BREAKING: 'Counting Cars' Danny Koker At 60 - The Dark Truth FINALLY LEAKS That Will Make You Gasp

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  • Опубликовано: 10 дек 2024

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  • @HiddenLegacies
    @HiddenLegacies  7 дней назад +20

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  • @roadking5270
    @roadking5270 4 дня назад +45

    He's always been a laid back guy. Who cares bout his personal business. Hope he's good.

  • @eugeneponcelet9377
    @eugeneponcelet9377 7 дней назад +69

    Went to his car place in Vegas. It is real cool. Free to get in. They have shirts and hats for sale there with alot of cool cars. I walked the first time. I'd suggest not walking because it ended up being over 6 miles. Take a cab. The desert is very hot. No air conditioner in the building but it isn't too bad. The employees are very nice and good. He runs a classy place.

  • @darrell9410
    @darrell9410 6 дней назад +53

    Boyd never built a car either. He just knew how to hire the right people.

    • @91prostreetstang
      @91prostreetstang 5 дней назад +4

      You need to Google chip, he has built more cars then 10 or 20 of us combined..

    • @londolly
      @londolly 4 дня назад

      I liked that show but he seemed too crabby to me

    • @MrJackson66
      @MrJackson66 4 дня назад +2

      Yes, they are visionaries, they see what they think the vehicle should look like and have the correct guys in the shop to bring the visions to life ... Not everyone that "builds" vehicles is hands on, most are just the vision and money 💰 guys . Most of it is art driven more than practical... Bad Chad up in Canada "builds" alot of vehicles, none of which are drivable on the road but look cool, lmfao 😆😂.
      To each his own .

  • @David-y6t9b
    @David-y6t9b 4 дня назад +12

    Worth 4 million but inherited 9 million from Daddy! Car builders don’t have clean hands!

  • @Plumbtired
    @Plumbtired 6 дней назад +61

    Anyone is capable of anything under the right circumstances. I wish Danny the best. No judgement here.

  • @jasonchristopher2977
    @jasonchristopher2977 9 дней назад +137

    He may mot be a Foose or Barris but he did bring more light to the world of cars. Were all not perfect. We all stumble. We fall. In the days of internet every tripnis recorded forever. All our heros are just human. I liked the show and im glad he is doing well. Drugs and booze do not discriminate. Anybody can fall. Anybody.

    • @londolly
      @londolly 7 дней назад +1

      hes just an old hippy and drugy , no respect from me , brag him up all you want but the truth is the truth , same as a barfly to me

    • @darkhorse6642
      @darkhorse6642 5 дней назад +5

      Well Said Sir. Very Well Said. I Thank You For That. I Felt It. Thanks.

    • @Jenyb420
      @Jenyb420 3 дня назад +3

      You can admire someone.. but no one should have idol status.. not a single individual is worthy nor would anyone who’s truly grounded want it.. the show was pretty awesome though

  • @greggorycraig1808
    @greggorycraig1808 6 дней назад +52

    I liked the show and he seemed like a likeable dude who was a strong patriot. Everybody makes mistake, wish him the best.

  • @KendoSamp
    @KendoSamp 4 дня назад +9

    Always saw him as an awesome guy. True to his heart! As far as “wrong doing”, let those without sin, cast the first stone…

  • @RandomParrot
    @RandomParrot 4 дня назад +15

    The best part about Counting Cars, there wasnt a last minute race the clock. I hated it on OCC, and Ass Monkey

  • @LyNguyen-t8p
    @LyNguyen-t8p 6 дней назад +25

    At 60, his story remains as intriguing as ever, and this exposé offers a new perspective on the man behind Counting Cars. It's a must-watch for anyone who has followed his journey or admired his incredible work over the years!"

  • @KenSheedy-fd1hf
    @KenSheedy-fd1hf 5 дней назад +10

    The car culture is always going to be there. Danny is one of the best to showcase the passion. My father had show cars. One featured at the Hershey event, another at Pebble Beach. I wish the best for him

  • @lachlanmacarthur6123
    @lachlanmacarthur6123 4 дня назад +4

    Loved counting cars Danny had a great workforce and he led them as any boss should , let them use their skills to good effect while guiding the play , great show wish they still made it

  • @advantageous1
    @advantageous1 4 дня назад +9

    Liked the show. Well wishes to him and his family. We all have stumbled...but the main thing is to get back up!

  • @Jr-sn7qd
    @Jr-sn7qd 7 дней назад +22

    Huge fan of the show because they made the cars the stars. Danny was made for this kind of reality show I wish it would go on forever. Good luck and God bless all who worked to make this the best car restoration show ever.

  • @brianpeterson5559
    @brianpeterson5559 6 дней назад +8

    So your in recovery, that's how you get it all back. Change your friends and become accountable. I wish the best for you friend, I've been there and freedom in sobriety is possible

  • @eduardosalcedosr1727
    @eduardosalcedosr1727 7 дней назад +39

    DANNY KOKER I STILL WATCH HIS SHOW EVERY DAY 12/03/2024 🚘

  • @seriously3130
    @seriously3130 4 дня назад +8

    I believe "Iconic" is the proper descriptive word for Mr. Koker.

  • @bobbymac3696
    @bobbymac3696 3 дня назад +7

    So he had a drug addiction?? Show me anyone talented person who hasn't. Or better yet a great actor in Hollywood who hasn't. Why are people on the History or Discovery Channel held to a different standard? Maybe the Count fell a little further because he didn't play the victim card more. He took responsibility, manned up, and did his time.
    The most talented of us are also the most embattled.

    • @donmiller1304
      @donmiller1304 2 дня назад +1

      Everybody got something bigger than they are. Cheeseburgers,line of crank,drink of liquor. You live long enough without sliding through on a greard ass and yiure gonna have troubles. Nobody got up this morning and said today im finally gonna be a tweaker

  • @Mike-dg1hh
    @Mike-dg1hh 5 дней назад +14

    When the Old Man from "Pawn Stars" was still alive, Danny restored a classic Chrysler Imperial for him. He showed the most emotion I'd ever seen for the finished product, which was flawless.

    • @tdw5933
      @tdw5933 5 дней назад

      The Old Man was one cool dude,the rest are turds in a punchbowl.

    • @CalmDownClown
      @CalmDownClown 4 дня назад

      That whole bit was another Staged Fakery

  • @KevinJones-qr2jh
    @KevinJones-qr2jh 7 дней назад +22

    I enjoyed Counting Cars and FastnLoud. Danny was always cooler than Richard in my eyes.. ROCKSTAR😮

    • @pathunter7003
      @pathunter7003 5 дней назад +1

      Fast n loud were complete hacks, they ruined many good cars

  • @AntiPattern328
    @AntiPattern328 5 дней назад +6

    Love this guy and especially his wife Corey so much more than you can imagine. They touched so many people deeply I can't explain. Forever, got your back!

  • @kerrystrunk3194
    @kerrystrunk3194 6 дней назад +17

    maybe Danny wasn't turning the wrench's , but he was pretty good at making the decision of what looks good ! Danny also did a lot for charity !! Boyd Coddington, Richard Rawlings, were pretty much were money men had there crew do the dirty work, never thought to much of orange county choppers pretty much kit bikes, the real craftsman were Indian Larry and Jesse James , these two guys had the skills to pay the bills !!!!

    • @kman-mi7su
      @kman-mi7su 3 дня назад

      The two of Them knew how to manage a team to get the work done. A skill in itself that many fail at

  • @leonhenry365
    @leonhenry365 7 дней назад +27

    Well, I have to say, with his paint team, and the show was definitely a must watch. My now 15 yr old use to watch the show with me and he has a solid "ol' skool" passion to restore old cars!! Danny has shed such a positive light on breathing fresh air and life into old broken down relics to become reborn machines! We all have a little addiction, nobody should be shamed for his addictions. Help him and let him blossom! Danny keep moving forward....God Bless!

    • @danielquaternik22
      @danielquaternik22 2 дня назад

      I really like how you put that. Hope you and your son are doing well!! Merry Christmas!!

  • @oldgrayhairs8246
    @oldgrayhairs8246 5 дней назад +5

    The Count ☠️ and his crew of experts 👍 are missed on TV big time! They are the BEST! STAY WELL 🙏🏼 my friends! ☠️🇺🇸

  • @glennoropeza3545
    @glennoropeza3545 5 дней назад +13

    I watched hours of his episodes! He kept the classic car cult very alive!

  • @rx4rays7
    @rx4rays7 5 дней назад +8

    We love Danny, God Bless. May he guide us thru life .

    • @londolly
      @londolly 4 дня назад

      you mean with drugs ? I dont think so

    • @londolly
      @londolly 2 дня назад

      he cant guide us , hes a druggy

  • @stevejohnson8703
    @stevejohnson8703 3 дня назад +2

    I like Danny, who never met a stranger, wish him the best

  • @doobydude420
    @doobydude420 9 часов назад +1

    Hope he holds strong. And best wishes to danny ans family and extended family

  • @christiandulaney1638
    @christiandulaney1638 2 дня назад +2

    Love the sinner, hate the sin. There are plenty of people struggling with addiction. Hopefully hes on the right track now
    Seems like an amazing guy that fell into addiction. I like him even more now!

  • @Frederick-pm7gh
    @Frederick-pm7gh 6 дней назад +4

    I was surprised nothing was mentioned about his time living in Florida. During those years he was really getting into the car scene.

  • @StanKeebler
    @StanKeebler 8 дней назад +18

    I think he made it a long way..one of the best shows to watch..

  • @richardvr5448
    @richardvr5448 5 дней назад +4

    life is a group of twists that lead us forwards,. when Life puts adversity in front of you, you can crumble or overcome. Never let the fact that life being the easiest thing eva is easy, cause only you make it hard.

  • @AnthonyBrake-w2g
    @AnthonyBrake-w2g 5 дней назад +9

    I've never seen him get dirty 😂😂

    • @snox90km
      @snox90km 4 дня назад +3

      I own a few shops and you won't see me get my hands dirty either. I have emoloyees for that. Im just the educated one that takes on the risk of running the business. Youre broke and apparently dont understand this concept.

    • @kingalfred3902
      @kingalfred3902 4 дня назад +1

      He was the BOSS..!!!......Maybe you dont know what bosses do ...do you ...???

    • @londolly
      @londolly 2 дня назад

      thats because hes the vowner , why should he ?

  • @MikeStigs
    @MikeStigs 5 дней назад +2

    Danny is a good guy. I live in Las Vegas hung out with him a few times when I was racing years ago.

  • @moralobjection4836
    @moralobjection4836 2 дня назад

    I hope he keeps his head above water and gets to keep doing what he loves. Don't know the guy, but I know some of the battles. It takes a lot out of any of us, but not many of us give so much back into the world.

  • @ADayWithFrank
    @ADayWithFrank 4 дня назад +2

    Danny is exactly 3 years younger than me we have the same birthday 🎉 Happy holidays Danny and Happy Birthday in January 🎉🎉

  • @robdunham7398
    @robdunham7398 4 дня назад +1

    I watched his show and I visited his shop in a crappy industrial area.
    Was even treated to seeing a cop investigating a dead homeless guy.

  • @indiandaeng
    @indiandaeng 5 дней назад +4

    An American success story.

  • @bobmatthews6918
    @bobmatthews6918 4 дня назад +1

    I loved the show and the cars they put out. Great history piece on the origin of Danny

  • @chrisburke7646
    @chrisburke7646 5 дней назад +2

    It's hard not to like any show that specializes in cars although the entertaining workers at the shop are fun to watch

  • @troygaskins1301
    @troygaskins1301 2 дня назад

    The real legends are the stylist's that developed and formed the car to begin with, all these customizers are truly talented but most cars look better the way they were born

  • @dronesetc9769
    @dronesetc9769 5 дней назад +3

    It’s entertainment, I loved the show. many have drug addiction . Especially with tons of money.
    I have 36 years clean. Eminem clean. None inch nails lead clean. Best wishes Danny

  • @skeggjoldgunnr3167
    @skeggjoldgunnr3167 4 дня назад +3

    I always felt - If only he could pull that piece of fabric down over his eyes just a little bit more...

    • @kymyoung1028
      @kymyoung1028 3 дня назад +1

      Ohh U made my day 😂🎉 . Pssst, I was thinking the same 😊

  • @denis9450
    @denis9450 9 дней назад +11

    Miss the show from the UK

  • @joeytacey743
    @joeytacey743 7 дней назад +6

    I saw him 3 weeks ago at the 2024 SEMA convention it was at the Napa booth

  • @jasonmachado5551
    @jasonmachado5551 5 дней назад +7

    Bros forhead so big he has to wear that bandanna everyday😂😂😂

  • @silencefiction60
    @silencefiction60 День назад

    Danny is a good guy, he's never worked out a day in his life but he is hardcore 😉👍

  • @StickyFalanges
    @StickyFalanges 4 дня назад +1

    How anyone is surprised by a guy doing/selling drugs in the industries he is involved in? To many square bears in the forest 12:09

  • @mikebaird6788
    @mikebaird6788 7 дней назад +8

    He couldn't turn any car it was a rust bucket into a piece of art I saw many cars that he just completely gave up on

    • @pathunter7003
      @pathunter7003 5 дней назад +2

      I did hear some of the cars outa his shop were not the majestic pieces of art the show would like us to believe

    • @indiandaeng
      @indiandaeng 5 дней назад +4

      People don't want to pay the cost of turning junk into a classic.

    • @kman-mi7su
      @kman-mi7su 3 дня назад +2

      So what? Every car can’t be saved, and you have to know when to hold them and went to fold them.

  • @clifforddriver9434
    @clifforddriver9434 День назад

    Damn, for a while there, I was under the impression I was the only one who had drug issues at one point in life.

  • @edwinrodeo
    @edwinrodeo 3 дня назад

    Good show. One of best spinoffs from pawn stars.. wish him & the gang well

  • @chevy427ify
    @chevy427ify 8 дней назад +11

    Love the show

  • @keithkammerhofer80
    @keithkammerhofer80 5 часов назад

    On the pipe with Chumlee and Big Hoss LOL would've been a riot!

  • @jeffhunt9444
    @jeffhunt9444 4 дня назад +1

    I once saw him fix five finger death punches motorcycle and gave tattoo voucher to him.

  • @HarryBishop-w8k
    @HarryBishop-w8k 4 дня назад +1

    Danny is a few months older than my mom.

  • @tphvictims5101
    @tphvictims5101 9 дней назад +23

    First ? Chip Foose
    George Barris
    Definitely not this guy.

    • @JackWelsh-gw7gl
      @JackWelsh-gw7gl 8 дней назад +3

      Foose or Barris, Never created Anything for enthusiastist 🤔

  • @emojiman4560
    @emojiman4560 3 дня назад +1

    I lived in Las Vegas and would visit my friend who owned 10th St automotive, Danny came by and asked the owner about his cars in the back and Homer told him to get off his property. He never came back.

  • @74Dyenamo
    @74Dyenamo 7 дней назад +5

    Did anyone else see fangs at 11:36 and 11:37 and then at 11:40 it looked like they were gone?

  • @TamalaBurcham
    @TamalaBurcham 8 дней назад +6

    Miss the show from Joseph Roger Bowen commerce Georgia

  • @XENONEOMORPH1979
    @XENONEOMORPH1979 4 дня назад +2

    ford motor company supported that guy in 1939 with loads of cash. koker gets 30 days the local public gets 2 years or more.

    • @londolly
      @londolly 2 дня назад

      he wasnt even born yet in 39 , dah

    • @XENONEOMORPH1979
      @XENONEOMORPH1979 2 дня назад

      @@londolly work out what i commentated on word by word.

    • @londolly
      @londolly 2 дня назад

      I did but you said ford supported him in 1939 but he was not born yet , sorry but Im missing something or Im just not as smart as you

    • @XENONEOMORPH1979
      @XENONEOMORPH1979 2 дня назад

      @@londolly so who was not born yet , it got nothing to do who is smart .
      Its all about knowledge ,i do not stand on a soap box .

  • @johnbarber1530
    @johnbarber1530 5 дней назад +6

    All of these so-called reality TV shows are Shady.

  • @mikestand714
    @mikestand714 5 дней назад +1

    he has skill no doubt.

  • @HoneySingh-vl9sn
    @HoneySingh-vl9sn 3 дня назад

    County cars and pawn shop last one was restored every thing love from India

  • @xfirehurican
    @xfirehurican 4 дня назад +1

    *These bums dikked up the functional cowling hood (cheapo bondo job instead of metal, like I was quoted) on my 70 Chevelle SS.*

    • @glen30-kx5st
      @glen30-kx5st 3 дня назад

      Wow, that sucks man. Sue his ass. Never liked girly arms Danny Koker.

  • @tommylee7657
    @tommylee7657 7 дней назад +5

    This man was nothing but a TV joke that’s all he was right from the beginning and he will be right to the end. I’m eight years old. I was involved with a car customizing industry from the very beginning this guy nothing but a joke thank God he’s gone. Maybe he’ll be joining some of those Disneyland Democrats, and they can do the YMCA dance together while they’re pulling time in the joint

    • @JimClazie
      @JimClazie 6 дней назад +1

      Completely agree.

    • @harleyhalo
      @harleyhalo 4 дня назад +1

      You 8 yrs old????

    • @snox90km
      @snox90km 4 дня назад +1

      Who let the 8 year old on the internet? 😂

  • @tnridge
    @tnridge 4 дня назад

    Anyone that means you me or anyone not matter the color of your skin or if you are rich or poor it's easy to get addicted to some kind of substance. I've been there and I know many the same way. Some function and carry on a daily life that was me and some get in the gutter and stay their til they hit rock bottom or die. No one wakes up one day and says; ' I want to be an addict". That's just the way it is. I did watch many episodes of this show. The guy that was on I think first two season's Scott lives in the town I live in. I've met him do not know the story of why he left other than rumors. God Bless Danny to me seemed like he was a down to earth good person that has had a good life. Seems to me he worked for everything he has.

  • @raymondmirabal5879
    @raymondmirabal5879 6 дней назад

    Him as a rock and roll singer of course!

  • @danielulery8726
    @danielulery8726 4 дня назад

    When he is done with paperwork he was always in the shop

  • @AnthonyBrake-w2g
    @AnthonyBrake-w2g 5 дней назад +5

    Anyone can make it if you're backed by money 😂

  • @davidlockwood8703
    @davidlockwood8703 5 дней назад +1

    Went. To valley high had auto class before Danny worked at a haunted house he ran. He roll up in a black Hurst alot had changed since

  • @kaygeezy6748
    @kaygeezy6748 3 дня назад

    Awesome show....

  • @darylone481
    @darylone481 3 дня назад

    Please wear sleeves with those noodles . Otherwise cool !!!

    • @phyllis2638
      @phyllis2638 3 дня назад +1

      DANNY is and always will be the kindest and honest guy I have ever met 💞 I wish Danny his family & crew nothing but the BEST !! Danny will always be in my prayers 🙏🏻 love you Danny 💞💞💞Phyllis (SHESHE) SUMMER OF 77 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @robertmceuen3630
    @robertmceuen3630 5 дней назад +2

    What a massive lawsuit.😅A whole 50 grand. Wow. How would anyone handle the pressure. He did his "time." A whole 30 DAYS. How did he do all that time?
    This video is so weak. From his "zah" 28 to that massive lawsuit to all that jail time. Plus the narrator...😅

  • @keith3970
    @keith3970 4 дня назад +1

    Why does he wear that thing on his head?

    • @glen30-kx5st
      @glen30-kx5st 3 дня назад

      It's his version of a toupee.

    • @londolly
      @londolly 2 дня назад

      because hes a drug using hippy , thats why

  • @michaelr4063
    @michaelr4063 3 дня назад

    I’ve mostly seen him destroy nice vintage cars with his ‘vision’. Plus…., he dresses up in a costume every day. Like it’s Halloween….. every day.., which is a bit psychotic IMO

  • @Mtnsandoceans
    @Mtnsandoceans 2 дня назад

    His hands were never dirty !😂

  • @deantarry-t1x
    @deantarry-t1x 8 дней назад +12

    ❤ Danny koaka on coca noooooooh ❤ we love you Dan but stay off the coca❤

  • @keith3970
    @keith3970 4 дня назад

    Hey,YooToob,why is it that my comment made two seconds ago is placed with comments made two DAYS ago? Huh?

  • @sosasmith2479
    @sosasmith2479 3 дня назад

    I loved that show

  • @VgambinoVgambino
    @VgambinoVgambino 6 дней назад +1

    Look how he look what do you think

    • @pathunter7003
      @pathunter7003 5 дней назад

      His show couldn’t last much longer anyway, they don’t make the snot rags he wears on his head much larger😖

  • @seethingsclearlyawaken3424
    @seethingsclearlyawaken3424 5 дней назад +4

    I was wondering why he always wears a babooshka on his head like an old Ukrainian Grandmother?!

  • @ohwhatelse
    @ohwhatelse 4 дня назад

    well, 'count', bet my grandson wld enjoy talking & workin on rods with you. he's a top notch mechanic, body/fender guy & auto painter. ppl bring their high priced classics from outta country for him to do their work & they send him pics of the awards they get for his work-- bcz he's a perfectionist, like you.
    yup, i'm very proud of him! and i'm leaving him my estate so he can open his own shop.....

  • @liberpater1342
    @liberpater1342 7 дней назад +4

    Ditched A$$ Monkey Garage after I found Counting Cars. Richard is just a money ho, whereas Danny always displayed a passion for his work and customer satisfaction. I'm not one to be "star struck", but out of all the celebrity types, Danny seems like the kind of guy you could hang out with, maybe share a beer or two.

    • @christiandulaney1638
      @christiandulaney1638 2 дня назад

      Richard just seems like an ass. Kind of an annoying nerd. Not a fan

  • @wayne387
    @wayne387 6 дней назад

    I remember watching him after Head Bangers Ball.

  • @freebird7284
    @freebird7284 4 дня назад

    fame ain't for the meek

  • @Grinchy1230
    @Grinchy1230 5 дней назад +3

    Laughing at all the haters, you don’t have to know how to do the work to be a successful businessman, just look at Trump he doesn’t have a clue he just surrounded himself with those that do.

    • @CalmDownClown
      @CalmDownClown 4 дня назад

      Bro the guy is a Broke Clown these days

  • @jamescherney5874
    @jamescherney5874 6 дней назад +7

    The guy was a complete fraud. His spindly arms snd hands never turned a wrench. A complete BS artist.

  • @donaldlisle3417
    @donaldlisle3417 4 дня назад

    Peace

  • @tremendisimous
    @tremendisimous 3 дня назад

    Counting bars! Tupit!

  • @johncoe6304
    @johncoe6304 5 дней назад +2

    The count was awesome. This is nonsense. Envy and jealousy is all. He's very knowledgeable. Good guy.

  • @AntiPattern328
    @AntiPattern328 5 дней назад +1

    Go Danny! Nobody's perfect do your thing. I've got your back no matter what!!!

  • @jackwillson8099
    @jackwillson8099 6 дней назад +6

    Lol he couldn't do shit ,with out his workers

  • @michaelsteiger8509
    @michaelsteiger8509 5 дней назад

    Why did he wrap a towel around his head?

    • @ivortoad
      @ivortoad 5 дней назад

      I think they act like tennis sweat bands

    • @CalmDownClown
      @CalmDownClown 4 дня назад +1

      trying to hide his Bald head hard to look Cool with a bald head

  • @FrankHammond-kp9yb
    @FrankHammond-kp9yb 4 дня назад +3

    Skill he didn't build any of the cars or bikes

  • @AbdullahiBenford
    @AbdullahiBenford 3 дня назад

  • @robertmilliard9853
    @robertmilliard9853 6 дней назад +2

    Every one of these TV car guys over the past 20 years have one thing in common. They are all Nepo babies From F-1 Motorsports in Connecticut to Chip Foose and everyone in between let’s not forget Orange County chopper’s boy who learn to weld a hatchet or a wrench on to the side of a bike .

  • @PaulEvemy
    @PaulEvemy 7 дней назад +4

    I really enjoyed the series my best parts were the crazy upholstery lady who always does a awesome job and everyone was scared of 😂

    • @joelong1526
      @joelong1526 7 дней назад +3

      Wrong show there buddy

  • @Jodyrides
    @Jodyrides 7 дней назад +2

    never watched it. I didn’t know this guy’s name, I saw him with that turbin on his head, but I didn’t know his name.

  • @luismrodriguez7360
    @luismrodriguez7360 7 дней назад +7

    Never liked the show, it was all about going around trying to bullshit your way into buying cars of the streets or restoring someone's car to their vision of what the car should look like.
    Well I preferred to watch Gas Monkey .Never mind counting cars or what ever they counted behind the viewers backs