporty on winding roads; too soft and little feeling with the road through too light and numb steering.😉
I was surprised at the stats for this car when I first saw this advertised. A big battery and tiny range. Not sure what's going on with it.
Ironically all the so called safety warnings and lane adjustments are creating driver distractions
and hazards
In regards to steering feel in particular there is no excuse for lack of feel especially when the software is as good as it is in China. They can alter and manipulate automatic gearboxes with software to lower emissions so this should similar on an electric power steering rack or drive by wire systems. But if it feels great and doesn't handle well maybe this is BYD'S way of telling you don't point it into a corner at speed. It will be interesting to see what Chinese brands will get this right.
BYD only uses LFP batteries even in big cars and luxury cars and so density is an issue. They will have that issue until they move to Solid State or some other dense battery.
What also bothers me a lot is that in Europe we have to pay lot for this car, that I like, but it lacks a lot of stuff that the chinese version has. So we pay much more for a trim down version of the same car.
At least you can buy this car in your country! Americans like myself.... you know the "Home of the Brave and Land of the Free".... can't do that.
Our government would rather let it citizens go broke paying for high priced cars. This so that our domestic ICE automakers, and their United Auto Workers union leaches, don't go out of business. So we are artificially financing them through tarrifs which then, under the covers, return as federal grants to these same automakers.... so they can convert to be EV makers.... except they never do. Some just used the federal money to buy back stock and line the pockets of their executives with bonuses (I'm talking to you GM!).
So Americans have little choice except a Tesla if we want a pure EV at a decent price. Yes there are Hyundais and KIAs here too but in low quantities and worse software than a Tesla.
@nickmcconnell1291 that's so sad..
Yesterday you said in the video that China beats the whole world with 1000km batteries, today you say they lied in one version of the car, you were also saying LFP chinese batteries are suppirior... look at your comments, almost everyone reasonable says that you say strange things and not providing actual facts...
looks like xpeng sponsored this video.?
80kWh or more of battery, using low density LFP means an incredibly heavy battery and car. Not a good decision.
It’s a bit of a porker, but I’m sure it’s a nice car.
I'll stick with my old leaf 😂 8 years old and 0 $ spent and I can get the battery repaired unlike those new blade battery's.
How’s Tesla and Geely???:????
Sounds like BYD should have delayed this car till Blade 2.0 comes out with its improved density
... just curious... how much $ debt is BYD carrying... so far ... ?
BYD debt to equity ratio is 0.32. Anything less than 2.0 is good
@robocop581 ... how many $b is BYD's debt... ? ... I saw the number $72b...
Got it. Not close to a Tesla.
It’s a dangerous game to criticize a MaoMobile, Sam!
in china the range numbers are super inflated.
500 chinese km = 400 european WLTP km = 350 EPA km
A none driven review based on another review,based on another opinion. This is why i encourage everyone to ignore car journalists reviews and actually go and test drive and form your own opinions. After all, you're paying for it. Not another RUclips bobble head.
you never try it yourself and yet you post this video ??? 😂
says enough, right :)
There is a reason why there is denza and yangwang.. why are you expecting byd to go premium when created another brand that goes premium? this is simple logic, why cant it register in your head.
So it has the same weight as BMW M5 😅
Heavy weight cars don't works in South East Asia. I've seen a Tesla drive same speed with Toyota Yaris over a bridge. The Toyota look normal but the Tesla look like drive over a huge bump, the wheel travel so much and the whole car look almost jump 1 feet.
Large suvs and pickup trucks are not suitable for long-range electric vehicles. They are too heavy. Small city hatchbacks charge faster and travel further. Because they have smaller batteries and weight less.
BYD 👍
20%ish less efficient than other
BYD cars are surprisingly heavy and inefficient, more a low cost volume manufacturer than tech leader it seems which makes sense for the Chinese market.
It isn't a direct rival to squat without USA sales, cmon
Sorry Sam you're wrong on this one and you know it hence the clickbait title. Make you're own research and post that to begin with. Don't just go of someone else's (perhaps biased) test.
Who buys a Hyun'Die' these days?
It needed to be said, and it was said. Thank you Viking for being objective and speaking the truth. I love BYD, hopefully they do not derive from improving their efficiency for producing so many models so fast. I agree with you.
Too many adverts!
RUclips premium is glorious
no car compares to the tesla's - safety, fsd , performance for the price there is no rival despite what Sam thinks
Hey old mate. Typical Byd bashing again. 150 kw charging is perfect for Australia! Tell me how many chargers in Australia can do more than 150kwh? Let alone 300+!
Soft suspension? Far out . Have to cross off my list.
In a world where the only permanent thing is Change, Tesla Rules!
Whichever way you look at it, Chinese cars have taken over the world market. Especially the Zeeker 7X. Leaving European and Japanese cars, way behind.
Another reason not to buy a BYD
waiting for Xiaomi to build RHD SU7
Heavier weight is the cost of doing LFP. If you're comparing directly to the lighter xpeng g6 ...if it's the long range that's NMC.
If the Sealion 7 is a Seal on stilts, they have my money again. Love my Seal Performance. Charging speed isnt the fastest, its softly sprung, its not a 3 series, and ADAS was annoying until its update. And? And ive read the Sealion 7 will have the full 390kw in AWD form with a 4.5S on the boot lid. And these other cars have this and that and have longer ranges etc, so they say. But we dont know yet, do we? Havent seen any journo drive one yet. And lastly, a "perched" driving position, its an SUV isnt it? Didnt know it was a 911 GT3 with seating needing to be on the floor. Click bait as far as im concerned.
So you are talking about journalistic integrity while reviewing a car that you have never even driven or sat on. Really?
Elliot said and Elliot found out. Thanks, but no thanks.
I am sure the car is not perfect, but it has a lot going for it in terms of fit for purpose, interior design, finish and I have actually found the driving experience to be top notch both in comfort and resonsiveness. But you would not know this, because you have never driven this car nor do you intend to do so.
Mover 2500 kg nao e facil e em hibrido e uma desgraca....precisam se baterias que deem autonomia minima de 1000 klms e com forca suficiente para mover 2.5 ton e xarregamentos em 5 minutos.
Can you imagine the problems owners will face when some of the electronics on these cars start to go wrong?
Nope. Electronics usually stop working due to sensors. Much easier to fix than mechanical issues.
@santoshrathod123 Exactly right. However, if BMW is anything to go by with such problems they start off with resetting the code and saying 'should be fixed now', when it's not and breaks down at an inconvenient time. When sensors start to fail they can throw misleading codes in other adjacent areas which in some instances can create a real problem for both drivers and the dealership, who most times don't have enough experience or time to follow up hunches or deep-dive into systems. This leaves the owner without their car for possibly weeks at a time and a feeling of disappointment or anger. If you keep going back with the same unresolved issue most dealerships start to get fed up seeing you.
Like ICE cars then, all modern cars packed with electronics.
probably the same as ICE cars
typical to german cars..... my AMG rain sensor gone wild after 2 years.....
PITY ITS ONLY A EV WHY NOT A PLUG IN HYBRID LIKE THE 6 WONT BUY JUST A EV
Wow, totally surprised at Made In China Rubbish
بي وي دي تفضل صناع وتطوير السيارات الهايبر ولا تركز على تطوير سياراتها الكهربائية بشكل كافي
من يريد هايبرد ياخد بي وي دي
ومن يريد سيارة كهربائية ياخد احد سيارات زيكر وإذا كنت في أمريكا خذ هيونداى
@joejimmy8088 Many people buy a Tesla in the US just to not deal with unreliable third party charging companies. So Hyundai not going to be as popular.