The phi is pronounced fee. This is my 33rd year of dg and I've putted with everything. Besides ones personal opinion on what grippy or slick plastic they like, the chains prefer soft or base plastic by EV7. I've been putting with the over stable Penrose base plastic and have never experienced such grip in the chains, meaning it stays in the chains and doesn't fall to basket a lot of the time, more than any other putter plastic out there, Gateway, DD classic soft, Westside soft Swans, dga blowfly etc. The straight flight of the Mobius is beautiful and between the grip and flight its the best putter I've ever had, 100 footers were much easier again and this was my first day with the Mobius. The only thing I'd want more is a lower profile to help with friction in head winds. The under stable flight will float more with any under stable putter or extremely beat in putter. I place my finger right in front, on the edge, so I am not limited and can putt with anything comfortably. The best lob or (push) putters have great spin, so I'd suggest learning the spin putt, firing straight at the basket and noticing how little the first finger really matters, you can completely remove it actually, it's only about a centimeter you'd have to move it up if you chose to. After some time with spin putting, go back to the (push) putt and you will notice you have much more authority and control and not limited with distance. The Mobius shape reminds me of the Dagger and Ricky did quite well with that, lots of spin and authority with that (push) putt of his. I put quotations around (push) because the name Lob was changed by David Feldberg and folks around 2004ish to (push). We now call the putts push or spin. All putts have spin, so we shouldn't use that term. The (spin) putt is a push, you push the disc away using your triceps with an extension of the arm, just like a push up. What's called a push is actually a Lob or Lift putt, you'd be lifting the disc from low to high. Both have pretty much the same amount of spin, when the pros do it anyway. Sorry for the rambling
Never apologize for rambling about disc golf! I LOVE IT. I could sit and shoot the sh*t on DG all day! I know what your saying here. I love the FEEL of the OG SOFT plastic from EV-7. However the only putter from them that is semi comfortable in my hand is the PHI. I did like the penrose for throwing though, but I dont like beads on my putters. I do no bead or micro bead. I am currently in process of changing my putt. It's a process, have to retrain my brain. I watched a stokley fix your putting vid that changed the way I thought about putting. So I'm in process of doing that. But how a putter feels in your hand is quite important.
The mobius is hands down the best putter I have ever used. I own the Phi and I am not into that putter. The OG base Mobius is straight as shit for me and I was banging chains with it at Swenson Park where they just held the OTB Open. There were 20mph plus winds when we played that course and it cut right through the wind. My buddy tried it out and immediately bought one. The weird thing about this putter is its rating. It isn't accurate. It doesn't anny that well. Other than that it is the most consistent c1 putter I have ever used.
Nice flight review. You gotta work on your putting before doing some comparaison though haha. The way you putt is way too hard to be consistent at all lol
@@inthebagdiscgolf5753 pop up your putters 2 feet infront of you but super super high up and catch them back. Like the highest possible and flat enough that you could make it spin on your fingers like a basketball. Now go to a basket, pop them up and let the glide of the putter make it go in. You'll quickly get the pop vs push ratio but make sure there's always more pop than push. Oh and it will feel super weird at first because you're so used to hyzer putts, it's going to feel like your putting with your palm up almost but if you watch yourself on video you'll see that you won't actually be putting with your palm up lol.
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The phi is pronounced fee. This is my 33rd year of dg and I've putted with everything. Besides ones personal opinion on what grippy or slick plastic they like, the chains prefer soft or base plastic by EV7. I've been putting with the over stable Penrose base plastic and have never experienced such grip in the chains, meaning it stays in the chains and doesn't fall to basket a lot of the time, more than any other putter plastic out there, Gateway, DD classic soft, Westside soft Swans, dga blowfly etc. The straight flight of the Mobius is beautiful and between the grip and flight its the best putter I've ever had, 100 footers were much easier again and this was my first day with the Mobius. The only thing I'd want more is a lower profile to help with friction in head winds. The under stable flight will float more with any under stable putter or extremely beat in putter. I place my finger right in front, on the edge, so I am not limited and can putt with anything comfortably. The best lob or (push) putters have great spin, so I'd suggest learning the spin putt, firing straight at the basket and noticing how little the first finger really matters, you can completely remove it actually, it's only about a centimeter you'd have to move it up if you chose to. After some time with spin putting, go back to the (push) putt and you will notice you have much more authority and control and not limited with distance. The Mobius shape reminds me of the Dagger and Ricky did quite well with that, lots of spin and authority with that (push) putt of his. I put quotations around (push) because the name Lob was changed by David Feldberg and folks around 2004ish to (push). We now call the putts push or spin. All putts have spin, so we shouldn't use that term. The (spin) putt is a push, you push the disc away using your triceps with an extension of the arm, just like a push up. What's called a push is actually a Lob or Lift putt, you'd be lifting the disc from low to high. Both have pretty much the same amount of spin, when the pros do it anyway. Sorry for the rambling
Never apologize for rambling about disc golf! I LOVE IT. I could sit and shoot the sh*t on DG all day! I know what your saying here. I love the FEEL of the OG SOFT plastic from EV-7. However the only putter from them that is semi comfortable in my hand is the PHI. I did like the penrose for throwing though, but I dont like beads on my putters. I do no bead or micro bead. I am currently in process of changing my putt. It's a process, have to retrain my brain. I watched a stokley fix your putting vid that changed the way I thought about putting. So I'm in process of doing that. But how a putter feels in your hand is quite important.
The mobius is hands down the best putter I have ever used. I own the Phi and I am not into that putter. The OG base Mobius is straight as shit for me and I was banging chains with it at Swenson Park where they just held the OTB Open. There were 20mph plus winds when we played that course and it cut right through the wind. My buddy tried it out and immediately bought one. The weird thing about this putter is its rating. It isn't accurate. It doesn't anny that well. Other than that it is the most consistent c1 putter I have ever used.
Nice flight review. You gotta work on your putting before doing some comparaison though haha. The way you putt is way too hard to be consistent at all lol
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Funny thing is, I'm actually in transition to different putting style because I feel like I'm inconsistent right now.
@@inthebagdiscgolf5753 pop up your putters 2 feet infront of you but super super high up and catch them back. Like the highest possible and flat enough that you could make it spin on your fingers like a basketball. Now go to a basket, pop them up and let the glide of the putter make it go in. You'll quickly get the pop vs push ratio but make sure there's always more pop than push. Oh and it will feel super weird at first because you're so used to hyzer putts, it's going to feel like your putting with your palm up almost but if you watch yourself on video you'll see that you won't actually be putting with your palm up lol.
@@HuckingPlastic I'm going to try it