Mpofu and Zuma are lying about MK Party - Mathabe
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024
- Former MK Party national organiser MacDonald Mathabe says Adv. Dali Mpofu's statement that he was part of the formation of the organisation is misleading. He tells Aldrin Sampear that even party president Jacob Zuma is not the founder of the party, but was canvassed to leave the ANC and join MKP. He says Ace Magashule played a role in convincing Zuma to switch sides.
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The day Zuma passes.... I see a lot of squabbles and fighting. It's only a matter of time.
true my sister ///
Remember before KZN form the government, Mk party were killing each other.after gorvment formed, they stopped
Squabble is a understatement, there would be war in the MKP. Zuma makes everyone feel important as long as they are useful to him, once he achieves his goal then flushes you. is the same thing he was doing when president. the level of senior members that comes and leave MKP is the same as reshuffles that he was doing day in day out as President and said it was Gupta not him. he knows how to play the game
hahaha Floyd will run like a headless chicken😂😂😂
Evil mind
I don't really understand how Julius Malema has survived all these opportunistic snakes around him?
Darkie can operate in silence shame, they always have to hang their dirty laundry in front of their enemies. Mxm
He not a snake that’s why . You were Tought to believe he is the bad guy.
Julius is the biggest snake in Africa
Vipers amongst cobras ....?
Malema he is born leader
Imagine all these people fighting for power to control the state while people suffer. No one is fighting for the people here. This should be our take away!
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You need bottle of Hennessy
🌚🌑 Mmusho wa leswiswi...
Not a single one of them is fighting for the people!
And to think that zuma is fighting for us we are fooling ourselves
This is the chubby guy malema was talking about on the eff pod😂
Exactly 😅😅😅😅
It's him 😂
Is the full episode of that podcast out yet? I'm only seeing the 10-minute clip on You Tube, but I want the full episode. I think Malema was doing some serious cooking there.
I am amazed how quick your thought process and a sharp eye😂😂
Kannete😂🤣😂🤣💯
Dali Mpofu's version is corroborated by the EFF that Dali started discussing with other Parties lobbying them to collapse their Parties and join Zuma's new Party, Julius never claimed to be in those meetings but he was briefed by Floyd and Dlamini...
Thank you Mgobhozi for stating the truth. This man Mathabe is wasting our precious time with his nonsense.
In my opinion there is no contradiction. He is talking about formation of the MK whereas the issue Julius was talking about was coming together of parties before the formation of the MK.
This dude says August n Dali it was weeks b4 elections😂😂😂😂😂
Correct, Dali was made to believe he is important. the madala is a skelem. dirty game player
Julias did say they approached him in September
Lol😂😂 Zuma made them all believe they are the secret founders
😂
Madala pulled some Kyser Soze on all of us 😂😂😂😂😂
This is kak funny
😂😂😂 Legendary
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Malema is a political prophecy mk and anc is one party I will support eff until the end
Now EFF knows where to stand
Amen.
He says Zuma didn’t want Dali Mpofu, he’s the one who convinced him…🤣🤣🤣
This is Khumalo number 2 we can't have to pay attention on this guy. We love MK, We love Zuma together with Mr Mpofu
Uziqambela nje amanga lona
@singelatv
Uyanyanyisa nje Kade ekuphi kuliwa noKhumalo. Uyisithunywa Nye uyahlanya.
@@Singelatv 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
𝙈𝙭𝙢 𝙡𝙤𝙢𝙥𝙝𝙪𝙥𝙝𝙚 𝙡𝙤!😂
It’s funny and absurd how MK supporters think Zuma is an angel and can’t lie. I believe Mathabe is honest because he is poised as has has been consistent so far, his story even corroborates with what Malema said. He was the “chubby” guy Malema referenced at the meeting which was attended by Carl, Vuyo, Floyd.
😂😂😂😂 that still makes me to laugh out loud
That is the perception you want to believe, and it is yours alone!
@@Mpho-j3fexactly, some people are really fools
Are you an angel???
This is cheap politics from this guy. I don't support MKP I listen more to Julius Malema and I respect Julius for being straight forward.
Julius? Just as rubbish as the rest.
😂😂😂😂 mxm no comment
Same what's group 😅😅😅😅😊
Mk is jst a cohort of old men who refused to be led by young ppl in EFF so they formed an old boyz club. today they are playing avengers trying to save the ANC which seems very futile
Really?
Unfounded claims 🤣🤣
Dream on
This is true. And to be honest, MK won't last without Zuma. It is full of people who don't like being led.
We don't care and it doesn't affect you as well
Non of these politicians are worthy any reasonable person's vote.
@nonmadziva1689 Truth they are the ones making SA UNSTABLe So long their Pockets are Full&their Families dont a Damn care about the Poorest of the Poor&the Citizens of SA they all fight for Power
Louder, please 🙏🏻 🔊🔊it's clear we as the citizens aren't angry enough to call the garbish for what is 🙆🏾💔😭😭
@@wentzelwilliams5568Its True Vrot Garbish Stink
I concur with you 100%
donmadvuva Truth they Power &Money Hungry and their familes live Good Lives they Dont a damn care about the Poorest of the Poor& The Citizens of the Country they make this Country UNBEARABLE its all anout THEM its Sickening
Julius named everyone and called him chubby guy,so now he's here to show face. Now we know you, Alpha and Omega.
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Reading the comments. I can only relate to the statement that "lies travel very fast, more than the truth..."
So Malema is right to stand his ground and label the defecters snakes bcoz they herein concede that their UMkhonto is infact ANC which is a rival to EFF
Eff is not rival to ANC.
Should that be the case then all of black people are in trouble as we need 2 million EFF members to be with 6 million ANC members and 2 million MK members so that together we may return our land back to Kings.
Weylima zeMK iphi lechess game naniyisho? ngizonibhula nonke nina
@@NdumisoZulu-di4dnBack to Kings? Are you an idiot? We know what the stupid kings did, they can't even give us a mere title deed for our very land and to think of the fact they game themselves both the kingship and the land!
This guy is gullible. He thinks Dali was telling him the truth that Zuma did not tell him anything.
It also means Dali was also gullible to think it was only him and Zuma who knew about the MK.
I'm telling you, this man is a moron. Why can't he talk about himself and leave others. And l don't like his style of I, I, l, he wants to act like he's a mastermind.
Zuma should have joined EFF if he really cared about the people as he claims but he decided to prioritize his interests over everything.
Why EFF to strengthen it,why do you think you've got power to decide for Zuma
Joining EFF was going to be against his ideology plus they use EFF to hide plenty of the politicians
True
That's how parents operate. Every child feels important and most loved. Divide and rule😊
Even Malema confirmed that Dali was part and Malema knew.
Thank you Mathebe. We needed the truth. You are an honest man. These MK scallywags are nothing to Malema
Udlala gomlilo kophela imali nawungazama ubuze imbalula nokhumalo khohlwa bafo
Do u know what inspired Malema's politics?
If they are nothing to him why does he has less members and people deflecting from him
What inspire Malema is to insult people
Even Malema said he knew about Mpofu and Zuma planning the birth of MK party
This man was quite all along when Khumalo was fighting with Zuma wazithulela. Ungenaphi yena lo ngalesisikhathi.
Yazi nje uphumaphi manje ungubani futhi nje . Yeyi thina sifuna kubuye izwe lethu asinandaba nombhedo wabooo vele sasingeke sibavotele singabazi mnxm
Unyanisile Nkosinathi, that Khumalo guy ebengathi uyaphambana apha uthetha i nonsense, kanti yena he also knows about this. Seemingly, he was avoiding to be expelled like Khumalo, and just shows ukuba spineless kwakhe for not standing up for the truth. But again, why is he opening up now. These people are just opportunists, umntu is just watching their back only here. Naye nje uZuma, seemingly he really played them kabuhlungu...
@@Philez_sRemember kaloku wonke umntu ofuna udumo funeka athethe kakubi ngo Msholozi, akasithusi lo, more especially kule captured media mnxm.
@@fikiletshabalala5189 say that again. He is finished but the media tries to make him relevant
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The Chubby guy his here to tell the truth
😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂indeed
😂😂 South Africans will kill you with laughter, chubby guy.🇿🇦🇿🇦
SEDODLA😅
This is the guy i believe more than anyone
Well spoken 💯
I agree
This man is clear
What is this is going to help us please black people useless things let move forward
Nansoke imainstream media isiqalile ukuzosixova isilethela omunye uKhumalo ezoqamba amanga kwi nation ,usekhokhelwe I establishment uMathabe. Asijiki Viva GMJ. Zuma Viva…!Gwaza Mkhonto Gwaza…! Viva MKP viva…!
Newzroom should have asked Zuma himself not this guy. Zuma simply outsmarted all
Macdonald Mathabe continue to be principle.
It does not matter who formed MKP as long as it serves the majority of South Africans, that's the most important thing
Unfortunately it doesn't look like it will
There was absolutely no need for this interview, this guy is barely known. Newzroom stop wasting the people's time 😏
All MKP members are barely known besides Zuma
I was thinking the same thing. Who cares.
@@mashobanemngomezulu8409do you know Floyd? Do you know magasela? Do you know mngxitama? Do you know Mpofu? Do you know nxamalala? Do you know Nhlamulo?
So what you are saying is that only people who are known are allowed to be interviewed on television. Your view of people is dismissive and shallow. So you value popularity more common sense and humanity. Start self introspect and divorce the idea of worshipping political celebrities
@@mashobanemngomezulu8409 What about Hlophe, Mpofu, Nathi, Mchunu, Mkhwebane, Des van Rooyen, and so on... Do you really believe what you say?
"Pro Bono" to a man of Zuma stature! And charge an ordinary person. All signs are there for everyone to see👀
Interesting. So, now these people are going to fight among themselves about this MKP?
What’s the importance of this debate? Are we deriving any value from it or it’s about this guy making himself important.
Why didn't you come forward when Jabulani Khumalo claimed to be him who started the MKP,why now
They didn't pay him... singing for supper
this guy is not even talking about Jabulani Khumalo
He was still eating.
Good question
He was hoping for a big slice of cake.
Mpofu said he was involved "covertly"
Dual membership is the most nonsensical nonsense I have ever heard 😅😅😅
This guy is lying. A seasoned politician Zuma was never gonna confide in this unknown. Obviously he did confide in Dali and probably did seek legal advise too
zuma was mobilizing support from all corners remember we all have our circles, everyone felt entrusted by Zuma
Bring part 2 please, we want to hear it all 🙄🙄🙄🙆
🤣🤣 yes
I agree with him. Its a calculated plan to swallow MKP
This guy is a plant if he says Zuma didn't want Dali Mpofu and sonkesiyazi Dali Mpofu and Zuma are very close
Exactly 😂😂😂
Mna,I,think ukungamfuni kwakhe asikuko loku yena akucingayo,if khange amfune, its for his legal representation, because it would mean that Dali cannot represent him anymore in his legal shenanigans, period,but lo wenza ngathi never wanted him as a,political member,uziveza ubumuncu
Uzokhuluma amanga 😂😂😂😂
So these people want to go back to the ANC😂 but they are killing it a bit by bit
There are members of the ANC in Durban who literally told me that they will vote ANC out because they don't agree with Matamela. They said the plan for MK is not to govern but to remove Cyril from power.
What is the purpose of this interview ?
Giving platform to people that speak ill of MK
That Mk is a stokvel
@@keystv1961 THEY ARE DOING EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO DECAMPAIGN MK WITH USELESS GUESTS. MK WILL WIN THIS COUNTRY BACK FROM THE WHITE ESTABLISHMENT WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.
Does whatever this guy is saying is building MK? People are trying to decide which party to join
To clarify issues.
So this guy came just to despute Dali's ascension of being part of forming MK ? And what has that done for him or to elevate him within the party ?😢😢
At this point non of these stories matter, SAs voted for MKP because of Zuma. Heal and move on guys.
No KZN
Wow Glitch...that is profound bafo...it really doesnt matter how it came about. what is important is that MKP is here, growing and becoming stronger everyday. The GOAL is GENUINE FREEDOM.
they all claim to be founders of MK yet people voted for MK because of Zuma and nothing else
The voting fodder voted for him yes. Not the intelligent electorate.
Yes, because Zuma wants to save the same ANC you didn’t vote for. Sometimes, listen to understand, not just to comment. It shows that you don’t know what you voted for. If Zuma dies, what then? You’ll all be fighting each other for positions. All of you are clueless; you don’t see what Zuma is doing.
The media why not interviewing Zuma on this one than taking a random guy on the street no longer in MK 😂😂😂.
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He says he's still with MK ohh my word ho cld you talk about secrets of ur own party I don't buy it
Yaz ngempela 😂😂
Unamanga loo 😂😂😂😂akekho kwi MK
I see this MK party falling apart by greed, ego, selfishness, and infighting for positions.
This guy is lying and lying and lying even confusing himself with the lies in his head. Which party would they form without Zuma these people, mnxm
What so you mean as if you were there,crook enguZuma yeerr
Thats 21 minutes of my life Ill never get back😭
😂😂sorry
Dali Mpofu and Zuma have a personal relationship that does not require your attention.
Aldrin: Are you saying that former president Jacob Zuma is also lying?
Mathabe: His also lying and he knows that....!
Thanks for giving us "the chubby guy" otherwise this was a waste of my time 😂
😂😂😂😂
Zuma was the only person on the driving seat. Everyone else was made to think they were in a privileged position of being the only other person alongside Msholozi. That’s incredible strategy by Zuma.
They all have a lust to be next to him and please him - his muthi is strong 😂
😂😂😂😂my sentiment as well
That’s not strategy, that’s betrayal
@@YT-xk5jl who exactly was betrayed ? Considering Betrayal means "an act of deliberate disloyalty," like when your friend told other people all your secrets.
njeee...umshoshaphansi...real underground work bafo. it is the only thing JZ knows best!
Where does Njabulo Khumalo come in😢
Why is he saying malema lied.its the interviewer tht didn't put the question right by saying months and months.What this guy is saying and what malema said is 1 thing.bcz even malema himself said he didn't go to the meetings.
What a silent interview. Wasting air time. Dali Mpofu and Malema tell similar details.
We also support our Comrade Dali Mpofu
So Khumalo was not in the picture at all? This guy is saying everyone else is lying he is the only one with the truth🤣
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My observations exactly
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Mkp is not confused but the team Khumalo are all confused.
The foundation is wrong, this party will not last, it will all end up in tears..
lightweight politics...politics of wishing others to fail...nxxx not even other but wishing Blacks to fail. THis is exactly the reason we are not moving as Blacks critisizing others to fail.
True very bad founded
it will go back home,anc
New Jabulani Khumalo ayi ngeke ulunge mfana wami
All lies from this guy
Look, we're here now the MKP idea is perfect. This one said that this is lying forget about that. Jikijela Mkhonto jikijela. You also did a good job
Jiki jela
Newzroom always looking for something negative about MK. Noone knows this Mathabe. Where did they get him
So ma ungamazi wena kushukuthi aka exist bafo 😂
Mathabe his a former organizer chief, shut up if your clueless
You're delusional Mfana
@@producerproducer4356absolutely 😂😂😂
@@mashobanemngomezulu8409😂😂😂
This doesn't make sense😂😂😂
Zuma can backstab umuntu moerrrr😂😂😂😂😂...limenemene uBaba
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We thank you for you speaker for speaking the truth,we not other stooges will hate you
I also spoke to Zuma about founding the MK…
Why is everyone lying besides him? Something is not adding up
Anyone who comes to Newzroom to talk about MK and Zuma is suspect. Fortunately Zuma has no time for this nonsense
Ola chubby guy ola
Yha zuma have time toe his family party he dont have time for the people of south Afrika
@@DeirdreWilliams-wh1ib say someone who's surname is Williams, who are you again? Exactly, we don't care about what "williams" says about our leader.
@@DeirdreWilliams-wh1ib nonsense
@@DeirdreWilliams-wh1ib Sorry Deidre its seems this party is for a tribe they not for a modern democratic nation like South Africa
They like media so much, I don't see these guys dethroning ANC and DA coalition.
If Dali Mpofu can blatantly tell lies in front of the country [South Africa], what does he do when he is in court defending the people???
Lying is a huge component of lawyers' job, andcthats what wins them cases and enriches em
So you believe unknown this thing over Mpofu😂😂😂???
Hey lombuzo uwubuzayo I was asking my self the same question this morning so kwaze kwandzima kuse zoshuba kule mk
If Mpofu is lying, Malema is lying too because he confirmed Mpofu's involvement...
Kusazonuka amagundwane asazovela kancakancane imbungulu zisazovela kancakancane washu mlilo ANC yamagundwane
They won't collapse Umkhonto Wesizwe these bought up politician
This man is confused. He thinks he knows something but he knows the other thing that is not the thing he claims to know…
Ok, zuma is telling lies, mpofu is a liar, only this guy is truthing. Why should we believe him?
Lafa izwe nonke niphawula ngesilungu😮
Everyone is claiming to be involved in the formation of MK😂😂😅
How did this guy end up in politics? ,thers no political mind here
I salute MK and JZ for spotting out people who are chasing positions
Chubby man lying lying lying….uyadina
here is the chubby guy the CIC was referring too ...yesterday.
but what this guy doesn't know that Dali and Zuma had already discussed this before his thoughts and Zuma couldn't share with him because of the trust issues
It doesn't matter, what matters is Umkhonto wesizwe is Gwazzing😅
✊🏽💚💚
Where were you wena when JZ was faced with wars from ANC?
Hamba la usiyeke sijabulele uMsholozi, our leader 👌
He spoke so well about MKP and we will soon hear that he's appointed as the new spokesperson. Like father like son.
This gentleman is a big lier😅😅
Prove your point, dont say nothingness...
This guy is a nobody trying to tell everybody about somebody
I don't think so
I wish you could get all of them in one room Zuma, Mathabe, Magashule and Mpofu this thing of individuals being interviewed separately will alway remain as the song ‘Who is fooling who?’ Please bring them together.
Ans Khumalo😂
Eff is only organization of youth., cic must be trong as we love him❤❤❤
The guy claim, thy created the hype and mobilised people???
🤣My God, as people we don't even know the guy. We voted for MK because of president Zuma.
Why do you hate yourself?
@@collanawaseb8945what in her statement makes you say that? Everyone knows that Zuma is the only hype that got people behind MK. This is just another Jabulani Khumalo wanna be. Maybe he is canvassing to also get the Jabulani financing for his lifestyle.
@@collanawaseb8945 What do you mean?
I am also surprised that the guy created hype because I am seeing seeing the bugger for the first time in my life, When Zuma announced MK I was in without all these buggers who have so much to say.
See how Zuma played you all? Zuma's project is going to fail because of the dishonesty and no loyalty to each other.
God to guide Zuma for us, actually who are you DEAR MR Nxese
UVelaphi loMathibe thina sazi uMATHABA oMcanbi
Lomuntu uzoqamba amanga nje simzwile uMalema ekhuluma,uzobheda nje lomfokazi abamxoshe again uzodala iNYAKANYAKA
And what is the purpose of this 'he says, they say' gossip? Besides, of course, the relentless efforts by the media to try unsettling the MKP? 🤔😊
Who is this guy?
your still behind if you dont know this guy because nina nifuna abantu aba popular this guys is so intelligence google his background simple
@@dumsanivilakazi3938who is this guy that's the question?
Mathabe
The chubby guy😂😂😂
Osomathuba yerr bakithi. Umfowabo kajabulane yinii le
Mhlampe omunye owaxoshwa kwi MK
Uyahlanyal uyafana noKhumalo
Please call Jabulani Khumalo, this guy. Ace and Dali, so we can find the truth of the truth. This MKP spaza shop is poisonous
They can't be in the same room they kill each other
@@sandilemntungwa1538 true
Zuma is making everyone believe they are the main chick . Kanti they all sides. The main is Duduzane. Imagine the stories that are going to come out when he dies. Everyone will be claiming that Zuma said I should be the president 😂😂. iMovie
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I’m finished 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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People yooh don't trust him it's now no more khumalo😮
Another Khumalo this one
This shows how corrupt Zuma & Co. are.
MATHABE is lying
Wena uyazin
Lying about what? Tell us!
Ayi Ayi Amanga
This fellow was just a bouncer 😂
They will only fool those who are not learned!!!
Uzoziveza kwi media cz awaziwa ndawo