Nobody has Matched Young Ronaldo Phenomenon's Magic 👑
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Rptimao vc pode fazer o vídeo do 7x1 de Brasil x Alemanha prf 🥺❤
Where find more of the matches
Nao posso mais fazer nada da FIFA, infelizmente mano :(
@@RptimaoTV isso vai durar pra sempre??
P@@Vitor_gamer64
Dribbling, power, speed, right foot, left foot... favourite player ever...
And best player ever
@@errezmardi506Ronaldo better
@NCSheriff7 he Is Ronaldo
@@errezmardi506 the real Ronaldo
@@NCSheriff7 the real Ronaldo is R9
Lucky me to have witnessed the greatness of Ronaldo.
Quando lesado veio se tratar no Corinthians , acabou jogando no Corinthians não estava em boa forma , mas jogou muito , entra no you tube e vê os Lindos Gols que fez jogando no Corinthians!
speed, technique, finishing, entertainment... he got it all. GOAT!
... Vision, intelligence etc. Ronaldo was above the rest. That's why he could win the world cup with his poor physical condition! Remember he just recovered from a longtime injury.
bro missed so many big chances.
haircut
Agree with most of them except finishing
good yes, goat no. Ronaldhino has goat title
Almost brings me to tears how good he is
Ronaldo is a legend of modern football. I was lucky to see him and his name is written in letters of gold.
What a player. Absolute legend.
goat.
the best ever!
think in his prime... he is (was) the best player ever to grace the pitch... Even more the prime Messi, Pele, CR7, Ibra, Rooney etc...
@@CodyDylanFerrell he didn't really have a prime but yes you're right
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Reminder: Calcio was the best championship on the planet, it looks like mini World Cup tournament at that era. However, Ronaldo was extremely exceptional in very hard league (Calcio) that contains the best defenders and a lot of iconic legendary players ever.
Calcio at that time had top stars in every team, many of them played in 1998 world cup. All the stars were present in that WC
o alto do nível do alto nível... e uma lenda do nosso pais continental brasil!
Massimo rispetto ed ammirazione per tutti i grandi fuoriclasse che hanno fatto la storia di questo sport, ma ammirati dal campo Lui è quello che mi ha lasciato senza fiato e senza parole. Chi non lo ha mai visto giocare dal vivo non può comprendere che razza di onnipotenza sprigionava ogni volta che aveva la palla nei piedi. Ricordo che in tribuna ci guardavamo increduli e ci chiedevamo come fosse possibile fare le cose che faceva alla velocità che le faceva e con il pallone praticamente sempre incollato ai piedi. Fenomeno, mai soprannome è stato più appropriato nello sport. Mai visto nulla di simile e penso sarà improbabile vederne in futuro.
R9 is arguably the most complete striker of all time. He was a freak, his strength, speed, athleticism, natural dribbling ability and his ability to score was vastly underrated.
The knee injuries ruined his career, but even past his best he still stood head and shoulders above rest. That performance for Madrid at Old Trafford in the CL was insane. My uncle god bless his soul said he was the best he ever saw play at Old Trafford. The Old Trafford faithful applauded his goals and performance.
Only Zidane comes close imo.
His knee didn't keep up with his skills and speed. Like He over used it, so he broke it.
He was not good heading the ball.
Nothing about him was VASTLY underrated, he was the hottest striker for years.
Underrated? In those years he was the strongest striker in the world, an undisputed alien, not for nothing they called him the Phenomenon. His name was on everyone's lips.
Underrated?? He broke the world transfer fee twice in two seasons and won the ballon d’or all by the age of 21. How much higher rated can you get 😂😂
Simplemente el FENÓMENO un espectáculo hacen falta este tipo de jugadores
Ronaldo Incomparável ⚽
EL MEJOR NUEVE DE TODA LA HISTORIA DEL FUTBOL MUNDIAL!!
Speed , Dribbling , left foot , right foot , power , technique , shooting , finishing , header , physical what a player🎉
Objetividade também!
@@xs9273 definitely agree 💯 R9 forever 💝
A train
Es de esos jugadores que sin importar tu nacionalidad te hacen pensar "Que hermoso es el fútbol"
Io l'ho visto giocare dal vivo sia con la maglia dell'Inter, sia con la maglia del Milan in fase declinante e con la pancia. E posso dire che mi ha impressionato quasi di più nella seconda versione, i movimenti erano rallentati, non correva più, ma questo ti permetteva di cogliere con l'occhio lo straordinario controllo di palla che aveva. Magia pura.
Вы из Милана?
Da Milanista confermo, era una pura magia vederlo giocare, anche al 40 per cento delle sue capacità, davvero di un altro Pianeta😊
Solo dalle immagini capisci che quando indossava la numero 10, aveva più potenza
Si puede tener razón porq tofo lo ganó solo ganbetas muy lejos del peluza I del Gran dhiño
Cambio de ritmo, remate lejano y cercano, velocidad, gambeta, regate con ambos pies, hasta visión de juego se le veía a ronaldo, un jugador completísimo, mis respetos para quieren pudieron ver a este show y mago del balón en vivo
Nunca vai ter maior que ele.
Speed stealth and skill all in one. If only he never got injured he would have been the greatest player ever
Maradona and Ronaldo were the most fun to watch
Insieme a Ronaldinho.
Even his misses ... are extraordinary. Glad vid showed those too!
Exactly, his dribble is so enjoyable to watch even if it doesn't lead to any goal. Just pure art.
Melhor jogador que vi jogar. Sou cruzeireinse e era adolescente no tempo em que ele foi revelado pelo cruzeiro. Acompanhei de perto aquele periodo. O futebol com o Ronaldo em campo era entretenimento pesado.
Agility. Pace. Stability. Mentality. Absolutely the best ronaldo ever live. Really missed him n brazil in this era..
Had the pleasure of watching him at old Trafford for Real Madrid. As a United fan 🙏🏻 He still is my greatest ever player ive watched . R9 👍🏼
Ferdinand said.that the 2 Best players that he face was Ronaldo and Messi.
@@mem5860кто есть фердинанд? против величия месси и феномена
@@mem5860Rio talks alot of bolox
Respect !
Único e incomparável!
O que Ronaldo fez nos seus primeiros 5 anos como profissional NINGUÉM mais fará!
Gênio! O mais novo bola de ouro da história!!!! The Best Best
Que Calidad tan natural tenia Ronaldo... El mejor!
En mi opinion, simplemente el mejor jugador que he visto en mi vida!
Digo lo mismo, hasta la fecha ni uno se le ha acercado ese jugador era el prototipo de la perfección de jugador.
Cr7😂
Yo tambien creo asi
@Sosa93100Ronaldo fue mejor que Cristiano, sin ninguna duda
Ronaldo no es de este planeta. Es un jugador que nunca más tendremos. La magia como julgava era excepcional.
Que vídeo sensacional, RPTimao!!!
As imagens com transmissão e narração original são sempre as melhores, muito melhores que aqueles vídeos com música eletrônica de fundo.
Notice all the kick-checks and shoulder-checks that all considered fouls in today's game but not back then. Imagine him playing today with the freedom forward players have today.
He played in Serie A, which was called the league you get kicked constantly. The constant kicking was so common some players avoided that league in those days.
Unreal. I’ve never seen anyone take down defenses like that. Lucky to have seen it all go down live.
Same
Messi
@@leo-messi61coitado do.messy
@@leo-messi61jjjjjjjjjj😂😂😂😂 Messi ni a los tobillos al prime de R9 esa magia no la ha tenido nadie aún
Watch young Messi regularly and you will find Nazario isn't even close
Just nostalgia merchants@@jairoarteaga5950
Dribble = messi
Skill= ronaldinho
Shooting= cr7
Injury= neymar
All= R9
injury .. lol..😂😂
😂😂😂@@thebengalurubong2047
dribble pessi? 2-8 kid 🤣
I never saw Messi dribbling beyond basics....ball control you mean....Dribbling is Neymar or Ronaldinho, but they don't even are on same tier of Ronaldo cause he do the same moves but faster.
Perfection=Maradona
Se todas as obras do Fenômeno terminassem em gol ninguém mais no universo o superaria. The better, ever.
Verdade. A 1ª jogada já foi monstruosa e eu nunca tinha visto provavelmente pq não terminou em gol
Da gosto de ver Ronaldo jogar, precisamos de muitos jogadores assim.......
es el último de los jugadorazos que exponía al máximo el jogo bonito, como dicen los brasileños, ya no hay como el, se acabaron, el único y auténtico Ronaldo el fenómeno
His movement is just so unbelievable it’s so fluid like water combined with speed and dribble
Notice many of these clips Ronaldo broke the cage
“gabbia” that José Mourinho was talking about .
The same cage got put on messi and he couldn’t escape vs inter
Ronaldo Brazil was able to get rid of 3 players at once
I can’t believe there’s some gen z and x out there arguing about messi and cristiano being better than this guy
Absurd
You must have not watched Messi break about 50 ''cages'' in his career then lol
@@3PointOne4Music New gen is all about stats. I agree Messi is better in general but comparing primes? Well, this guy has a nickname, "Phenomenon", says something. He played ONLY ONE year in Barcelona. I don't think someone ever made an impact that strong in one year.
I think if we compare calendar years, Ronaldo's 2008 comes first (for several reasons I cannot say here, would be too long)
second one would be Ronaldo's Barcelona year
Third one would be Messi's 91 goal season.
O'Fenomeno , no hay otro., bajaba a traer el balón y esos arranques con potencia y velocidad.Incomparable.
Sin duda ese apodo de "EL FENÓMENO" no era en vano, que excelente jugador. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
O VERDADEIRO RONALDO!
Just for reference: R9 played in Serie A when it was heads and shoulders THE only meaningful league on the planet. Each and every defender that played either with him or against him have no doubts when asked who was the strongest player they have ever faced. This includes people with 20+ years careers like Paolo Maldini. When he was asked the question he was like “are you joking?”
R9 was a horse who pulled all Defenders who tried to stop him with his strenght/speed...
Smiling while playing...that's live for the sport. R9 & Dinho. Total football...
Ugh no what Paulo Maldini actually said was that 2 of the toughest players he has faced was him and Maradona.
今見ても凄すぎて、トップスピードでこんなドリブル止められる訳ない、細かいダブルタッチとか、ボールを置く位置が完璧
What is happening 😂 this man could play, I've never seen anything better. Underrated, and it's stated he's one of the best. He is the best I've seen
Ronaldo 93-98 was the GOAT. Not even Pelé comes closer.
underrated ??? by who??? Anybody that calls the game Football knows this is 1 of the four GOATs
Underrated?, He is undisbuted and the source of that every attacker must watch.
@@Gdatshimyes. LM10,CR7, ZIZOU, R9
You must be little kid
Nem Messi e nem Cristiano,o melhor foi o fenômeno
Messi foi Melhor, mira 19 anos Ronaldo vs 19 años Messi, sao muitos parecidos na agresividade
Messi el mejor
R10 > R9
@@jonlima9897nem em sonho.... R10 só jogou bem em uma final na vida dele.... Ronaldo jogou na maioria....e sendo protagonista
@@sneocatenaccio746 R10 era mais habilidoso
Él y Ronaldinho son lo mejor que mis ojos han visto
messi es mejor que ambos
@@mem5860Messi no hizo nada fuera del Barcelona, porque ahí estuvo rodeado de jugadores como Iniesta y Xaxi. En el PSG no hizo absolutamente nada!
@@CaptainMarvel007 ronaldo nunca gano una champions asi que supongo que ronaldo es malo tambien.jaja pareces que no ves futbol. estas comparando a un messi que perdio velocidad y aun asi jugo bien. el era el dueño del mediocampo.
ese argumento de xavi y iniesta es tan malo, y facil de acabr. messi gano el mundial y copa america son xavi e iniesta, y sin jugadores espectaculares. alli tienes tu prueba de que messi no necesita a xavi e iniesta. balon de oro en 2019, cargo al equipo el mediocampista y goleador
@ Ronaldo ganó más copas del mundo y copa América que Messi. La copa del mundo que ganó Messi se la regaló la FIFA al regarle un sin fin de paneles a favor. Así cualquiera gana, así que de corrupción sabes muy poco!
@@CaptainMarvel007 pero messi le gano en champions. ronaldo tiene un mundial. nadie le regalo el mundial a messi, todos eran penales, ahora quieres cambiar las reglas del futbol?? si le quieren ayudar porque le anularon un gol legal a argentina contra arabia? le anularon un gol para ayudarlos? jaja ves que eso que dices no tiene sentido
Sin duda..... el mejor 9 de la historia.... sin duda.
The best striker 👎
The best player 👍
Junto a Hugo Sánchez
Y eso que no cabeceaba nada... Pero nada.
@@h.m.7218 imagínate si hubiese tenido un cabezo tipo Iván Zamorano...
@@leonardodeportes601 el mejor fue Marco Van Basten
Acho que este garoto tem futuro!!! KKKKK... Que saudades de nossos fora de série!!!
He never falls down when somebody tries to steal his ball and search for contact,he fought for every single ball.U don't see that today...he was a great player.
Monster number 9...real goat
Da juventino, il più forte giocatore della storia. Un onore averlo avuto in serie A. Il suo infortunio è stato un trauma per tutti.
Era un monstruo!!! Q jugador!!
El FENOMENO a su máxima expresión, no he vuelto a ver algun jugador de esas cualidades, único e incomparable, y que manera de aguantar faltas aún en el medio italiano donde se juega uno de los fútbol mas rudos y fuertes en la marca, por allá estuvo uno que brindo espectaculo y goles como el CR7
Impresionante el mejor la historia Ronaldo Nazario impresionante, mí infancia en los 90 el fenómeno
He had pace, strength, techniques.... Great of all time... No one can match him...."O Phenomenon"
O Lendário R9 Fenômeno o Rei do Futebol
O "Fenômeno", driblava até o câmera-man, jogava muito, até no final da carreira, acima do peso'!!
Não acredito que se passaram 27 anos desses jogos. Parece que foi ontem que eu era uma criança assistindo a esses belos jogos do fenômeno. Bons tempos
Indeed, my friend. It felt like yesterday I watched R9 swept the floor in the world cup
Parabéns pelo excelente vídeo no canal. Ronaldo foi o melhor jogador que ja existiu
Meus olhos brilham! Meu maior ídolo no futebol! O maior de todos ❤
Dichosos los qué tuvieron el privilegio de verlo jugar en vivo,el crack ronaldo.
Solo imaginen en la cancha y en el mismo equipo: Ronaldo, Ronaldinho y Rivaldo... Brasil los tuvo y quedaron campeones mundiales ja ja que pedazo de jugador el verdadero Ronaldo!!!!
El verdadero es Cristiano Ronaldo.
@@Cr7_editxz777kkkkkkk é muita erva.
Esse com toda certeza é o maior jogador de todos os tempos! Simply the best!!!
El mejor jugador que he visto... Lo del barça fue unico.. cuando estaba en forma y corria era inigualable...😅
Nunca ganhou Champions
@@danielldino9305 - ni barça ni Inter podían jugar la champions cuando llegó... Y luego se lesionó .. y cuando llegó al Madrid de los galacticos ya estaba semi-retirado...
@@danielldino9305más ganhou duas copas do mundo!!
The real G.O.A.T. It's not even a debate.
The Greatest Striker? Yes. The greatest player ever. No.
The greatest player. YES.
@@PFrules You’re funny Paul. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Have a blessed day.
@@OMTV-vu9zx Probably know a lot more than you. Have a nice day.
@@PFrules Oh stop it. You said Ronaldo Nazario is the GOAT of soccer? Come on. You’re trippin’.
Ronaldo Fenômeno melhor da história junto com Pelé com certeza mano
Esse cara, pra mim, é o mais impressionante. Ele conseguia pensar muito rápido e o corpo obedecia, era pura explosão. Quando arrancava e engatava a quinta ninguém pegava.
Concentração total no jogo ... O corpo obedecia e funcionava. As avarias no mecanismo estragaram tudo...
@@josenascipO corpo respondeu ao cérebro até os 23. Após isso deu pane e não aguentou mais o raciocínio ultra rápido e as arrancadas e mudanças de direção descomunais.
el mejor 9 de la historia,y posiblemente la posicion con menor discusion del futbol,todos de acuerdo..
Ronaldo increible. tenía una fuerza que se llevaba a cualquier defensa y llegaba a portería con potencia para hacer el gol. fenómeno
L'ho visto e vissuto quel calcio in Italia... purtroppo oggi non c'è rimasto più nulla di quei tempi dove oltre i soldi c'erano soprattutto passione desidero entusiasmo fantasia coraggio e tanto altro.
Grazie a campioni come Ronaldo abbiamo gioito anche se non tifavamo Inter perché il calcio era soprattutto spettacolo e passione... oggi solo briciole di un tempi memorabili....😢❤😞⚽
Ronaldo Nazário - O Deus do Futebol.
I’ve watched football for 55 years, and Ronaldo, Maradona and Cruyff are the only footballers I’ve seen in my life with that special genius that make me forget to eat and drink. George Best and Romario are the other 2 special players, but their vices and lack of discipline took something away from their gifts.
Why did you stop watching I the last 20 years. Great players like Messi and Ronaldo surpassed those legends by light years. You should watch them once, you'll be blown.
@@maragia2009You kid, go to school and do your homework. You have a lot to learn.
@camilosp1385 he's right about messi though. Messi is one of a kind and arguably the greatest of all time. Ronaldo nazario can't touch him and if you say otherwise is because you are nostalgic. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if you've only seen his highlights and are just going with what every one is saying like a sheep.
@@shadow-man8715 jste oba úplně mimo. Nejspíš jste ani jeden nehráli fotbal. Ronaldo ten pravý z Brazilec je mnohem lepší než Ronaldo(Portugalsko) a Messi dohromady.
@robmar9575 delusional. The stats don't prove he is better. He's the most talented but in terms of player and importance to their teams cr7 and messi are superior. Cr7 is not great to watch compared to Ronaldo. I prefer Ronaldo but he is not better than cr7 and even further away from messi. Messi is the perfect player. Great at finishing, great at playmaking, great shooting, great passing. These highlights were great but look at his finishing. It isn't exactly on par with cr7 or messi. Don't get me started in the fact that he won zero champion league titles and won no serie a titles.
amo a este jugador R9 x siempre
Defenders falling all over the pitch. Guy was something else.
2:44 - Naturally right-footed, passes it in to the net and leaves the goalkeeper stranded. Genius.
Bonito video, sin dudas Ronaldo fue un adelantado en su época, que pedazo de jugador, de una finta y dribling único, no he visto un jugador hasta ahora con la clase que tenía Ronaldo
cuando conseguía girarse hacia portería era una bestia parda / when he managed to turn towards goal he was an absolute beast
As Neymarzetes nunca vão entender o que é um atacante de verdade, como esse aí.
👀...
Na minha opinião o Ronaldo foi o jogador mais completo que eu vi jogar, por tanto eie é muito superior a esta geração atual de jogadores.
Tabem gostaria de acrescentar que o Neymar é um dos melhores jogadores que o. Brasil produziu.
Das Phänomen. Der Muhammad Ali des Fußballs. Die Technik kombiniert mit Antritt und Endgeschwindigkeit, Intelligenz, Stärke, Schusstechnik. Er war unglaublich gut und sehr fair. Eine wahre Legende. Er war auch nicht mal unbedingt die beste 9 sondern vielmehr ein offensiv Allrounder. Seine erste Saison bei Inter trug er die 10, die ihm sehr gut stand. Aber ihm gefiel die 9 am besten, der Stoßstürmer welcher defensiv nicht mitmachen muss😂
Nunca vi igual ele é único.
The best forward of the 21st century. Buffon is the best goalkeeper, Maldini is the best defender, Zidane is the best midfielder and Messi is the best overall player.
Inigualable como cristiano jugara aunque sea un 20 por ciento de lo q jugaba este moustro del futbol
Para mi, Ronaldo “el fenómeno” , fue y será el mejor delantero de la historia del futbol. Nadie ha mostrado mayor destreza y habilidad a la hora de enfrentar el balón entre laterales y defensas como fue Ronaldo Nazario. Se que muchos dirán que Messi o CR7 son mejores, pero Ronaldo era de otro mundo a la hora de jugar.
Que metas a messi al nivel de cristiano demuestra que no sabes nada de fútbol.
@ estimado, estoy dando una opinión de futbol a mi parecer , y no quiere decir que no sepa de futbol. Tengo más de 50 años y creo haber visto bastantes futbolistas en mi vida y varios mundiales y creo tener la oportunidad de emitir una opinión
@felipesoto6262 tener 50 años no te hace saber más de fútbol y si te piensas que cr7 y messi están al mismo nivel, deja muy claro que no sabes. .
@ ok…. Como tú digas, no discutiré contigo….. te falta conocer más de futbol , niño
@felipesoto6262 te lo vuelvo a repetir.
Si crees que Cr7 y messi están al mismo nivel, no sabes.
Si se inventará la maquina del tiempo, la usaría para ver todos los partidos de las grandes leyendas
The better Ronaldo, the ORIGINAL RONALDO
There is only one. R9
Somente quem é um APAIXONADO (A) 💟 por o VERDADEIRO🔥 FUTEBOL⚽MÁGICO🌟🎊🎉🎉 sabe dizer tão PERFEITAS PALAVRAS IGUAIS ESSAS SUAS PALAVRAS🌟
Simplesmente não posso dizer que esse FUTEBOL⚽🔥🌟do RONALD9🌟⚽ não pertence somente à nós brasileiros 🇧🇷 mas sim à todos os verdadeiros apaixonados por o VERDADEIRO 🔥 FUTEBOL ⚽🌟 em todos os países do mundo ⚽🌟🤩💟🤗😘😘😘💟🤗
Cr7 is the real Ronaldo.. no offense Messi fan here .. with all the respect Nazario is great ! but Cris is another thing
@@filipe2306 did you watch what I watched or something else
@@Divandine-m4b iam Brazilian bro I watched 2002 word cup I know nazario better than the most and I tell this man Didn’t made 40% what Cr7 did put in the same sentence is almost a joke Nazario career is basically 02 word cup, and a very good with barça , 0 Ucl.. and so on but great talent injuries take a lot of him but even without he would come close to Cr7
Orgulho de ser brasileiro igual essa lenda!
R9 and maradona ... TOP EVER
Ronaldo had crazy stats when it came to matches:goals ratio that is unmatched to this day to the time he got his injury, which changed him for life. He was 23 when he got that injury, so look up at his stats. He scored more than Messi and CR7 at the same age. After that, he was never the same, although he was still very good.
Nothing will change my mind: he was the best striker ever. Unfortunately biology/genetics couldn't keep up with his talent.
Saat itu umur saya masih remaja.. Menyaksikan aksi ronaldo di inter membuat setiap pertandingan kaki saya basah karena adrenaline.. Moment yang mengiris hati saat ronaldo memaksa bermain dengan kaki pincang.. Setelah mencetak gol dia berlari merayakan sambil terpincang.. Ohh tidak salah para pemain tidak mengidolalan cristiano maupun messi.. Ronaldo nazario adalah pemain terhebat sepanjang masa.. Skill nya melebihi kondisi fisiknya sehingga kakinya tidak kuasa menggerakkan perintah dari kepalanya
Begitu hebat Ronaldo nazario? Saya sedih sebab saya muda 26 tahun tak dapat nak tengok legend ni semasa 90ahn 😢
the speed he moves and make decisions is unique,,,
O melhor 10 que surgiu, quando ele vestiu a 9 tudo começou a dar ruim, inclusive uma serie de lesões!
Que bárbaro que bruto es algo fuera de lo normal un verdadero monstruo un fenómeno de la naturaleza, no he vuelto a ver a alguien como el, el mejor delantero de la historia mundial de este hermoso deporte
Better than Messi and Cristiano combined. Better than anyone that ever played. No one will ever match the physical beauty of Ronaldo the fenomeno.
Concordo com você
Tolto Pelé ovviamente ci può stare 😂
Dans sont prime Messi n’a rien à envier à Ronaldo et inversement
Adriano was close but life then hit him hard so sad to see a talent that great go to waste
Never
Ronaldo Nazario the phenomenon is a complete player 👏
9:58 bro glitched🤦♂️😂
😂
Nesse tempo para ser o melhor do Mundo era preciso ser craque de verdade. 👍🏻⚽️
4:57 i think yall thinkin about goal . But this pass from Moriero was Visionary
el mejor delantero del mundo sin duda!
Dribbling very smooth elastico very perfect , nutmeg and speed
No lo han igualado definitivamente LO HA SUPERADO RONALDIÑO A ESTE SI QUE NADIE PODRA SUPERARLO
best player i've ever seen
if only he is playing in this generation.. what a joy to watch.. just a beautiful game
Thanks. Hadn't seen some of the footage on this video.
El mejor brasileiro de todos los tiempos!!!