What annoyed me about this scene and in general the Rollo arc is that it shows Rollo as the only Viking to accept christianity and settle there and it doesn't show all the other Vikings that chose him as their ruler and decided to settle in Normandy. Those other Vikings were crucial to stopping further Viking raids into France, and they should have been shown in this scene fighting against the Norse.
Agreed. Especially as he is shown killing fellow Vikings who stayed in Francia, which made no sense - the threat of the Vikings close to Paris was Rollos bargaining chip, if he kills all followers off, he would lose all leverage against the Frankish nobles. Liked the battle and the series nonetheless.
Half wanted to stay Pagen, the other half was a gamble he wouldn’t be stabbed in the back. With him being the Only converted Christian Viking it’s not like they can go to any of his men and replace him.
While I do agree with you and think that a battle between the Normen of Rollo who are going to fight against their ex kin in order to protect their new land against the northmen of Ragnar would have been beyond epic, i believe Rollo had no other choice on that matter. As he was making such a final step like estabilishing himself in a new land and becoming a Duke, he couldn't afford an army divided, because he'd probably have to face a rebellion and a cospiracy against his life and his new family. Moreover, the vikings left behind with him had made the huge mistake of sending their emissary to the Frank palace, where Rollo was constantly under observation (since at the start, the emperor and the franks were very far from trusting Rollo for what his brother had done to them, even though Charles had given Rollo his daughter to marry): did they really think that the Franks would have tolerated a man coming to their house and tell them they didn't accept their conditions to stay permanently and legally *in their own land* after what their king had done to Paris? Did they really think they'd not face repercussions? They signed their death warrant by sending Eirik, and worse, of their families as well. Rollo knew all of this, and also mad for the insubordination, acted by consequences.
@@cristinademartini6653 In reality, also the Francian kings would be interested in the additional manpower of the Viking settlers for their military Defense, which would be lost by killing them all off. And Rollo (in the series) might have punished traitors more selectively, coercing the others to abandon their mutiny. But in the end, „Vikings“ wanted to set up Rollo as the antagonist to Ragnar, and the killing of the mutineers made it clear that he joined the enemy camp. So, for storytelling purposes, it makes sense.
Season 4 probed that without Rollo.... Ragnar couldn't achieve what he achieved but He never give credit to Rollo.... But Rollo achieved everything on his own
Love Clive's acting in this scene. You can see the regret on his face, and the apprehension, especially when Lagartha gets close enough that he can see her and she him - they were still family once upon his time. But Paris is his home now, so he has to defend it. And he does it incredibly.
@@moimoi2994 Rollo was the first ruler of Normandy and the most famous of any of the characters in the entire show. Why would you assume he was a brute, when the real life history heavily suggests otherwise?
I always liked this scene. It shows that if a Norseman/ Dane could be sided on the other side, they could just use the tactics against the Norse/ Danes.
1. Every third warrior is a woman 2. The main characters don't have helmets 3. Ridiculous battle tactics 4. The castle looks about as historically accurate as something from lego Yep, post 2000 cinema
Historically the battle was weird. 30k vikings against Paris 200 men garrison. A 150 to 1 ratio. The vikings got there and had no siege weapons that worked properly and the ones that worked were useless against the walls. They literally had no chance despite outnumbering the Parisian army by so much. They never even left the fortress to fight and the siege lasted for several months. This was the second attack on Paris. The first one had been successful.
That is true. And I think rollo was like 50 years younger than Ragnar is real life. So he started attacking years later until he became the Norman duke.
@@ibrohiem You didn’t read my comment correct and it was about 50 years between them at most. Rollo was born between 835 and 870 and Ragnar was born in 909. And I will say again I am not referring to the show I am referring to what we know historically.
Be l'uso delle balestre è storicamente confermato venivano usate dai popoli germanici e si di fusero durante le in vasioni barbariche addirittura da le fonti si che verranno usate dal esercito romano del quarto secolo durante e alla fine del alto medievo venivano ampiamente utilizzate non dappertutto ma venivano utilizzate
It's called using the advantage of your position and weaponry. What's the point in fighting the vikings in hand to hand combat when the can loose bolts and arrows
Contrary to modern stereotypes the people on the region we call France had through history some of the best fighters on the world, Gauls, Celts, Napoleon Army...all fantastic warriors, smart ones, they had to be, they lived on rich land surrounded by strong peoples.
@@cesaravegah3787 Agree I kinda wish that's how they were portrayed. But I like the idea also since the Vikings tend to equal the French in melee combat they resort to using range of their cross bows and bows to wear the Vikings down.
This was the true power of Christianity back then, you earn your side among us regardless your origin once you are baptized, similar principle to that use in Roman law. The church did well in preserving old Greek and Roman knowledge.
Same in Ottomans, which recruited hundreds of former christians and jews as generals, admirals, governors, prime ministers, and so on. As such, one third to half of all famous ottoman generals and almost 2/3 of all ottoman admirals were former italians, greek, serbians, bosnians, albanians, dutch, and englishmen
so many pirates meeting their ends. Glorious! (jokes aside, it felt good watching the vikings fail as they are mostly shown just steamrolling everything)
yeah the only time before this was when horik caused them to be surrounded by Ecbert and Aelles forces edit: also when horik was ambushed and lost a son
It really helps to know your enemies. he never even attempted to fight melee as his men stood no chance But had a huge advantage at range except for viking Hawkeye at 5.26. Those towers couldn't have been place better.
In the Game of Thrones books, there was a chain raised during The Battle of Blackwater that trapped much of Stannis’ ships in as the wildfire ships detonated. We never got to see the chain in the show, but this is a close similarity.
The byzantines had a massive chain in constantinopolis hindering ottoman ships from entering the golden horn where the walls weren't as protected as the western Theodosian Walls. Anyways, the ottoman madlads circumvented this by, and I shit you not, carrying the ships over land past the chain.
@@mertinibus crusaders did that in the first Crusade, vikings did that too to get AROUND Paris (they never took it) Greeks & Romans it was pretty common throughout history until the ships got too big
Finally, a realistic fight. Danes had absolutely no shot of taking a powerful city like Paris. They weren't organized enough and we're technologically challenged. Sure, they were big strong brave warriors but this is the 10th century. Get with the times.
Haha. Modern Danes don't like this. Stop taking it so personally. It's the truth. Remember, this was well before the great Heathen Army, which was formidable.0
The one thing i loved about Rollos Frankia arc is that fir the firstctimr we see he is actually alot smarter then you'd think. Constructing a perfect counter and trap with the forts and the chain. As well as,backup boats should they break free. Or just to finish them off. He may not be as intelligent as Ragnar, but there sure is a bit of Odin within.
Rollo was not rewarded or recognized by Ragnar who often took his loyalty for granted. Ragnar believed that his only brother in life would follow him. However he did not realize that Rollo was also very human and had harbored jealousy towards his elder brother's dominance in his life. The fact that Bjorn was his son meant that Rollo also desired over Ragnar's first wife. I think this the indicative reason for the turning which Ragnar never paid attention. Ragnar by any sense was a wise man, a man that was fixated on his greatness and legacy. He spent little time thinking about politics, even internal political affairs. So what if he had brought the great empire of the Eastern Franks to their knees with the first sack of Paris. So what if he had ravaged Northumbria and Mercia, pillaging at will? His downfall would be the betrayal of his own brother Rollo at the second siege of Paris. Instead of furthering Viking expansion into Francia, he gave the best gift he could to Francia by giving away Rollo who would defend the northern province of Normandy from further Viking incursions. The only takeaway for Ragnar isn't the wealth or the fame, but rather that his people, the Vikings would populate Normandy and assimilate into their culture and language and religion. They would also do so in Anglo Saxon England ultimately and that is his lasting legacy, the marriage of his ethnic people with the rest of the world.
It is also the mentality of that period. During the early middle ages the Merovingians and Carolingians had to reward their nobles with land to keep them checked and assure their loyalty. Ragnarr, as king, had the obligation to give his brother a piece of land.
What plot armor are you talking about? What did you favor the French in this case? I'm watching the series again and I think this battle is ridiculous. The only thing the Vikings had to do was to dock the ships on the left bank and try to destroy the tower and the chain. They were much superior in number.
Show how much you know about history,chains indeed could tip a boat and were used in small ricer ways to stop raids on smaller villages, focking the boats as you say would have taken an incredible amount of unity only made possible by communication. That would be hard when 10 boats back your only command is to row forward, you try to Dock you will get one or two boats and cause chaos with the rest. The tactics were sound and that's why river forts were made like this as they were a perfect counter.
@@kdeathwing Chains were used since the times of ancient Greeks. Their purpose is to block vessels, not to flip them over. Viking drakkars had shallow, keels and almost flat bottoms. Hence low center of gavity and low center of bouyancy; a condition which made them extremely stable. Even at full speed (unlikely while approaching ashore) they would rather have "jumped" over the chain than roll over. Simple physics.
i still think Vikings shouldve stuck with england. frankia at that time was quite powerful and they were too reliant on quick attacks from the water. not a good choice against fortified cities.
Is difficult to approve what Rollo did betraying his own family but also understandable. He’s choices were living under his brother shadow or finally achieving greatnesses fighting for the opposite side. We have to put ourselves in his shoes to understand the situation
One of my favorite Bruce Lee quotes is: The first time a person experiences something it's essentially invisible. Think Anthony Pettis' Showtime Kick of Bendo over 10 years ago...people have been using the cage as a catapult ever since and fighters are more aware of that particular danger...Benson, he had no idea what was coming... Not being KO'd by that kick was a W in an of itself. --- Now I'm thinking about Robert Redford in The Last Castle and how he got Tony Soprano ( RIP ) to show his hand before it was absolutely necessary. After you've seen something no matter how devastating it may be, you can then create a formidable gameplan if the same set of circumstances arises in the future, as this clip clearly demonstrates.
Great battles scenes ever produced in the world.. It looks like watching the real battle. They've showed vividly Rangar's confidence breaking gradually. Great performance by everyone
When I think of the Vikiings I always add in the Romans, the Rus, the Mongols, the Nazis, the Redcoats, and the Americans. All were/are vicious, barbaric cultures that murdered for fun.
@@steviebro0538 Again, the unlikely ignorant ones are wheeled out. No contesting the list, nor those mentioned. No opinion on why certain groups should not be included. Just a simplistic, low intelligence, low IQ offering, that does no credit to any opposing ideas at all.
Honestly I don't know what they were going to accomplish with so few warriors. At best they could distract the defenders, or possibly lower/ break the chain which would've allowed the Vikings to pass. But the Franks would be expecting that.
Crossbows deadly weapon but honestly they should've hired some archers too. Provide more arrows and bolts down range to keep them pinned. Along side that wasn't a bad idea attacking from both sides with crossbows and the towers. Tho they should've done more than just two towers and such. Glad the vikings suffered such a defeat cuz they were too strong really.
I mean Rollo was a Viking. Good advantage to have. To know your enemy. Especially when the enemy is your own clan and kin. And brother. Combined with what the French had. Crossbows were pretty new at that time. Plus Rollo brought some new arsenal and tricks. And knew Viking weaknesses.
One of the very few that were actually good at repelling viking attacks. With the help of other Vikings. Christian kings making deals with Vikings was actually pretty common.
@@yantzeburger5062 I mean indeed it is pretty common to hire people that are enemies to the ones your fighting especially if they know their strategies and such. Plus that it would've been nicer if the towers had more cover and arrow slits to shoot through especially when the vikings had bows of their own. And that I feel they should've had another set of towers further down incase the vikings had did made it through somehow. Along side reserve troops in the woods while the vikings were all stuck in the waters more crossbows would've rain at them and troops ready to prevent them from landing but seeing that Lagatha had flanked around to try sneaking. Yeah I kinda doubt they would've done so I retract my opinion on having troops waiting in the woods to ambush the vikings. I think what would've favored Frankia is building a bridge between the two forts/towers and such. A blockade but ships would have to come through an metal gate which probably would've taken time yes.
To stop Vikings sailing up the river the French eventually built stone bridges. These could easily be blocked or drop stones upon unfriendly ships. For this movie battle the French could’ve done more. More archers and catapults, more stakes in the bank. Raise the chain after several ships have passed, cutting the fleet into 2 groups, ideally isolating the leaders. But if their position had appeared too strong, Ragnar would’ve looked for another way. The trick of defensive engineering is feigning weak spots to lure an enemy into kill zones. Ivar does this at York, supposedly forgetting to defend a section of wall then ambushing the saxons that climbed in.
In the first and second season she wasn't so bad; but in the third and fourth: well, I only say that the frank soldier's shield on her face was very satisfying to me. And honestly, i hope in vikings valhall Freydis shall have a similar moment too.
As french, in reality the Viking were not so savage. The king of France gave to them a province : Normandy, for people of the North. There are still people with a name which come from Vicking as some village and cities as " La Hague." There were very courageous and much more cultural as 9:21 we think Norvegian, Swedish, Dane. are now welcome.
The first event was a quick and successful siege of Paris that occurred inn 845 AD, led by Ragnar Lothbrok. The Vikings breached the city walls, raided and sacked Paris, and were subsequently paid off with around 2,570 kilos (5,665 pounds) of silver and gold.
Emmm the crazy thing is my uncle *ray was a behind the scenes person here and it is for his job like so he builds stuff and for this show he built a good bit of the castle apparently and You may or may not know that the wood that was on like the castle well some of it is out my BACKYARD! On the fence so my uncle put it there for us and it’s CRAZY TO THINK A PART OF A FREAKING TV SHOW IS IM MY BACKYARD and the wood was used for a new fence!
4:35 They have a forrest, reaching near to the fortress which would give them excellent cover, but instead they attack from the open field?! How stupid is that? And why are the french using LARP-Crossbows with 10 pounds of drawweight. I mean, come on. Look how easy they pull the string with two fingers.
I find it hard to believe that Ivar manage to get his men inside Paris you may hate him but he has far better strategies than Ragnar and floki did to win battles or to conquer territories
I fear you are referring to York, in England: this is Paris in the reign of the Western Franks, and for what I know, Ivar was never there, and Paris was never in history a viking city and in France there was no Danelaw, but there was the famous Duchy of Normandy, legally estabilished by the treaty between king Charles III the 'Simple' and the norse Rolf(Rollone, baptized Robert).
I cannot stand Ivar but I definitely agree. I liked how they wrote him realizing he really needed to use his brain to accomplish things, rather than his brawn that he did not have like Ragnar and Floki did.
Summer season is near, you can always organize open air cinema shows, watching a TV documentary about the Vienna under Ottoman seige, when Turks reached Vienna, they already had the control over half Europe... but it's not a matter of greed or power, just posession. Still today, there are people that feel sorry to let the others live as they wish. History is very inspiring teaching us how to manage the future and how to...stay away from controling bullies, think about it guys 🎉❤🎉
I somehow can't see those two towers having enough firepower to withstand at least 30 viking ships full of archers, easilyout numbering the defensive forces.
I mean... their elevated on higher ground and the tower plus doesn't matter whether your an archer or holding the shield you wouldn't wanna peek your head out to get shot by a crossbow.
@@touristguy87how? They have to get close to it. Also do they have catapults? Torches? Nope. They don't have oil either. So Goodluck burning the towers so easily
@@touristguy87 but they are in boats? Once they land and not mobile the Frankish soldiers can easily destroy them as shown in the scene. Catapults with oil pots and fire arrows. Burning their ships. Again how would they attempt to do any of that? They don't have fire starters I don't see them packing flint or anything for making a fire or smoke.
Vikings one issue that always stood out to me exactly how many women do they think were actually vikings. Its like they think it was honestly 40-60 women to men rofl
no actually if you know how to fire in line, it can use like musket, first line fire, second line reload, third line ready, it will become a machine gun in medieval
Crossbows were only slow to reload when they became more advanced as much as plate armor did. Steel crossbows required much more time than the regular light and medium crossbows which was only using one or two hands to reload but the bigger and steel crossbows needed a mechanism to reload it. The windlass and the crank
The Vikings in the field shoulda made a line with their shields as they pushed forward. Being so scattered keeps the susceptible and unable to communicate
The true story is the viking tribe asked to the king to pass through the Seine river to plunder cities situated far away Paris. The king refused & blocked them front Paris.
What annoyed me about this scene and in general the Rollo arc is that it shows Rollo as the only Viking to accept christianity and settle there and it doesn't show all the other Vikings that chose him as their ruler and decided to settle in Normandy. Those other Vikings were crucial to stopping further Viking raids into France, and they should have been shown in this scene fighting against the Norse.
Shut up dude. Hollywood is sloppy lol
Agreed. Especially as he is shown killing fellow Vikings who stayed in Francia, which made no sense - the threat of the Vikings close to Paris was Rollos bargaining chip, if he kills all followers off, he would lose all leverage against the Frankish nobles. Liked the battle and the series nonetheless.
Half wanted to stay Pagen, the other half was a gamble he wouldn’t be stabbed in the back. With him being the Only converted Christian Viking it’s not like they can go to any of his men and replace him.
While I do agree with you and think that a battle between the Normen of Rollo who are going to fight against their ex kin in order to protect their new land against the northmen of Ragnar would have been beyond epic, i believe Rollo had no other choice on that matter. As he was making such a final step like estabilishing himself in a new land and becoming a Duke, he couldn't afford an army divided, because he'd probably have to face a rebellion and a cospiracy against his life and his new family. Moreover, the vikings left behind with him had made the huge mistake of sending their emissary to the Frank palace, where Rollo was constantly under observation (since at the start, the emperor and the franks were very far from trusting Rollo for what his brother had done to them, even though Charles had given Rollo his daughter to marry): did they really think that the Franks would have tolerated a man coming to their house and tell them they didn't accept their conditions to stay permanently and legally *in their own land* after what their king had done to Paris? Did they really think they'd not face repercussions? They signed their death warrant by sending Eirik, and worse, of their families as well.
Rollo knew all of this, and also mad for the insubordination, acted by consequences.
@@cristinademartini6653 In reality, also the Francian kings would be interested in the additional manpower of the Viking settlers for their military Defense, which would be lost by killing them all off. And Rollo (in the series) might have punished traitors more selectively, coercing the others to abandon their mutiny. But in the end, „Vikings“ wanted to set up Rollo as the antagonist to Ragnar, and the killing of the mutineers made it clear that he joined the enemy camp. So, for storytelling purposes, it makes sense.
Season 4 probed that without Rollo.... Ragnar couldn't achieve what he achieved but He never give credit to Rollo.... But Rollo achieved everything on his own
rollo achieved his marriage bc ragnar sacked paris... so not all alone...
Rollo's line became the kings of France, England and Spain. So in the end, rollo got the better of ragnar.
Like sear said a bear marrying a princess
@@austinlancaster7982 yep all tied in together
@@ibashcommunists6847 Pretty sure Sigurd had some very famous descendants, but not too really sure on the others.
Love Clive's acting in this scene. You can see the regret on his face, and the apprehension, especially when Lagartha gets close enough that he can see her and she him - they were still family once upon his time. But Paris is his home now, so he has to defend it. And he does it incredibly.
Nah!
Rollo: I could have boinked you!
I love when rolo wipes the smug look off of his “friends” faces. They finally came to understand he’s not just a brute
He was just a brute though....the way he out thinked everyone especially Ragnar is utterly ridiculous
@@moimoi2994 Rollo was the first ruler of Normandy and the most famous of any of the characters in the entire show. Why would you assume he was a brute, when the real life history heavily suggests otherwise?
@Guah00 I'm watching a serie which portraits him like a brute....why would I go search up his history?
@@moimoi2994 no fue un bruto porque los hizo bolsa en el rìo
@@moimoi2994 he got smart by his wife and french people he had to think deep
I always liked this scene. It shows that if a Norseman/ Dane could be sided on the other side, they could just use the tactics against the Norse/ Danes.
Well that, and the French crossbow was quite a thing.
@@JohnFreedman0 that one is completely unhisorical. They didn't use crossbows
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl For the siege of Paris not likely. For pretty much every fight in the middle ages yes.
Why do you make a distinction between norsemem and danes? Danes, Swedes and Norwegians were Norse..
@@runarhe5913 exatly, small differences
Not a single phone in sight. Just people enjoying the moment
Haha
1. Every third warrior is a woman
2. The main characters don't have helmets
3. Ridiculous battle tactics
4. The castle looks about as historically accurate as something from lego
Yep, post 2000 cinema
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Historically the battle was weird. 30k vikings against Paris 200 men garrison. A 150 to 1 ratio. The vikings got there and had no siege weapons that worked properly and the ones that worked were useless against the walls. They literally had no chance despite outnumbering the Parisian army by so much. They never even left the fortress to fight and the siege lasted for several months. This was the second attack on Paris. The first one had been successful.
That is true. And I think rollo was like 50 years younger than Ragnar is real life. So he started attacking years later until he became the Norman duke.
Pas mal ? C'est français.
@@svg3876 Actually I read somewhere that Rollo and Ragnar lived 200 years apart. Vikings portrayal of them is totally fictional.
@@ibrohiem You didn’t read my comment correct and it was about 50 years between them at most. Rollo was born between 835 and 870 and Ragnar was born in 909. And I will say again I am not referring to the show I am referring to what we know historically.
@@svg3876 I think you have a mistake in date regarding birth of Ragnar, he died beofre 865 so he could not be born in 909 :)
Love how the French denied melee combat to the Vikings and just wear them down using crossbows and traps.
Be l'uso delle balestre è storicamente confermato venivano usate dai popoli germanici e si di fusero durante le in vasioni barbariche addirittura da le fonti si che verranno usate dal esercito romano del quarto secolo durante e alla fine del alto medievo venivano ampiamente utilizzate non dappertutto ma venivano utilizzate
It's called using the advantage of your position and weaponry. What's the point in fighting the vikings in hand to hand combat when the can loose bolts and arrows
and the franks were heavily outnumbered especially they lost a lot of men since the vikings attacked Paris the first time
Contrary to modern stereotypes the people on the region we call France had through history some of the best fighters on the world, Gauls, Celts, Napoleon Army...all fantastic warriors, smart ones, they had to be, they lived on rich land surrounded by strong peoples.
@@cesaravegah3787 Agree I kinda wish that's how they were portrayed. But I like the idea also since the Vikings tend to equal the French in melee combat they resort to using range of their cross bows and bows to wear the Vikings down.
2:42 Have you ever noticed, that soldier is pointing his crossbow on Rollos head while reloading :D
Lol
tbh he's just racking it up before he puts on the bolt, which I assume he's gonna do away from Rollo's head.
Only it took was one mistaken shot. But sadly didn't happen
as long as the soldier points it towards the vikings once it load, i guess is all that matters
he hates rollo deep inside
This was the true power of Christianity back then, you earn your side among us regardless your origin once you are baptized, similar principle to that use in Roman law. The church did well in preserving old Greek and Roman knowledge.
Same in Ottomans, which recruited hundreds of former christians and jews as generals, admirals, governors, prime ministers, and so on. As such, one third to half of all famous ottoman generals and almost 2/3 of all ottoman admirals were former italians, greek, serbians, bosnians, albanians, dutch, and englishmen
@KZ weird, christianity aint a state bud.
Hence why Romans were so successful.
The Rats of Abraham are so proud of being rats
Victoria del orden y la civilización frente al paganismo y la barbarie
so many pirates meeting their ends. Glorious! (jokes aside, it felt good watching the vikings fail as they are mostly shown just steamrolling everything)
I loved it. They were pitiless raiders, and got what they deserved.
Amen
yeah the only time before this was when horik caused them to be surrounded by Ecbert and Aelles forces
edit: also when horik was ambushed and lost a son
Realistically, vikings rarely won battles when pitted against a well trained army of equal size.
@@philipmann5317 Y DEBIERON DEJAR QUE SE AHOGARA EL ODIOSO Y RESENTIDO ADEMAS DE SUBNORMAL DE FLOKI
It really helps to know your enemies. he never even attempted to fight melee as his men stood no chance But had a huge advantage at range except for viking Hawkeye at 5.26. Those towers couldn't have been place better.
It's also symbolic of him fighting the powers of hell to rise to his glorious (rather Christian) destiny. I mean, they are even using CROSS bows.
It’s so satisfying to watch
In the Game of Thrones books, there was a chain raised during The Battle of Blackwater that trapped much of Stannis’ ships in as the wildfire ships detonated. We never got to see the chain in the show, but this is a close similarity.
"vuelta de obligados", in Argentina to French and British ships
The byzantines had a massive chain in constantinopolis hindering ottoman ships from entering the golden horn where the walls weren't as protected as the western Theodosian Walls. Anyways, the ottoman madlads circumvented this by, and I shit you not, carrying the ships over land past the chain.
@@mertinibus crusaders did that in the first Crusade, vikings did that too to get AROUND Paris (they never took it) Greeks & Romans it was pretty common throughout history until the ships got too big
@@mertinibus Byzantines even used the chain on Viking ships, they sank a Viking ship with it.
Or the navel battle before the chain. Or the lannister charge with tryion, going berserk or battle fury )
That's the silliest looking fort I've ever seen.
Siller than the one in Holy Grail?
Its only a model.
Roman Empire collapse hit hard
Well it is
the French .
But it proved to be very effective. That's what matters.
Finally, a realistic fight. Danes had absolutely no shot of taking a powerful city like Paris. They weren't organized enough and we're technologically challenged. Sure, they were big strong brave warriors but this is the 10th century. Get with the times.
Yes we danish were better at raiding easy tagets and bye bye back to scandinavia og drink and eat the spoil away 😄
Dumbest battle ever why don't they all go ashore UN fight these 2 baby towers with the few troops
Haha. Modern Danes don't like this. Stop taking it so personally. It's the truth. Remember, this was well before the great Heathen Army, which was formidable.0
What are you talking about? Paris paid a 60,000 pound silver ransom in return for the Vikings not continuing to raid their lands😂
Rollo casually being one of the GOATs of the early middle ages.
The one thing i loved about Rollos Frankia arc is that fir the firstctimr we see he is actually alot smarter then you'd think.
Constructing a perfect counter and trap with the forts and the chain.
As well as,backup boats should they break free. Or just to finish them off.
He may not be as intelligent as Ragnar, but there sure is a bit of Odin within.
Rollo was not rewarded or recognized by Ragnar who often took his loyalty for granted. Ragnar believed that his only brother in life would follow him. However he did not realize that Rollo was also very human and had harbored jealousy towards his elder brother's dominance in his life.
The fact that Bjorn was his son meant that Rollo also desired over Ragnar's first wife. I think this the indicative reason for the turning which Ragnar never paid attention. Ragnar by any sense was a wise man, a man that was fixated on his greatness and legacy. He spent little time thinking about politics, even internal political affairs.
So what if he had brought the great empire of the Eastern Franks to their knees with the first sack of Paris. So what if he had ravaged Northumbria and Mercia, pillaging at will? His downfall would be the betrayal of his own brother Rollo at the second siege of Paris.
Instead of furthering Viking expansion into Francia, he gave the best gift he could to Francia by giving away Rollo who would defend the northern province of Normandy from further Viking incursions.
The only takeaway for Ragnar isn't the wealth or the fame, but rather that his people, the Vikings would populate Normandy and assimilate into their culture and language and religion. They would also do so in Anglo Saxon England ultimately and that is his lasting legacy, the marriage of his ethnic people with the rest of the world.
Well written. Thank you. I am of saxon kin.
Damn lion king was a good movie
Rollo was a piece of shit - who stabbed his brother in his back more than once.
It is also the mentality of that period. During the early middle ages the Merovingians and Carolingians had to reward their nobles with land to keep them checked and assure their loyalty. Ragnarr, as king, had the obligation to give his brother a piece of land.
Everyone saw rollo as a traitor here but he had Every right to protect his home here from ragnar
What right this is not his home
@@alisongreat3756 Ragnar treated him like shit, he found a new home.
@@alisongreat3756 His new home, where he's part of nobility and not ragnar sidekick
@@Fermifirehe betrayed Ragnar 3 times, he was shit
@@Stegosaurus_a_freak_of_nature three times? Which was the third? For what I've watched, only two: the first in s1 and then this one.
Poor girl got killed at 7:25 then again at 9:00
That's really unlucky :/
Im imagining her barely climbing back up only to get shot down again
That is truly a bad day.
😂
The mighty, viking soldiers called upon their plot armor to help them win the battle, but it denied their request.
What plot armor are you talking about? What did you favor the French in this case? I'm watching the series again and I think this battle is ridiculous. The only thing the Vikings had to do was to dock the ships on the left bank and try to destroy the tower and the chain. They were much superior in number.
Boats rolling over due to a chain.
As realistic as a Narnia battle. 🤣
Show how much you know about history,chains indeed could tip a boat and were used in small ricer ways to stop raids on smaller villages, focking the boats as you say would have taken an incredible amount of unity only made possible by communication.
That would be hard when 10 boats back your only command is to row forward, you try to Dock you will get one or two boats and cause chaos with the rest.
The tactics were sound and that's why river forts were made like this as they were a perfect counter.
@@kdeathwing Chains were used since the times of ancient Greeks. Their purpose is to block vessels, not to flip them over. Viking drakkars had shallow, keels and almost flat bottoms. Hence low center of gavity and low center of bouyancy; a condition which made them extremely stable. Even at full speed (unlikely while approaching ashore) they would rather have "jumped" over the chain than roll over. Simple physics.
@@danrooc Have you ever heard about Golden Horn and The Great Chain of Constantinople ?
i still think Vikings shouldve stuck with england. frankia at that time was quite powerful and they were too reliant on quick attacks from the water. not a good choice against fortified cities.
they were richer tho
@@redsun5929 France was richer than England all the way up to the 18th century
That's what i meant
@@redsun5929 means nothing if you cannot capture that wealth for yourself.
They got here by trying tho.Otherwise they would've never raid England
Is difficult to approve what Rollo did betraying his own family but also understandable. He’s choices were living under his brother shadow or finally achieving greatnesses fighting for the opposite side. We have to put ourselves in his shoes to understand the situation
They came twice to Paris.We were ready for them on their second"visit" and we whooped their asses.Allez La France!
καλό !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah but they took over Normandy, and out Fraked the Franks
yall get cooked so often chill out 😂
One of my favorite Bruce Lee quotes is:
The first time a person experiences something it's essentially invisible.
Think Anthony Pettis' Showtime Kick of Bendo over 10 years ago...people have been using the cage as a catapult ever since and fighters are more aware of that particular danger...Benson, he had no idea what was coming... Not being KO'd by that kick was a W in an of itself.
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Now I'm thinking about Robert Redford in The Last Castle and how he got Tony Soprano ( RIP ) to show his hand before it was absolutely necessary.
After you've seen something no matter how devastating it may be, you can then create a formidable gameplan if the same set of circumstances arises in the future, as this clip clearly demonstrates.
Great battles scenes ever produced in the world.. It looks like watching the real battle. They've showed vividly Rangar's confidence breaking gradually. Great performance by everyone
When I think of the Vikiings I always add in the Romans, the Rus, the Mongols, the Nazis, the Redcoats, and the Americans. All were/are vicious, barbaric cultures that murdered for fun.
@@Demun1649 Most in your list seem incorrect.
@@steviebro0538 Again, the unlikely ignorant ones are wheeled out. No contesting the list, nor those mentioned. No opinion on why certain groups should not be included. Just a simplistic, low intelligence, low IQ offering, that does no credit to any opposing ideas at all.
@@Demun1649are u dumb or what? ROME IS CIVILIZATION
@@Demun1649 with this mindset you wouldn't have lasted a day in the ancient world 😂
Somehow I really enjoyed Rollo betrayal and the sound defeat of the Vikings here
E sweet me eeh
I enjoyed watching them destroy the Vikings as they literally destroy multiple army’s over and over
this battle in paris was simply the best i loved it from start to finish 🤗 even more seeing rollo win 💕
traitor
@@onursahin8934 he achieved more than anyone.. Rollo💥
After seen All seasons of vikings came here to watch this masterpiece nostalgic 🖤
Paridians speaking English...lol and lol
In my mind I imagine this scene written by John Cleese and Monty Python performing it...
Good..ol....days.
2:35 One of the most satisfying moments in the entire series. Loved seeing Rollo wreck Lagertha Warrior Princess's little raiding party.
@KZ it’s not like the Vikings are shown to be good people in the show. Even if they are the main characters you don’t have to root for them
Honestly I don't know what they were going to accomplish with so few warriors.
At best they could distract the defenders, or possibly lower/ break the chain which would've allowed the Vikings to pass.
But the Franks would be expecting that.
Well to be fair, there was a lot of men with her, lmao.
Yet again, the camera man never dies..
0:46 Why in the world would you approach the enemy out in the open when there are tree lines on both sides of you?
Crossbows deadly weapon but honestly they should've hired some archers too. Provide more arrows and bolts down range to keep them pinned.
Along side that wasn't a bad idea attacking from both sides with crossbows and the towers.
Tho they should've done more than just two towers and such.
Glad the vikings suffered such a defeat cuz they were too strong really.
I mean Rollo was a Viking. Good advantage to have. To know your enemy. Especially when the enemy is your own clan and kin. And brother. Combined with what the French had. Crossbows were pretty new at that time. Plus Rollo brought some new arsenal and tricks. And knew Viking weaknesses.
One of the very few that were actually good at repelling viking attacks. With the help of other Vikings. Christian kings making deals with Vikings was actually pretty common.
@@yantzeburger5062 I mean indeed it is pretty common to hire people that are enemies to the ones your fighting especially if they know their strategies and such.
Plus that it would've been nicer if the towers had more cover and arrow slits to shoot through especially when the vikings had bows of their own. And that I feel they should've had another set of towers further down incase the vikings had did made it through somehow. Along side reserve troops in the woods while the vikings were all stuck in the waters more crossbows would've rain at them and troops ready to prevent them from landing but seeing that Lagatha had flanked around to try sneaking. Yeah I kinda doubt they would've done so I retract my opinion on having troops waiting in the woods to ambush the vikings. I think what would've favored Frankia is building a bridge between the two forts/towers and such. A blockade but ships would have to come through an metal gate which probably would've taken time yes.
Crossbows pierce armor and only take 2 weeks training to become an expert at it.
To stop Vikings sailing up the river the French eventually built stone bridges. These could easily be blocked or drop stones upon unfriendly ships.
For this movie battle the French could’ve done more. More archers and catapults, more stakes in the bank. Raise the chain after several ships have passed, cutting the fleet into 2 groups, ideally isolating the leaders.
But if their position had appeared too strong, Ragnar would’ve looked for another way. The trick of defensive engineering is feigning weak spots to lure an enemy into kill zones. Ivar does this at York, supposedly forgetting to defend a section of wall then ambushing the saxons that climbed in.
For Francia !!
You were at Somme
I loved how badly the Vikings got fucked trying to take Paris.
The Franks after taking Rollo to their side: "CHECKMATE, Arseholes!"😂
Me tooo
Amazing
2:52 Those two the best
Awesome scene.👌
OUR LADY OF PARIS
THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY
MATER DEI
Lol the magic catapults with no visible propulsion method
Little historical foot note : the main Frank army was already destroyed in the previous encounter.
Lol this show has nothing to do with history
No the Franks mainly won the pitched battles in real history
3:44 she dies multiple times in the whole series
Who agrees that lagretha is nothing more than a witch
In the first and second season she wasn't so bad; but in the third and fourth: well, I only say that the frank soldier's shield on her face was very satisfying to me. And honestly, i hope in vikings valhall Freydis shall have a similar moment too.
Ragnar under estimated france.. but rollo prepared them well
Next to Bret Hart, Rollo was the excellence of execution.
Best scene vikings deserved this in reality
Viking women never go to war please respect history
Woke ideology.
Exactly like the rest ✌
@@manininikolas9310and Vikings were not that buff and brave
As french, in reality the Viking were not so savage.
The king of France gave to them a province : Normandy, for people of the North.
There are still people with a name which come from Vicking as some village and cities as " La Hague."
There were very courageous and much more cultural as 9:21 we think
Norvegian, Swedish, Dane. are now welcome.
Просто 300 спартанцев какие-то. Удержали реку от целой флотилии да ещё и от сухопутного отряда.
Well that was ambitious... attacking the French
ok maxime
In the future we will go back like this
The first event was a quick and successful siege of Paris that occurred inn 845 AD, led by Ragnar Lothbrok. The Vikings breached the city walls, raided and sacked Paris, and were subsequently paid off with around 2,570 kilos (5,665 pounds) of silver and gold.
If you’re smart remember
There’s always someone smarter
How do I find out these best fight scenes in Vikings? I base on Ragnar's beard😅😅😅
Emmm the crazy thing is my uncle *ray was a behind the scenes person here and it is for his job like so he builds stuff and for this show he built a good bit of the castle apparently and
You may or may not know that the wood that was on like the castle well some of it is out my BACKYARD! On the fence so my uncle put it there for us and it’s CRAZY TO THINK A PART OF A FREAKING TV SHOW IS IM MY BACKYARD and the wood was used for a new fence!
4:35 They have a forrest, reaching near to the fortress which would give them excellent cover, but instead they attack from the open field?! How stupid is that? And why are the french using LARP-Crossbows with 10 pounds of drawweight. I mean, come on. Look how easy they pull the string with two fingers.
They couldnt march through the forest in a formation meaning the franks could easily shoot them all down before they can form a shieldwall
5:40 why tf is spider man in this show
Why not ? Even Wwe superstar edge in this show. I wish I was in there. I wanna die as viking warrior.
@@perttilaamanen44 😂
After Ivar Rollo is my favorite character of the series
No machine gun no close air support no ELINT no snipers no JDAM no AK.
Jist pepole enjoying the moment
Those crossbows were scary
loosing at 25 v 1 is crazy
I find it hard to believe that Ivar manage to get his men inside Paris you may hate him but he has far better strategies than Ragnar and floki did to win battles or to conquer territories
I fear you are referring to York, in England: this is Paris in the reign of the Western Franks, and for what I know, Ivar was never there, and Paris was never in history a viking city and in France there was no Danelaw, but there was the famous Duchy of Normandy, legally estabilished by the treaty between king Charles III the 'Simple' and the norse Rolf(Rollone, baptized Robert).
What episode
I cannot stand Ivar but I definitely agree. I liked how they wrote him realizing he really needed to use his brain to accomplish things, rather than his brawn that he did not have like Ragnar and Floki did.
Summer season is near, you can always organize open air cinema shows, watching a TV documentary about the Vienna under Ottoman seige, when Turks reached Vienna, they already had the control over half Europe... but it's not a matter of greed or power, just posession. Still today, there are people that feel sorry to let the others live as they wish. History is very inspiring teaching us how to manage the future and how to...stay away from controling bullies, think about it guys 🎉❤🎉
I somehow can't see those two towers having enough firepower to withstand at least 30 viking ships full of archers, easilyout numbering the defensive forces.
I mean... their elevated on higher ground and the tower plus doesn't matter whether your an archer or holding the shield you wouldn't wanna peek your head out to get shot by a crossbow.
@@koreancowboy42 the Vikings could have just burned the towers
@@touristguy87how? They have to get close to it. Also do they have catapults? Torches? Nope.
They don't have oil either. So Goodluck burning the towers so easily
@@koreancowboy42 they just have to burn them out...start a fire and let the smoke do the job
@@touristguy87 but they are in boats? Once they land and not mobile the Frankish soldiers can easily destroy them as shown in the scene. Catapults with oil pots and fire arrows. Burning their ships. Again how would they attempt to do any of that? They don't have fire starters I don't see them packing flint or anything for making a fire or smoke.
Vikings one issue that always stood out to me exactly how many women do they think were actually vikings. Its like they think it was honestly 40-60 women to men rofl
There werent many viking wonen warriors, most of the nordic women were like other women at the time
Try and imagen how much those chains would have cost!
And the work hours needed to make them by hand... from the ore!
Worth every silver coin.
Rollo is litteraly the Duc of my country the Normandy
*De ta région la Normandie
Long live Rollo
"You hurt me brother, you hurt me"
- Ragnar to Rollo
2:07 that shoulder barge 🤣
In the first attack, France was not prepared
Lovely, very lovely indeed.
I thought that crossbows were slow to reload.
no actually if you know how to fire in line, it can use like musket, first line fire, second line reload, third line ready, it will become a machine gun in medieval
beside it took 2 or 3 month for a man to learn about the bow, meanwhile with crossbow it just need a day or an hours
@@duypham-nt1mp Some of those bowmen would spend years training, or all of their lives like the English longbowmen.
Crossbows were only slow to reload when they became more advanced as much as plate armor did.
Steel crossbows required much more time than the regular light and medium crossbows which was only using one or two hands to reload but the bigger and steel crossbows needed a mechanism to reload it. The windlass and the crank
The Vikings are not looking like Vikings. They are looking like modern youth costumed as ancient warriors 😮
Brilliant action
this battle is the raise of Capetien
rollo 🥰🥰❤️
I just watched this in history class
Realistically, viking armies rarely won major conflicts when facing well-trained armies of their equal.
Lovely
Sowelu ⚔🍻
Big muscles little brains
They shoulda shot flame arrows and catapult debris instead to burn the ships and distract them to slow them. The chain was way too early.
And something like alcohol thrown in the fields and arrows shot to slow the ones in the field. That’s what all the defense did wrong.
The Vikings in the field shoulda made a line with their shields as they pushed forward. Being so scattered keeps the susceptible and unable to communicate
Everything was done so late on both sides.
With the ships slowed and the ones in the field distracted by fire they coulda flanked them with troops with armor and swords
The true story is the viking tribe asked to the king to pass through the Seine river to plunder cities situated far away Paris. The king refused & blocked them front Paris.
Rollo, Duque da Normandia.
Vikings with eyeliners lol
Why is there crossbows. They werent invented untill 1060 and this is way before that time
Where is full movie? Very good movie battle
Damn, those crossbows have great range and accuracy?
YYYEAAAAHHHH!!!..
Mmmm bloody good range on them crossbows, bloody far......
I like it Vikings history
Nowadays tourists are welcome :)
Nice Movie
ngl that was some "yeah well what if i just picked up ur boat, huh? whatcha gonna do then?" ass stuff at the end
Completely ruined the battle scenes by trying to show females to be physically the equal of a male in a fight
Dam Vikings got out matches heavy