Someone Dead Ruined My Life… Again.

Neat

Nice to see you here!

The greatest minds gather themselves on places you would never expect

You two should do some kind of colab where you make/prove some kind of physics claim and Grey has to dive endlessly into the historical significance

Hahaha I legitimately hope Grey gets back to you. This is the collab we need

Past it's prime? No sir, it's been aged well, and can probably stand for another 300 years.

If he would have had more time, he would have written a shorter letter.

She was well known to his men around the camp.

Thats because the Robin hood reference has been well researched multiple times (its not the one in the scotichronicon) and his topic was Tiffany, which hasn't been researched

And insists on reading roman numerals as letters.

@@karolkozik5918 Well, that IS how you read them

@@TokuNorth Well I know, but... Alright, you win. I just think reading it the "normal" way would at least lead some non-historical people towards trying to learn Roman numerals. Of course they're as useful in modern times as Latin itself, sed sicut Brianum Davidus Gilbertus dixit, "Scientia potentia est". - written on X.IX.MMXXI

Indeed

and this is making me want to do it myself

"Everything is a universe unto itself"

@@Skemmm make a video about it

Who?

ok

Presumably the Irish history section is just a pile of self-congratulatory texts by an assortment of Englishmen.

@@jospinner1183 It's a baked potato stall

Truth

@@jospinner1183 It would be, but the books went to war and all but the most important texts got burned in the ensuing scuffle

Certainly! One could go so far as to say that highlighting these difficulties is even more important than ever before in *gestures broadly* _these_ current times! Showing how doing proper research might take a lot of time, and not lead anywhere

But the lesson here is not to obsess over the source until you check that the content of the material is of any factual accuracy to begin with

Grey is relatively lucky here.
For a researcher, you'll often be frustrated by sloppy scholarship that allows inaccuracies to be written down as truth.
It's rare that you'll actually find the direct source of the misinformation *and* get the schadenfreude of watching him get brutally dunked on by one of the greatest satirists in the English language.

Yeah, this is one of the best videos that I have seen that depict misinformation.

check the sources of your source's sources

"This scholar and writer of pamphlets for the education of the public was driven to madness."

alexander pope sounds like a hilarious guy

“His misinformation and inclusions of useless misquoted works cost true researchers of valuable time”

he would've written an open letter *praising hearne for "inducing in others so much scholarly effort and doubly admirable for doing with so lightly of his own"

I think Grey might have been possessed by Pope's spirit for a bit.

Yeeah, that made me laugh out loud xD

Pope despising hearne was not unwarranted

@chula chalupa it wasn’t pointless

@chula chalupa Wasn't pointless. It proved that Hearne was a shithead that couldn't do his job right.

@chula chalupa yeah no hearne definitely deserved that from making grey go insane from this poem

Alex Pope wins again...

Right!!?? Makes me really interested in theory of information and communication. We see it in things like childhood games of "telephone," in common misconceptions, etc, but we give too much credit that things will get shaken out and that sources speak from a place of professional practice or well studied confidence, when in reality misinformation is so easy to spread... Suuuper interesting.

So do we know anything about history? Should I question the truth of anything that happened before I was born?

@@greywolf7577 "Know" is probably too strong a word for it. We are "relatively confident" that Hannibal crossed the Alps and a couple of his elephants survived the journey. Okay, maybe we just suspect it, but we're relatively confident that the Punic Wars happened. Probably.

@@greywolf7577 Yes, isn't that obvious? You have the power to test anything you want within reason. If you have skepticism, then by all means, attempt to debunk whatever it is you're skeptical about.

I want a netflix series about this just so we can see some character acter gnashing his teeth into the scenery playing these historical people

Yup, me too.

"Is anyone here?" Yup, me too!

Same

Same!

“Anyway, snap out of it, carrying on.” broke me :D

I’m 99% sure your 100% right

I think your right and I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse

...Ah, a yo-mama joke...
Truely worthy of baseline of Tiffany.

That's hilarious, and I hope it's true

That's awesome.

The moral of the story is "Life is a journey not a destination, " and/or, "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Yes, basically this is a fable.

@@guest_informant Exactly.

Loved that too and don't forget the sweet sweet roast. >:D Have to look up Alexander Pope. I like his style and sass.

@@guest_informant ah, a John Lennon fan I see

Indeed, the thought that 50 years from now, Grey's video (and it's AI-written auto-transcript no doubt) will be one more stone in the path surrounding the bibliographies of these ancient people quoting each other.

😂

a thing we take for granted about internet information is that someone put it there out of the goodness of their heart/archival instincts.
Wikipedia is a large collaborative project. Even mentioning info is a huge deal. I was trying to find the source of an obscure quote I thought i heard from a sports commentator, and I only found one forum post from 2004ish on it, from a now defunct forum about TV.
Sidenote: i don't like that forums have gone away. it's useful to have conversations between random strangers preserved and web-crawlable, and it's not as easy to do with external tools with twitter or facebook.

You sir are depressing

And then you remember about the Library of Alexandria

@Marci Schneider You must be trolling. .__.

Because it kinda is

Yes!

Here's a research hole for you - look to see if the late neolithic tribes in western France migrated to central Algeria (a wetland at the time) and later were the source of the Atlantis myth after a mud volcano to the south erupted. That's enough to start on, oh, here's a clue to get you going - look to see where the Clovis point stone spearhead migrated to around that time. Obviously you'll need to read the Plato mythology on it too, the Pillars of Hercules were considered to be between Sicily and Africa at the time the original myth was written, not Gibraltar. There's also gentic data on Europedia that can help, it's the later (post 30,000bce) mtDNA X that you'll need to follow. If you assume that the population in Africa got mostly wiped out in roughly 9850bce (aside from a few Berbers that have mtDNA X) you can see that the survivors migrated to the Levant and Greece. Old Sparta was certainly one of those colonies. And Gobekli Tepi as well.
Only do this is you enjoy the torture though, it's a very deep hole. Just ignore anything written after the Greek about it though.

"DON'T GO LOOKING."

How many cows did that guy own? I don't know! It's just numbers you prick! Write them like a normal person!

A. Pope is amazing

@@StarDude1 yes he is

Well, based on what we've been shown he clearly deserves it.

Also I'm never ordering copper from Ea-Nasir. His customer service was dreadful.

Hearne is rolling in his grave that people still haven’t let it go lmao

Damn.

Was he the world's foremost expert on anteaters, by any chance?

@@TheWickedWizardOfOz1 Ahhh, I see you're also a person of culture

There's truly no worse feeling than wasting an afternoon looking thru a pile of dusty old books just to not find what you were looking for. Or even worse to find out that the thesis for your paper is wrong and you have start all over.

That .2 million is me. I've come back here a lot...

Holy mother forkin' shirtballs- this is the main video

Tbh when I browsed the channel, this video is way more interesting than author's stories about his GF.
[that's the feeling about videos' content I got; note: English isn't my main languange]

3.2 m already

@@ChaoticEnigma92 The Tifanny video is now showing at 2.3 million. WTF??

You mean google?

*giggle

*gaggle

*wiggle

ETYMOLOGY-MAN, HEEEEEEEELP!!!!

I love limericks, thank you

Thank you, Senpai.

Wow he must be in love with this Tiffany girl

Fricking Limericks are awesome

Now time to re-edit it via bad editing and call it out via shade.

Yeah...😔

And then they keep scooting back.

So Grey is the only one capable of entering and exiting the backrooms at will?
Pretty selfish of him to be leaving the tens of thousands of people stuck on the various floors of a very inhospitable and dangerous place I must say

Terrifying yet totally on brand

What do you mean terrifying? I'd be 100% down for that! I'll either get shanked, or get told a story, a win-win situation!

Scothrinomicon

Scotcrhiconormicron

Scrotumommicon

???

Understated comment

That is genuinely something that I would love to have.

And then another person 300 years later can go through a mountain of research and use his book. This is a great idea

A book like that would be invaluable for teaching people how to research.

THIS. THIS IS THE BEST THING IVE EVER SEEN

Hexagoneth art thy best-agoneth

Did you do it? Did you do it? Did you do it, huh? Did you crunch the numbers?

What hole did you fall down?

Or days of searching 1400 pages of microfilm on each of a hundred rolls microfilm to find that one land record sentence that proves when your ancestors came to Canada. ❤️ It

@@kjw79 This is the sort of stuff I love to see!

There were a few photos of great great grandfathers headstone, brown and covered in lichen on the ground. Online cemetery websites shared the same few photos that cropped off the last line.
There is seemingly no paper records in all the land regarding his origin place in Scotland.
But behold, one distant cousin found on Ancestry took a snap in the 80s and scanned it to me 40 years later. The last missing line?
“Native of Kirkcudbrightshire”
Makes me feel like Indiana Jones

When tracing back the roots of knowledge, inevitably we will either reach bedrock or find the root end snapped, its origin separated by a long forgotten incident or oversight creating a gap in the vast time abyss.

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It's been the antithesis of my past 6 months, which has been "Ardent Humanities stan slowly discovers STEM, descending into madness."

I fell asleep twice while watching this. But i did rewatch it after waking up more. Was hard but wanted to watch the whole thing to be supportive in my own way

As someone who studied Math and GRSJ (Gender, Race, Sexuality, and Social Justice) in university and is now studying Law, this comment is deeply accurate and insightful.
I feel Grey’s pain in my soul.

A return to the question of truth.

Yee

Agree

I feel the same

Agree

OUR

HE DID! Just after he hinted at it! So he fell down a rabbit hole while down a rabbit hole.

But that's a story for another time.

@@Superhrnet so while down in a hole he found a cave, poor guy

I would love to hear his historically accurate take on Robin Hood, with all the romance and mythology stripped away.

I'd say throw the man a rope, but we'd probably end up with a video on the history of rope making.

If they do this level of research, they ARE the expert. Grey is the world’s foremost expert in Tiffanys, there is no doubt in my mind

How could anyone leave such a fantastic story. I had to watch it a second times right after finishing just to make sure I captured all the fun.

Me as well.

Online work really did a number on us, huh?

Love it when I read the comment section and someone refers to a section of the video at the same time that part is playing

@Drizzle I did the exact same thing :D

I'm not sure if that would be a blessing or a curse for him. :p

The only problem with immortality is that the human mind really isn't equipped to comprehend its implications. Even our sun has a finite lifespan, and we can't live without it. What happens when the sun goes red giant, possibly incinerating the earth (and definitely making it uninhabitable) in the process? I'm not sure he would want to make that a video topic, though; it sounds like he might find it depressing... but then, after making this video, maybe that wouldn't be an issue for him, given the line that has been quoted above.

@Alex Munz with an exit option.

For what purpose?
He does nothing important.

@@jacksonstarky8288 Well, even if we become Immortal, that doesn't mean we can't die. Let's say you become ageless and immune to disease. Let's also say you leave the house everyday for you're job, or on a walk. Eventually, probably within a thousand years you're going to trip and break you're neck. Or die in a car crash, or hell struck by lightning. When you're Immortal, the small percentage chance of dying by any of those things steadily increase until it eventually happens

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That's awesome! What's your PHD in?

That's sweet man

@@loganfaucher mine’s in autonomous vehicles and game theory. Hers is in clinical research and patient reported outcomes.

@@IsamBitar that's do cool

Yes

The pains of making a video about a topic that some people or even noone has made before.

I love your channel btw, your vids with merk are great

Fall down? CCP Grey swan dives into rabbit holes.

@@RIPToot Why?

I still don't think I do but Mike Duncan does a great explanation of his process somewhere in his Revolutions podcast. I don't think I have ever seen someone else explain it.

we historians do have rules and methods, until we hit the decisive madness that is humanity. after that fact we write down is whatever that makes sense chronologically in a cause and effect relationship.

@@TheNord06 That sentence is very difficult to read.

@@Hallowed_Ground Well he's a historian, not an author, cut him some slack.

Also not native speaker, sorry guys.

It's not for nothing. It teaches a sense of the fragility of information. You can't read a description of the problems a fact check runs into and understand it in the level you can after this video

Still, though. It was for nothing

It‘s not for nothing. It teaches about research and how important it is to be accurate for a singly, small mistake might go down in history for hundreds of years.

Still, though, It was for nothing

Yes!! I teach a research class and will be using this video to show the frustrations that come from tracking sources.

Cut the studious out of the second line and it's perfect
Except for the last line don't know what to do with that

Bars

Spitting bars

@@magnumsmth For centuries he still makes us gurn

269 likes.

This is another time for that old Ralpha Waldo Emerson quote:
"I cannot remember the books I've read any more than the meals I have eaten; even so, they have made me."
Whether or not we learned anything of importance, just how Grey went about finding that knowledge is very insightful about how our history is kept (and often how badly). This and the Staten island video have made me really think differently about written history and recorder knowledge in general.

I learned a lot. Trying can be video even if you fail and that could be successful.

Amen

Didn’t expect to see you here, great job on the 30th anniversary comic!

I learned that Alexander Pope came up with the phrase, damning with faint praise, so that's something.

Dear Sam I could not agree more. People like that are who inspire us to work towards the success and be rich enough to become patrons ourselves

if you are watching, you are contributing

There are a few channels this being one of them who I definitely plan on donating to when I am done school. It's amazing how much some RUclipsrs do for students now.

Same

its no better as a museum assistant these tangents are soo easy to make

Revenge of the Grey

It's interesting how these ancient historians were probably exactly like Grey - hopelessly curious random ppl, and that's the same way he'll be seen. That's why I like your use of "21st century historian"

I was having this exact thought while watching... he is now a member of this long line of historians and archivists producing works that show the path back to other older works

I hope that RUclips or some of its successors has ported forward these videos by then. Because by their mere existence it will be inferred to some future historian chasing down the same rabbit hole. And in that distant day in the future somebody will write a textbook saying how cgp grey is the most awesome historian of industrial / post-industrial America. And some poor school kid will have to sit around watching video after video of Grey's research that we presently do for fun.

I hope to remember grey as we remember Thomas Hearne, as a semi-crazy dude who loved random papers and just put stuff in cause why not

I knew a guy like that.
He was a government employee, and a horrible worker who screwed EVERYTHING up, especially when he was loaded, which was most of the time.
It was almost impossible to fire him at the time, so they kept getting promoted, to jobs were he did less and less, and ultimately was responsible for nothing.
The premise was, "if we can make him useless, it will be a huge improvement."

Reminds me of Arthur Dent.

@@bcubed72 Oh man, I want that job. Getting paid very well to do nothing is a dream. Getting promoted due to incompitance also a dream. Though, this makes sense assuming it is the US government. Our tax dollars at work. >.>;

Hearne was far from alone, and his practices and attitude persisted until at least the early 1900s. I have made a minor study of armour (the kind you wear) and quite a few of the most popular Victorian-era sources are, shall we say, hilariously wrong. I suspect that at least part of this is because, these days, we have much readier access to information than at any previous time in history. I am speaking of the free availability of public museums and libraries-of-record, not the Internet, although that too is a combined boon and curse. Many of the worst Victorian sources are tertiary sources (at best), which should underline for you Grey's insistence on primary sources in his research.

Really gives me hope, as I glance around at all the sh1t laying around my place

If there's any research that needs funding, this is clearly it.

@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 what would humanity do if not find the true origin of Tiffany?

Yes, agree

It’s very yar.

Tiff is the type of girl to dye her hair.

you ruined this poor mans life. you monster! get out a’here!

Have you by any chance read Terry Pratchett's delightful series of books about Tiffany Aching, witch-in-training? They're worth a read for the humour alone, but as a historian, you'd get a lot more out of the references and allusions that Pratchett, amateur historian and folklorist that he was, packed all his works with.

Grey wasn't completely alone... Tiffany was with him. She even sang about it.
"I think we're alone now..."

@Joel JinisKalpadikkal Rhakjellg is obviously joking, no worries 😉

"Look at this scholar sent on a goose chase because SOMEONE couldn't fact check their work." Alexander Pope.

When he dissed dude right after he died, I suddenly had more respect for Drill music. Post mortem disrespect has been around a while.

I like the idea that pope just starts watching this whenever hearnes about

If nothing else, this video saves anyone else who ever finds Thomas Hearne as a source a lot of time.

@@chrishale5213What Alexander Pope did was the 18th century equivalent of putting coin sound effects over the names of every op who died.

I love the bestagons video.

Hexagons are the bestagons is a great video

I also love those 2, the bestagons are a religion now 😂, but Capt. Billop also deserves a place, it seemed Grey was going to use a oujia board to get an interview with Disoaway

Airport codes squad, where art thou?

hexagons are the bestagons

Or something from D&D

It looks like it too

Or some eldrich Scotsman... im imagining Cthulhu in a kilt

This is an excellent idea

"Did you speak the exact words?"
"Look, maybe I didn't say every single little tiny syllable, no. But basically I said them, yeah." 😂

Hah lorl

You're right, but I wish mine were as varied and broad as Grey's! As it turns out, there exist only so many articles, books, and papers on the history of Taekwondo...

@@kinseylise8595 there is always a rabbit hole to go deeper in. the question is how deep is deep enough. Like you could dive in to the production of the sports equipment and who make them and why in that (exact) way.
just keep digging until you don't even know that the start was Taekwondo.

Not everyone, just people worth talking with.

How deep is your rabbit hole?

To be fair, I've come across _so_ many people sealioning me that I might consider this fate sufficiently schadenfreudig.

@@fds7476 Schadenfreude?

@@saikgamingproductions
Ja.

@@fds7476 Sealioning?

@@thebiggestcauldron
Basically when your conversation partner spams you with demands to provide evidence for every little thing you state, and then demands evidence for _that_ evidence, in bad faith - not because he wants to get to the truth of a matter, but purely to annoy and then discredit you.

the drama is real, hearne reached through the ages to specifically troll Grey

Exactly! I have just discovered this channel, well not 'just' but about some 10 days ago, and felt as if I watched a thriller movie. Again revisiting this video!

Thank you for your work.

And I also love to research.

Agree with you on all points, brava! I love his content, am willing to wait for it, which he talked a bit about at the end. He is really grateful for his fanbase and patrons, wish I could give.

Gotta say, one of the the funniest comments I’ve ever read. Love your channel

Please do more Marciano breakdowns I beg you

Basically a written chopping right 0_o

😭😭😭😂😂😂

This comment is absolutely legendary

“But the plans were on display…”
“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the display department.”
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

@@COLDCHEMICALpresents this is exactly the passage I thought of when he said the lights were out!!

I thought that was usual English humor about Schotland.

That book 1000% has a demon bound to it. I don't make the rules.

I'm still at the 4th book, but I miss those early humour

Kinda brings the idea of fantasy book libraries to life. I imagine Grey as an aging mage looking desperately for an obscure tomb that was though to be lost...I am realizing as I am writing this that I just described Gandalf. Grey is Gandalf.

Do *NOT* use *torches* in a library full of ancient tomes!

@@MajinOthinus You can't stop me!
*Burns down the library of Alexandria by accident*

right? like, all of those old books, all of that information! *nerd time*

@@MrWhangdoodles Gandalf the Grey.
It all comes together.

I know. If I knew where to start, I’d like to go on my own maddening journey into the forest of all knowledge just to track down a footnote.

This. Exactly this.

Anyone can make a video. Not everyone can make a video about making a video.

It’s almost like the history version of zoomers going from playing Fallout 4 to playing Fallout 2. It really is fascinating

That is amazing. Do you have any suggestions of videos based around that. I'm fascinated now

@@anjetto1 seconded

@@artistwithouttalent thirded

and I'd say it's also very important. It's sort of a clean up mechanism for history, figure out what was actually true and not random bs is important if we want to truly understand the past.

Agreed. I loved listening to this.

This was my favourite video :D

This man just made me waste 20 minutes of my life on a story of how he went down way to many rabbit holes and I enjoyed every second of it!

@@softti4846 *too
And there is no such thing as way too many rabbit holes usually the more you dig the plentiful the bounty.

h o w

Alexander Pope is rolling in his grave right now!

sciencetes have foud that it is physically impussble to say it more that once the same way exept for those monks who wrote it

Skaw-ti-kraw-ni-kawn

The RUclips gods are cruel. I left a near-identical comment over a day before yours and it received no attention, while yours is the second comment I see when clicking on the video. And I'm sure there was another before me, with an equally ill-fated, but identical comment.

@@icwatto reading your comment was painful

@@icwatto impussble

As someone writing my masters dissertation, it's now making me self conscious about all my sources I've used without really questioning where they got things from

Man, just be careful though. You don't want to have the tendency of falling into every rabbit hole there is. It's fun as hell, but exhausting. Know when it's enough and don't lose yourself.
(Speaking from experience)

Never having been in a library without the Dewey Decimal system, I imagine myself looking for one book in that library and coming home with 27, and needing to find a castle wherein to hole up and read them all!

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1995 was when they digitised the library system and stopped stamping the due date in the back of the book.

@@oliversissonphone6143 Plus, many more people may have read the book without checking it out.

No he moved to London mainly just because he felt like living abroad no really that's it.

Fifty years from now:
"SO MY ONLY SOURCE... OF THIS ENTIRE TIFFANY A-N-Y THING... WAS THIS WEIRD VIDEO ON THIS ANTIQUATED WEBSITE"...

I gotta be honest. I don't know if anyone "had" to do any of this. But I'm glad he did

1kth like!

And there's more evidence about how unreliable a source Thomas Hearne was. That will definitely come up again.

Yep, in the next 200 years, there would've been about...3 people who would stuck on this poem if not for him.

If he were alive today he could be a rapper

I think that's called "cremation"

Announcer: Thomas Hearne is dead
Announcer: BUT WAIT HERE COMES CGP GREY FROM THE TOP ROPE

@@DuranmanX If Hearne was alive he'd run a drama channel with a cartoon avatar

Alexander Pope is my spirit animal. My life is surrounded by a plague of Hearnes.

no one cared for 300 years prior to this (thus no one fact and source checking this poem), so I doubt that with today's sped up generation, and especially ones that follow, anyone will care about little things like this in 100+ years.

@@csanadhorvath you're fun at parties aren't you

Unfortunately, they will only find this video after finding the truth themselves.

@@csanadhorvath Party pooper. -_-

@@csanadhorvath you underestimate the stupidity of the human race

You can also leave out the words "The fact that was actually able to track all this down" and it's also true, by now.

@@dmpmomof3
1) I'm not saying Seven's writing is wrong
2) I did mean "by now", that was not a goodbye. Or was that comma superfluous? I can't always tell in English.

@@vaclav_fejt Given that one of the books in question is the Scotichronicon, I can totally believe that.

To me, a lot of the fascination stems from being able to convey it all back to an audience cohesively.
I have no problem following rabbit trails all day; thanks, Wikipedia! Realizing I'm on a rabbit trail, orienting myself, document where I am, where I've been, and where I need to go are all incredibly difficult for me.

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Put something in publication with wrong details. You'll be remembered for centuries

It feels very… Honorable to guide people towards their best interests even if that means not funding more of your work.

Very true

Agreed!

Honestly smh

truly 😭

Personaly i have watched the video 10 times becouse it is super funn to listen to grey spiral into madnes

True

Best comment ever!!!
I busted out laughing 😂😂😂😂

*sheepishly raises hand* Guilty. I literally just did this earlier today. I cut myself off way later than I should have, time-wasted wise, yet still before I saw the final comment in the chain.

Perfect modern comparison.

like that argument under the paper mario sticker star soundtrack?

@@bryanp9878 which track

This video explaining the "side-trails" ended up being just as interesting as the original project. Awesome video. Your hard work is appreciated

...who were the scientists?!

@@hindenburg2006 it’s about phylocode. The main ones that I was referencing were Dr. Kevin de Quieroz and the late Dr. Norman Platnick.

@@HelloIAmJo thanks! I now have some nerding to do😊

I feel you :-)

If you want a computer science beef, specifically in the field of random number generators, there's a minor feud between Melissa O'Neill and Sebastiano Vigna where they argue *a bit* about whose random number generator is better, and it even ends up with arguments in GitHub repositories in the form of issues raised with the code, where one of them complains that the other's random number generator is being used in fairly popular open source libraries.

Those lost hours give us hope that our own "quests" can be fruitful.

That is called a rabbit hole

OK, now I'm at the point where he finally found a historian he could call and talk about this all over coffee with, only to realize he's been dead for over 125 years. Amazing.

it (Actually) summons kilted elder gods from beyond time and space. :)

@@jmlkinc Maybe Grey should try using the book to summon his zombie.

Are you an antiquarian?

/Hoarder

As a layman, I bloody love videos like this.

We are enjoying his suffering :D Though I'm sure he gets something out of unearthing this hidden information to the public.

And even less than that if we leave the Euroasian land mass

The feeling gets less scary the older you get. Just learn what you are easily able to, no one can know anything else.

The great leap forward.

Yes

In addition to losing pieces, its pretty fked how some ppl deliberately cut information out of books, or just don’t care about preserving knowledge. Like id be so pissed to be those yr 1300 monks after writing my version of the complete history of the universe for some dude in the 1700s to edit and cut how he saw fit.

🤭

He is a man of 'Deeper Penetration'

Absolutely. I also learned Alexander Pope was a murderer with words, and Thomas Hearne is rolling around in his grave as we speak.
Still the dedication Grey puts in is astounding

Returned to our knowledge for a brief moment before misquoted or lost into obscurity until at some point in the future another grey could dig it up again