How Powerful Is The NEW Steam Hardware Survey PC?
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024
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I test the most common hardware configuration on steam based on the Oct 2024 hardware survey using the most played games on steam.
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Steam does not have a fixed number of users, I don't think many people are downgrading. I believe more people are just upgrading and buying into 16gb and 1080p from nothing or lower specs. If 1000 people bought their first PCs at 1080p it would reduce the relative percent of 1440p users even if no one downgraded.
I downgraded. My 1440p monitor broke, so now my secondary 1080p monitor is my main. For now.
Yup, more new pc owners and/or survey participants.
You have to put Samsung's Odyssey curved monitors into the equation. They break after like 2 months and then they refuse your warranty.
And considering that they are among the most popular 1440p monitors...
i mean it's dawid we can't expect much from the boi
@@masterkamen371 It's a shame too since waaay back in the day their monitors were bullet proof. The 4x3 Samsung monitor I bought back in high school still worked just fine till my parents stopped using it a few years ago.
128MB of vram according to steam surveys 99% likely to do with Intel iGPUs, its normally set to 128MB by default in the BIOS settings but the OS automatically allocates more vram when needed.
As someone who does not exist I'm severely offended.
sorry we dont care about non existing peoples opinions 😉
so did you convert from simplified Chinese to English?🤪
As a fellow non existant user, i am not offended but I am amused.
I will go back playing some games now. My non existant existance is of no concern to me, BC I don't exist.
Also trolls can't find you, or so I am told.
I don't know who you are!
it's not that , other stuff doesn't exist it's just used in such a small percentage of steam users that it fits into the "Other" box ... like my 4080 super.
0:10 no wayyyy
He has cams on us fr
Literally was about to do that lol
How???
He got me ☝🏾
Holy shit you guys too?
Yes according to the Steam Hardware Survey my RX 7900 XT doesn't exist. But the RX 7900 XTX does exist apparently.
My 8800 XT isn’t on the list either 😢
I also have this issue. lol.
@@gorillagroddgaming think there's a reason for that...
Yet it says only 0.38% for the XTX idk.
Not even the best GPU deal from the generation the 7800xt has a decent percentage and I built 2 PCs with those this year...
I wouldn't trust the Steam Survey that much. I've never got it even once on my main PC, which has all AMD (and ran Linux for a while), but I've got it countless time on old laptops, on test rigs, on Macs and even once on a Raspberry Pi 400. The fact that you can't control WHEN you get it means it basically ignores every people who owns multiple machines and you usually gets it after a new install, computers that are a few years old, but still recent, are ignored, so there's a big bias on brand new computers, cheap used parts and laptops.
I'm all AMD, and I've gotten the survey. It does not happen often though. My GF has Nvidia/AMD and she has also only gotten it once.
The amount of people in these comments thinking Dawid was serious about his reasoning saying people where downgrading is funnier than the actual video.
It gets them to leave a comment end engagement is the metric.
It’s hilarious.
To be fair it's still a fairly valid point. People should learn how hardware in their PC works, so they can fix it if there are issues instead of relying on a limited tech support. I bet most people buying prebuilds don't even know the difference between DDR4 and DDR5 speeds.
If there's anything I've learned, it's that Dawid comments LOVE to get triggered by literally anything they see
He just makes entertainment. He doesn't make anything even remotely resembling actual PC Hardware that you should take seriously
My system meets the general spec pretty much perfectly.
I have a Ryzen 5 5600X, RTX 3060 12G, and 16GB of ram with a 1tb ssd and a few other storage drives. It's good to know my system is still pretty relevant considering I built it only two years ago.
The slight down-tick in RAM is because the steamdeck is 16gb. It's probably not even truly people "downgrading" but just more 16gb systems being added to the stats.
I think the 2nd most popular handheld is the ROG Ally and that ALSO has 16gb
Doesn't the steam deck run Linux? Surprised to see Linux so low on the list since the steam deck is pretty popular.
Handhelds should be able to have their own survey sheet because although "they are still a computer" it's not the same
@@volvo09 Aye, that's the reason Arch linux is so high on the list.
@@volvo09sure, it’s popular among people who actively game, but dwarfed by the number of us filthy casuals who have Steam installed on all of our machines but rarely actually use it
Could it also be from people switching from DDR4 to DDR5?
Most people are not down-grading. There are just more people entering the PC gaming industry as beginners, and these beginners are starting with less powerful systems.
Yeah, and sacrificing RAM at a time when you really do need more than 16GB for a solid experience in modern AAA games just so they can 'get on the new platform' with a Ryzen 7500F and the slowest DDR5 you can find, which will perform the same or worse than DDR4 costing half the price.
If I see one more 7500F/7800XT build with 16GB of DDR5 at 5200 MT/s and half a TB of storage on Reddit, I'm probably gonna get myself banned with my response.
A real Bueller moment. The 5700XT was right there. $200. And $70 for a very nice used AM4 MB. You can get a 32GB kit of quality used DDR4-3600 for like $35. You could use the leftover $ to get a better GPU and/or more storage. I have 3.5TB in my main PC. And it is starting to feel like it is only an adequate amount. Get a 5700X3D and you won't need a platform upgrade until AM6 comes along, with even better X3D chips with more cache and 10GT/s DDR5 CU-DIMM.
At this point, every time I hear the words 'dead platform' come out of a RUclipsr's mouth, I unsubscribe.
In 30 years of building gaming PCs, I've never seen anything like AM4 and probably never will again. And when you have 3 CPUs on AM4 that will outperform an Ultra 9 285K in the vast majority of games, it ain't dead yet.
I got a 50% increase in my framerate in Cyberpunk with a 5700X3D upgrade. I've never been able to say that before about a CPU upgrade, not even back in the days when the CPU did most of the work running a game. Keep in mind, that's a 50% increase on a locked framerate - basically increased the cap I could set and never see a frame drop from 60fps to 90fps. Granted, Cyberpunk is often CPU cache limited but even in other, less CPU dependent titles I saw far more improvement than I'd ever expect to see from a $200 CPU replacing a $100 CPU within the same generation.
The 1650 was used by many of the prebuilt companies for their lower-end "gaming" systems. Stick one of those and some RGB fans in an otherwise office box and you have a "gaming" PC. Plenty of people are still using them, so no surprise it was 4th.
Also, the 1650 and 3060 laptop/desktop are not differenciated on the steam survey which leads to bigger numbers.
The 4060 should actually be at the top of the chart if we were not makeing the difference.
I sold a PC with a 1650 this year.
@@MasoMathiouthing is 3060 laptops were pretty much equally powerful to the desktop 3060 bar the VRAM difference
Same with most of the last GTX GPUs
The reality is, while we all watch reviews and talk about the latest and greatest, a majority of people are on mid-tier equipment from a few years ago, because that's how real life works. The perceived "downgrade" in resolution may actually be a result of older hardware that could run 1440p in its day, but may be more playable at 1080p on newer titles.
Reviews and analyses like these are incredibly beneficial to the community. Knowing where your system falls compared to the average can help in making purchasing and budgeting decisions, and helps to ground us back to reality when all we hear about is 50-series and 98-billion-X3Ds all day.
Thank you, Dawid. :)
Can't wait for my next PC with a dual-core CPU and 8 gigs of RAM for that sweet 720p gaming experience
alot of people buy such potato gaming pcs, still very capable on alot of games
Niiice. Sick downgrade coming your way. 😂
@@betag24cn And here I am playing Crysis at 1440p like an idiot🤦♂
😂
Are you from the future?
Steam deck and Mobile playing thingies of all flavor's is what changing the numbers so weirdly
2% on Linux and 95% of them because of handhelds. It also shows the handheld trend isn't as big as they try to make you think. Don't worry, you're not going to die from FOMO and this is a fad. I chuckle at all the Tech Tubers who are in their 30s and 40s buying them. Like, when are you actually going to use it. If you can't afford the time to sit down and have a gaming session at a real PC, you also don't have the time to sit around playing a handheld. Probably nice for long flights but other than that, it is money wasted on a child's toy.
@@Lurch-Botactually if you look at the Linux only metrics, you can see that handhelds are around 50% of Linux users
@@Lurch-Botif you actually looked at the people using it and not sticking with your preconceived ideas, you'll actually see that some people prefer the handheld form factor.
It is crazy when you check out the steam data because it shows how many people use older hardware is wild.
people like us who watch tech channels are the weirdos, to be completely honest
I defend my recent AM4 build from my pc friends because we exist on the cutting edge, yet I show it off to my normie friends because they have a PS4 and have never seen a gaming pc with rgb in person before
most steam users are those normies
@@SAVikingSA bruh were watching this channel were the gd normies
Yes, there are people that broke but I think the lion's share of the older hardware reflected on the survey is in retro gaming PCs. Like the 128MB VRAM. Having recently dealt with plenty of 10+ year old intel hardware, I've never seen less than 512MB being allocated for iGPU usage. I have seen evidence in BIOSes that you can set as low as 128MB in many cases but who is going to do that on a PC they're gaming on? No, those 128MB VRAM numbers primarily reflect retro gamers. The unfortunate thing is they don't bother to tell us who has even less VRAM. I am certain that someone out there is playing HL on a Windows 10 PC with an old Voodoo GPU in Glide mode. Not hard to do. Just stick an old PCI GPU in a Core 2 machine. You probably need some custom drivers but I guarantee someone out there has made them.
Steam always asks me to participate when I'm on my laptop instead of my gaming pc.
Nothing weird with 1080p still being popular, it strikes a decent balance between looking nice while still being affordable in terms of running a new game on max settings.
My take: 1440p / 4K medium looks better than 1080p high and uses about the same amount of processing power. With 4K on a 27/28" display AA can be switched off, which regains some of the losses.
1080p with everything maxed out is perfectly fine when you're only a foot from the screen
Especially since you can get high refresh 1080p screens very easily nowadays
anything lower than 1440p looks pixelated unless you use a CRT.
upgrading to a 1440p resolution means pretty much upgrading everything else on your pc if u want to keep the same smooth "experience"
@@gonderAmh yeah but that have nothing to do with my statement. :)
5:54 I suppose that wouldn’t surprise me if people are trying out 1440p then go back to 1080p when their cards can’t take advantage of a 1440p monitor, only way that would really make sense but would seem like a very niche group of people
I used a 4k TV and decided to try a 1440p monitor to see if the doubled refresh rate felt better. But going from a big 4k TV at 60Hz to a small 1440p monitor at 120Hz felt terrible. Returned the 1440p and stuck with my 4k. I absolutely never understand people looking for high FPS over everything else. I'll crank up every graphics setting I can until I'm pushing 45 FPS and then stick with that.
people are not downgrading their ram or desktop resolution, its new steam users who are buying in at entry point
Yeah, wanna bet it's all the people who saw the price of the PS5 Pro and said "fuck that" ?
Nah, I'm kidding, console gamers will never learn. They love paying $80 for a gamepad.
he lies my system is not what steam users have as I have a 5950X 128 gigs of ddr4 ram 50 terabytes or more of storage space and an rtx 3070
Also Steam counts all the monitors you have, not just the primary one, so I guess some people are adding more 1080p as secundary monitors
maybe wrong 32GB ddr4 costs the same as 16gb DDR5. People are just upgrading to new gen on cheap IMO is part reason
Youre a bit slow huh?@raven4k998
I honestly love the use of an actual paper pad D.
4:57 We got Dawid throwing up "gang signs" before GTA 6
PCMR gang gang
@@deathstrom5085 why does that have a translate
@@edanorourke1843Apparently this is "Norwegian"
5:57 No Dawid, you do not understand how to read data xD
As many in the comments said, it doesn't mean that many are downgrading RAM or resolution, but that there are more systems using those reduced "specs" in this survey in comparison with the past survey, which can be due to a number of reasons: new users using new budget options, broken displays or RAM problems etc, but most importantly, not everyone will get the chance to participate in the steam hardware survey each time, so results can vary from survey to survey inconsistently. (Also, intel is down in the gutters but many still have an intel cpu from 2015-now)
My whole system is amd. I runs a 3600x, 7800xt and four 8gb ram sticks, it’s may not win a popularity contest or beauty pageant or really anything, but it works
You got a good solid set up, bro. You could still swap out the CPU and get a nice boost too. No reason to if you are happy with it. IDK but I am quite happy with mine giving me ~100 FPS or so in the games I do play. Monitors are the limiting fsactor BTW, only up to 100Hz.
Have fun.
I'm looking to upgrade shortly to a 7800xt with a 3700x so almost the same so good to see - what PSU do you have? Will leave a CPU upgrade for a while, think when that is needed I'll change to AM5 or whatever comes next!
Mine's got a 7900 XT and a R9 5900X with 32gb of RAM. Pretty decent rig for VR, and only really plan on the next upgrade being an X3D chip on AM6 whenever that happens.
I had a 3600x until its ram controller burnt out requiring a cpu change. 1 new mobo, gpu and psu later and Im now a proud owner of a 5800x3d. Still a great cpu if you dont mind staying on am4.
@@zeberto1986nothing wrong with am4
Got 2 systems both on the 5700x3d - one with a 3070 the other a 4070TiS (and still no cpu bottleneck)
Ah the "mythical" steam Survey that I can't remember last time i did it.
Anyone else get the urge to do 80's-style aerobics when Dawid's music starts playing in his videos?
Yup. I literally start jiggling in my seat 😂
It's like a Taibo tape
@12:40 - Love how the 1650 warns you against using it. :P
Just got my new PC delivered to me on Saturday there, went with a budget offering and ended up with a Ryzen 5600 & RX6600 8GB with 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance at 3600mhz plus gen 4 nvme 1 TB drive and Windows 11 Home. It seemed to be a nice price to performance balance (but I am no expert).
Pretty solid rig but that 6600 might choke on newer (unoptimized) games, plus the 5600 OCs pretty well.
@@MoultrieGeek The 6600 will give 1080p around 100 FPS in mnay many games. OP might have to drop settings a bit here and there but TBH it is just fine. And the CPU could still be upgraded and no reason to make any other changes right now.
Good on you. Decent system, nicely balanced for 1080p. Still could upgrade theCPU should you need a few more cores. For a new out-of-the-box system, you be in good shape. Hace fun, game on!
That's definitely a good performance to cost set up :)
@@richardgarrett2792 Agreed, for the vast majority of 1080p games a 6600 runs great, it's only a handful of AAA games that insist on forcing ray tracing that it will stumble.
6 seconds in and I’m attacked with “Unless you’re on the toilet watching this on your phone…”
They should look into why so many Chinese speakers woke up one morning and discovered they were only speaking in English now.
Its bots getting banned, a huge percentage of the "Chinese" user base is bots, internet cafes and other such things, very few real chinese users exist as Steams global app is banned in China
I doubt it happened at all
@@jablue4329 im doubting your doubt (joking)
That must have ruined their day, especially if they still lived in China. 😂
There was a glitch in the latest update for the universal translator.
For some weird reason( activision), on steam you get 50% less fps compared to playing it on battlenet. I dont know why this happens but it just does. This was a HILARIOUS video, really enjoyed it. :)
I know a few people who sold their 1440p monitors for a 1080p higher refresh rate one, they're dirt cheap now so you get money in your pocket and a decent monitor, especially if you're only playing competitive games.
idk, I have my 1440p monitor for a few years, and I'm not going back to 1080p. Not unless it's get broken, at least. And it's already 165hz, which is waaaaaay more than enough for me.
I've been using a widescreen 1440p monitor and swapped it out for a 165hz 1080p display on the desk, been a perfectly good excuse to use the old 1440p as a display for watching movies in bed
Lol, trying to hit 16 pixels worth of opponent from a distance on a 1440p monitor is a lot easier than trying to hit the 4 pixels you get at 1080p. Framerate isn't everything and whoever is trading in their 1440p monitor for a high refresh 1080p monitor really doesn't get how PC graphics work. Can't hit what you can't see, even at 1000fps. Meanwhile, I like being able to go sniping with a holo sight.
My rig:
CPU: i9 13900KS
Cooler: Nochta NH-d15 - Black
GPU: MSI 4090 / 24 GB VRAM
RAM: 128 GB Corsair Dominator @ 5000 mt/s
Storage: 11 TB of Samsung 990 Pro
Motherboard: MSI z790 Carbon
PSU: EVGA 1600w
Case: Fractal Torrent
Stopping steam hardware survey from saying first
Steam hardware surgery if it were based: keep grinding keep hustling shoot for your dreams. Anything is possible. Don’t ever get up.
Speed poster edit, absolute genius and hilarious 👌🏻
I'd love nothing more than to snuggle on the couch and discuss game settings with you Dawid
I’m so blessed 😂
@@AnnaDoes 😭
As someone who spends a fair amount of time on forums for hardware and games, I was definitely surprised that 1440p wasn't the dominant resolution. Even my nephew, who is only on console, was looking at getting a 1440p monitor for his Xbox Series X. But I was also surprised at how few people use 4k TVs. I guess some people really prefer FPS over everything else. I only need 45 FPS to be happy with a game's performance, so I use my 4070ti on my 4k TV with a second 1080p TV to the side. I got rid of my 1440p 120Hz monitor in favor of my 4k TV because the TV was both cheaper (on a size/cost ratio perspective) and better for my needs.
The drop in RAM is probably people upgrading from DDR4 to DDR5, since it's roughly 1.5-2x the price in the US if I had to guess.
Doesn't really make sense imho. The recommended spec for a ddr5 system is 32gb owing to the reduced bandwidth of 8gb ddr5 dimms. Unless prebuilt companies have been gimping their systems with 2x8s and 1x16s...
More likely it's just more 5600+16gb/12400+16gb/AIO handhelds being thrown into the system.
@@GioDrago Not that odd. Windows systems need 32GB of ram to work well. 3 out of my 4 systems have 32GB DDR4 and the other one has 16GB DDR4. It's only being used as a media PC pretty much and has a R5 3600 cpu and RTX3050 gpu.
Pay twice as much for some cheap DDR5 so you can have the new platform, along with worse RAM performance than you'd get from some cheap DDR4. Future proofing is a lie and being an early adopter is a waste of money. How do I know this? Been doing this for over 30 years. I eat GN videos for breakfast and crap benchmark numbers.
I just wanted to say keep up the good work. Your sarcasm and metaphors are on point!
6:00 I think what's happening is that more and more people are stepping away from desktop CPUs and switching to gaming laptops as their "primary" gaming rig - hence the mobile RTX 4060 being the #2 most popular GPU. As most gaming laptops are still 1080p, that explains the gain in 1080p and loss in 1440p.
It's also not necessarily that people are moving away from 1440p, it's just that the market SHARE of 1440p goes down as the amount of people on 1080p laptops go UP.
All that aside, even for PCs, 1080p monitors are still really popular on the budget range, or people thinking they don't need anything more.
Yes i think so too and at the same time 4k stays stable and 1440p loses even more percent is because people upgrade from 1440p to 4k
Maybe they have 8gb cards that work much better at 1080p, not everone spends $800+ for 1440p card its much easier to buy $100 monitor or maybe have one gathering dust from a 1440p upgrade
we only listen to linus wheb he wants to complain about nvodia or any other company, the rest, is as linux, very open
while there are alot of lost souls buying laptops for gaming, it is more likeoy that numbers of steam users increased alot and they have potato pcs usibg barely 1080p with 16 gbs of ddr3 ram
As someone who uses the same PC case (Corsair 4000D) and watching this from the toilet, I feel attacked
i dont think those people are downgrading , but steam users are increasing
It was a joke, though some users probably have downgraded it does happen when things die
Don't care what the survey says, I have been all AMD for about 4 years and my 6950xt w/ fluid motion frame 2 does 4k at 120-130 fps (sometimes more). It's surprising to me when someone says Radeon sucks. I have to argue that synopsis.
I love how Dawid just says Call of Duty 47 randomly
omg DeadP47 reference?!!!
Dawid's CPU tonguewag (6:16) is now required in all his episodes. Even if his entire life is (all by itself) an episode.
The specs “getting worse” is not downgrading but non-tech geek subscribing to Steam driving up middle of the road spec that are very common on affordable pre-builts. Love your channel!
So without knowing the population sizes, their distributions, location, and more data, I don't think you should make assumptions on social trends via percentages *across from one set to another*. Some percentages like binary comparators - like AMD vs Intel, are safe to make assumptions on - but across a discrete set of values modeled as a distribution, some fallacies can surface. All of the statistical information may be within a margin of error depending on any number of statistics, but I would argue the biggest contributor is due to an increase in the total number of users completing the survey, as the world modernizes. Because the influx of new users in conjunction with the fact that the "other" category contains items like 14, 20, or 10 gig variants, which are possible, but unusual, this can provide enough of a reason for this left-skewed graph to appear shifting left. But when you change how you look at the distribution, by doing something like normalization to adjust for skew, I believe that you'd find it is just increasing in curvature around the common mean distribution - I.E. polarizing more. Furthermore, you should not make an assumption on a relationship between categories like ram configuration from one season to the other, as availability, configuration, speed, and any number of contributors may also be taken into account to be given an accurate representation of trends. I say this because: People are not downgrading their PC's, more people are getting low-end gaming rigs or upgrading the speed of their ram, not the size. As RAM configurations have become more stagnant, other than speed, available entry level gaming CPU's have increased in logical core counts, which would provide a good entry level pc.
The biggest upgrade from 1080p60 would be 1080p120/144 etc. Also my 5700xt would like a word with the slightly slower 3060.
This is totally correct. I myself and bunch of my friends converted into English from Chinese last month.
I don't think people are down grading. What could be happening is more new PC owners are coming in at 1080 while some 1440 users move up and on. Also worth noting the other devices entering steam like the steam deck.
1080p is the new peasant resolution. You gotta look at the drop in 720p numbers too. With the exception of 1440p, 4k and modern widescreen resolutions, all the others represented reflect retro gamers for the most part. Except 1366x768, which is an older, primarily laptop oriented resolution that was also used in netbooks until fairly recently. And, if you're a kid with a crappy netbook, you're going to go on Steam and find something you can play on it. HL and HL2 will run great on a netbook or older laptop. You could even play CS2 on a netbook, though it won't be pretty.
13:05 Glad im not the only one who has to sit on that screen for 30 seconds or so on bootup. It JUST started happening and I run a 9700x and a 7800xt, def a CoD issue
Man, i did so much to disappear from the charts with an AMD 3700x, AMD RX 6800 16G, 1440p display on Linux Mint 22, but you got me with the 16G RAM. There we have it, i am mainstream.
you MB might support the 5800x3d, which aren't too pricy anymore?
I have that along with a Pulse 6800 and 32G; also 1440p, but Windose
@@stephen1r2 Dude, i never knew my old B450 chipped Asrock Motherboard would support Series 5000. Only a bios upgrade required. And a 5800x3D seems quite a leap in performance. Thanks man, ill do some considerations.
@@stephen1r2 edit: the 5800x3D is 800 freedom dollars in my region, but the 5700x3D is at 200
@@matzesstift Should just get the 5700x3D then. It's not that much worse.
Bro, you just made my entire day. I’ve been looking for a snuggle buddy for awhile. Come here bro!
5:09 i have 256mb vram
I forgot what my igpu has
Good stuff - Your delivery is enlivening.
I wonder if it is people like me that are buying used LGA1150 boards with used i7 4770k and used gtx 1070-1080 then throw them in a new case and power supply.
Around $250 and it runs everything i want.
@6:01 I'm one of the people who downgraded from 1440p to 1080p. The reason was my monitor. I had a regular old 1440p monitor with a 60hz refresh rate, but then I found this really nice 1080p monitor with 165hz refresh rate, Gsync, and HDR. It was quite affordable and to me it was actually an upgrade, despite the drop in resolution.
Steam hardware survey just tells you most people on steam are using $500-1000 prebuilts. 😂
No, I think there's a lot using old laptaps.
I guess that is pretty mutch right. And those 500-1500€ prebuilt pc:s are way overpriced, like my friend is looking to get pc on black friday sale and while i looked what prebuilt there is, pc that cost 700€ if you build it yourself on same kinda prebuilt cost more like 1200€
Gaming laptops probably skew it more, tbh
@@Drewtheelder 1366x768. Was used on netbooks commonly until fairly recently. You can probably still buy a brand new netbook with 1366x768 resolution. I wouldn't call it 'a lot' though. Aside from that, 720p, 1080p, 1440p and 2160p, along with widescreen equivalents, the rest of the resolutions mainly reflect retro gamers. Same goes for the 128MB video cards. That would actually be total overkill for playing HL. Too bad they don't show anything lower because I bet someone out there is playing HL on Steam with a RIVA TNT2, lol.
I have multiple older machines reflected in the survey, along with my modern gaming PC and laptop.
CS2 makes me paranoid. I really need to turn the fps counter off.
While I don't exist, in my defense, the i3-13100F perform about the same if not, better than the i5-12400F in games that can't utilize more than 8 threads
Someone should definitely be making videos like this and I'm really glad it's you!
I still can't believe how many people are playing something like CS2 on a gpu with a price tag of half of my entire build
Don't understand why people play cs2 in 2024 at all regardless. There's so many better more modern shooters
I see this as an absolute win tbh
Games built to run on any potatoes are games that eventually build culture. When your game demands a $300+++ GPU downpayment to run, you're pricing out a lotta kids- kids who would otherwise be raving about your game all the way to school.
@@XuroX. Like what lol. Except PUBG I dont see any shooters game coming close to CS in term of game experience.
So because people plays CS2 should we assume that they don't play any AAA games as well?
I used to play CS but that did not prevent me to play RDR2, TW3, BG3 and many other great games.
@@gonderAmh Would like to say CS:GO but obviously Valve made it very clear that they didn't want their better previous game to be a competitor to CS2 and killed it, disregarding millions of CS:GO purchases from customers.
Just a note for CS2. If you're playing locally with bots, it's running the AI on your CPU, therefore netting less FPS. For a more accurate experience, you'd need to be online where it's just loading the data of player positions rather than processing all the bot actions.
I love how dawid just refuses to register that since the previous survey, more people bought computers.
The amount of chances his brain has to catch up to this fact is astounding.
he knows, he was trying to be funny
I love how literal most clowns are in the comments and totally miss his sarcasm.
An important thing to remember is that it's a survey. Small fluctuations from one survey to the next is normal, depending on the sample and sample size. I don't know if they release the confidence level. What would be more telling for trends is if you look at them over a longer period of time than one month. Then, you remove even more survey variance.
Look how pixelated my face is whilst lying on the couch with Dawid.
I've always shown love for 1080p.
My ram is at 32GB with my i7 10700. This is way more ram than a PC needs to play games which is why new PCs will tend to have 16GB.
7800XT drives my 3x monitors 32" 1920x1080, 22" 1920x1080 and my third is in portrait 27" 1080x2560.
My setup makes most visitors brains hurt but it works well to play games while streaming using OBS and chatting on Discord and watching Twitch chat which still leaves me with half a monitor for other things like Spotify or listening to youtube videos while streaming
3:09 too many people buy prebuilts, and OEMs like to shove intel in prebuilts. Especially now that intel is imploding and people building pcs are buying AMD, creating an oversaturation of unsold intel chips, that probably get sold in bulk for a discount to OEMs to get rid of them.
Intel gives some amazing bulk discounts to OEMs unfortunately
For some reason i get the hardware survey on every PC i set up but my main one. So Valve thinks i have the igpu on my laptop and not a 4070 😂
0:01 brother I was pooping didn’t have to call me out like that!
I think the survey results reflect a couple of things. First, many older PCs can still play a lot of games. Maybe not the best experience, but they can still play them OK at 1080p. The second, based on the the apparent number of i5 systems and 60 series NVidia cards, is that many folks on Steam are likely using pre-built systems labeled as gaming PCs in the $1000-$1500 USD range.
sat here with a time bomb (14900k) and a rtx 4090 and yes i do not exist
At least nobody will notice when your PC explodes since it doesn't exist.
Man, you always have the most clever video ideas. Appreciate you man, always a pleasure.
as a genshin player i can confirm that i forfeited all my ram money for furina
while I still believe that the steam hardware survey is a fantastic method of getting an understanding of the lowest common denominator in terms of hardware specs, understanding methodology of the survey is very important as well. month to month, only a small subset of steam users are invited to take the survey, and it's always a different sample set of those who chose to share the specs. and it's quite a small sampling (thousands) so it's easy for the numbers to be all over the place from month to month.
meanwhile im here using a 7800x3d and 4080 super to play runescape and core keeper like an idiot. (i need to try higher end games but im stuck in my comfort zone)
I'm using a 7840hs and a 4060 laptop to play counter strike source 😂
Yeah you’re just a consumer. You’ll probably upgrade every generation and spend thousands on a 5090 to get 13 more fps
@@gorillagroddgaming actually in my 30 years ive only ever had 3/4 pcs (i dont count work). a cheap family one as a kid. a laptop in college and this was my first self made pc. i dont plan on upgrading for a long time. not sure why you got hostile for no reason. People can afford stuff you know.
@@gorillagroddgaming Or they could of had some extra money laying around thought hey i have had this PC for 10 years i should upgrade. Then wont spend money again on a PC for another 10 years.
90% of "'gamers" dont play AAA game on PC on regular basis. These RUclips channel testing AAA game are way off. AAA market in the PC WORLD is a niche market. Most people gaming on PC play competitve games
6:09 - the people are not downgrading, people are either upgrading from stuff even lower than 1080p to 1080p, or new users are joining with 1080p monitors, or people are starting to use more and more dual monitor or triple monitor setups and use 1080p monitors for those.
People aren't downgrading, The thing happening here is just more people are getting to the pc world and some stuff which led to it getting less %
yes, and some people don't do the survey all the time so that can be factor aswell.
You do realise he is joking?
As a data analyst, I applaud your very correct assumptions and logic used in this video. 😅
Nobody willing downgrads, be real.
Yeah he isn't reading the data fully correctly lol
It's an obvious joke
I love your stats conclusion. Very accurate ones.
Thanks for your video!
the one thing ive noticed about the steam hardware survey is ALOT of people have garbage PCs.
“The ability to conceptualize that a platform gains and loses users over time may not be developed until late adulthood, especially if your name is Dawid”
- Jean Piaget, probably
The public Steam Hardware Survey combines Desktops, Laptops and Cybercafes (which are still very popular in many places in the world).
OS Version - New laptops sell with Win11 (most people don’t know you can downgrade to Win10)
System RAM - Laptops
Physical CPUs - mostly Ryzen 5 CPU’s (boosted by cheap “Gaming” rigs with APU’s only)
Primary Display Resolution - Laptops
Gaming cafes is a great point, especially in varying countries. I immediately thought of steamdeck and cheap pre-builts, but I forgot about the cafe market.
I didn't expect a steam hardware to be this funny! Top work Dawid
I have a laptop with the 4060 Mobile GPU and the reason why it's second on the list is because most budget gaming laptops have 4050 or 4060, mainly the Lenovo LOQs that are the cheapest to offer a 4060. They have Pretty good deals and the 4060 on laptop with the max TDP actually performs quite similarly to the desktop 4060 which I thought was pretty good for me when I found out about it
When you download Call of Duty, it also downloads all the DLCs that come with it, which are the older titles that come included. Thats why when youre done downloading, it starts downloading again; its the DLC being downloaded. You can disable the download of the DLCs which takes up around half of the total size.
I’m running Ryzen 7 5800x, 16gb ddr5 3600 ram with a RTX 3060TI and very happy with the gaming experience I’m getting, as my MSI monitor is only 1080 most game run on ultra no probs.
Dawid: “brags about saying Linux right”
Also Dawid: “calls ram rum”
5:56 I recently downgraded from my older LG 27gn950-b 4K 160Hz monitor, to the Alienware aw2723df 1440P 280Hz monitor, 4K resolution was too demanding for my RTX 2080ti graphicscard, & even with a RTX 4090 games like Silent hill 2, Alan wake 2, Dragons dogma 2, sometimes run under 60FPS @ 4k. Alot of people I know are going back to 1440p because 4k is just too demanding!
I went back to my 1440p because my 7900XTX wasn't up to par on 4K. I just couldn't do it. The high refresh of 1440p is just the perfect spot.
Lots of people have already brought up the idea that steam might be getting more new entry-level users than there are people who are upgrading. That could be true, but you also have to realize that any survey has a margin of error, even if there isn't one published. This is true of the Steam Hardware Survey too, so when you see minor fluctuations of 1%, that could just be statistical noise and it's not worth taking too seriously.
1:58 history would tell us “no, absolutely not”, but as a 50/50 Mac user I really wish it did
2:01 Of course Arch Linux would be at the top of the linux list (currently using it btw)!
As someone who plays Genshin Impact I'm curious if Dawid knows who that character is lol. She is very entetaining!
Genshin is a mobile game at heart but somewhat surprisingly intensive at higher settings even on PC. A GT 710 can't run it well even at 720p while GTA V would be able to run. Yet, it's light enough the a GTX 660 can maintain 1080p30 at max settings. This Steam PC wouldn't have any issues at all of course.
Regarding folks downgrading, you may have a lot of newer users. Keep in mind we are only a couple of years out of 2020/2021 when gpu prices went crazy. For example you can pick up something like an rx 5700xt or rx 6600 relatively cheap. Plus you can take older office PCs and upgrade them as costs have done down a bit and companies are having to upgrade for windows 11 compatibility it’s probably cheaper to target 1080p.
Realistically I run 1440p and yes it’s great and I’ve got a 6800xt so I’m set for a while on that. But if I were tight on money, 1080p still looks good.
I think the ram decrease is because ddr5 is more expensive typically, so people upgrading their whole system need to save that extra money for like, GPU or CPU upgrade
the negative percentages dont mean they are dropping in numbers, but mean that the other ones are growing. more people are getting on steam on 1080p for example, and the market share for taht is going upwards, which also makes the other ones drop.
Video & comments both smirk inducing.
I'm never switching from 1080P. It's nice to be able to run any game on max settings and get high framerate.
I had a 1440p monitor for a few years, but when it was time to get a new one I really don't play at good framerates above 1080p with my hardware anyway, so I went for a 1080p monitor which I've been very happy with. I wouldn't think that's really a trend, but it happened in my case!