These long videos take forever to make, so give us a kiss... I mean, a like, a like, please, no kisses. Similar video on the Battle of Greece: ruclips.net/video/_jDBQijICTo/видео.html
Thanks Kings & Generals. Hope you can make videos on the Wars Between Kingdom of Thailand(Ayutthaya), vs. Kingdom of Burma. Or the Kingdom of Thailand (Ayutthaya) vs Kingdom of Vietnam.
Kiitos! You have put it all very well together in this documentary. As a patriotic Finn I want to thank you and show my support for the great work you have done. We will never forget the Winter War and our heroes who fought for our freedom and independence.
Мой прадед герой. Сражался в Советско-Финской войне 1939-1940. Вернулся живой, дожил до 1982. Я живу в Санкт-Петербурге, у меня остались некоторые вещи от прадеда, старая бритва и шинель.
I live in Pitkyaranta, this is the town where the fighting took place. Outside the town we have a monument called the "cross of sorrow". It symbolizes 2 mothers, Finnish and Russian, who hold each other in memory of the lost sons of Finland and Russia
Unfortunately, if memory serves right, Nazis actually cited the winter wars as a reason for breaking the NAP with Russia and are often considered to have been allied with the Finish. They went so far as to even nominate three jews from the Finish army for the Iron Cross. ( declined by the Finish, of course ) However, anyone who claims the finish were Nazis or even all of the German army were made of Nazis soldiers doesn't know what Nazi stands for. Nazi was a name given to the members of the National socialist Party. A lot of the soldiers weren't party members and similarly, there were commanders who did not adhere to the party membership, politics, or even ideology, in fact, it is debated if even Erwin Rommel was a member of the Nazi party or not.
Was a soviet, not a soviet. Was a nazi, was not a nazi. Reminiscing about such past things helps no-one. Only thing they might do is relight the candles of hate. Some things are best forgotten... I Have met many Russians in my still rather short lifetime 32 years. All very nice lads. I consider them brothers of North.
@ Алексей П I’m not excusing the slaughter in Vyborg or the really bad treatment of Slavs during the war. However, ”Western propaganda” doesn’t talk about how of the 10-30 million people Stalin murdered, the Finno-Ugric people were hit probably the hardest. 25,000 Ingrian Finns were killed, and their population was small in the first place. Stalin liquidated at least 80% of the Finns living on the Kuola peninsular by execution in the forest or in gulags. He even killed the Finnish communists that fles Finland after the civil war. Also what do you mean by agression in 1941? Finland punished the Soviet Union for trying to conquer it unprovoked and took more land. Was it wrong that the USSR conquered half of Germany (and would have taken all of it if the Western powers didn’t come)? Germany didn’t even have a substantial Russian minority, Eastern Karelia had many Finns and was inhabited by them long before the Slavs conquered the area in the middle ages. Finland refused to even cut the Murmansk railway or go into Leningrad, so this agression sounds funny. Finland also didn’t actively participate in the siege of Leningrad; the reason why the Finns were North and North-East of Leningrad was because they had built their greater Finland for strategic and political reasons. If Finland hadn’t done this, they would probably not have stopped the Vyborg-Petrograd offensive in time on the VKT-line in the summer if 1944, leading to Finland’s destruction. Remember it was Stalin who started the conflict with Finland while cooperating with Nazi Germany and it was him who ordered the civilians to stay in Leningrad, refusing surrender. I won’t even talk about Soviet war crimes. Neither side is innocent, both commited war crimes. But there’s no question which one was the agressor.
As a Pole, the fact that Finland stood up and fought such a brutal aggressor will stay on every Polish heart forever as a great example of how Finland preserved independence. Of course, Simo Hayha, Manneheim, etc. these heroes' stories are very popular in Poland.
@@cally2984 there is ä and ö in every keyboard, not as a one button but as two upper dot with alt+shift+that button (not exact, dont remember, with a smartphone know :) ) and after that press 'a' or 'o', and ä or ö will appear. Same with German 'ü'. Lack of understanding and learning the use of keyboard is beyond me, I've known that told above since 2001. And our households internet connection was up 2003.. lazyness of people.. gg.
I stopped the video and scrolled down to look for this comment. Also, the whole part with russian tanks stop working and soviet soldiers dying of cold really feels like the best reverse uno card against the soviets. The finn's out sovieted the soviets.
Soviet casualties due to revolution, war, influenza, starvation, and imprisonment in the first half of the 20th century, were greater than the entire populations of Finland, Norway, and Sweden combined. Incredible loss of life that's difficult to comprehend. If you were a Russian born in 1900 and you were fortunate enough to live till retirement, you would have been witness to almost every type of catastrophic event known to mankind.
Russia lost around 12,000,000 soldiers killed and 18,000,000 civilians murdered (mostly non Jews, the worst unrecognized Genocide since the Mongol and Imperial Japanese invasions of China) upon the Eastern Front in less than 4 years and so where are their Holocaust Museums? The squeaky wheels get oiled with sympathy and money, the silent wheels dont, in denial.
@@michaelbruns449 Propaganda my g Thats how it works... They talk about a particular incident enough because it serves them a specific purpose and ignore other incidents + they never mention the war crimes that they commited
For a Ukrainian such as myself, I find Finns' struggle in the Winter War truly inspiring. Their courage and fortitude to fight against such an overwhelming foe will always be a role model for the Ukrainian people.
Take care, We dont know the outcome of the war, but one thing is clear= Russia is NOT winning. The forrests are speaking ukrainian, and no Russian is safe.
Russian ancestry including ethnic substrat of Mari Merya Finn Karelians and other fenn SO FINLAND is PART OF RUSSIAN MIR , I'm russian yhaplogroup I1a nordic, but have uralic and slavic ancestry also When time comes we will retake our lands in Finland
For being a Finn myself, I find the Ukrainians skills and motivation while fighting against the Russian aggressions a great example not for us but the whole world. We will stay beside you. Slava Ukraini!
President Kyösti Kallio was already sick during the war and died from heart attack in December 1940 on his last day as president. The stress took its toll.
President Kyösti Kallio on hearing soviet attacked across the border "Gunpowder them" "Ruutia vaan" (Not direct translation as it is impossible in english) Edit: he actully said "Kruutia vaan" which is the same but with more "countryside" dialect, and he actuslly said that as response when the President of the Republic Kallio and Commander in chief Field marshal Mannerheim entered the Presidental castle and adjutant major asked how Finland would respond to the challenge. Challenge being the full scale invasion that started that morning.
Finns, people of Czechia are proud to receive you in NATO this time. You taught us a lesson about how to fight for independence, we are so grateful. Long live Finland, may you never lose your country to the eastern hordes.
My grandfather was there, he didn't speak much of war, he told russian soldier was face torn apart from his suomi konepistooli burst. Never seen my grandfather crying before that, it was his testimony.
Soviet Union:" We will conquer you in the winter" Finland:" You think winter is your ally? You merely adopted it, I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the summer until I was only a man. By that time it was nothing to me but blinding. The snows betray you because they belong to me."
@@Cortesevasive not really if they had just signed the Soviet treaty they would have just given up their strategically defensive positions without a fight and would be defenseless if the Soviets ever tried geting anything more out of them( look at what happened to the Baltic states). The way the Finns fought showed to the Soviets that anexing Finland wasn't worth the cost and effort. So while the Finns still lost the territory the Soviets wanted the war helped secure their independence.
@@arijao92 True. In the narrative and on the map darkness does not become apparent. On the latitude of Suomussalmi in mid-winter there is four hours of daylight, four hours of twilight and 16 hours of total darkness.
@@Cortesevasive If Finland had lost the war, then Soviets troops would've had a victory parade in Helsinki as planned. There would also have been the Kuusinen puppet government sitting in Helsinki.
As a south african with boer warriors as some of my ancestors, respect to turkey's warriors during their war of independence in 1922 , what a brave fight !
Dear king and generals, i would just like to say thank you. I have loved history for so long and you guys have made that possible. You probably won't see this but thanks. I have watched you guys for mabey 3 years, That is almost as long as I have watched RUclips many thanks. From Finn . Edit: soz i probably seem like i am begging for likes. But like genuinely Cheers
I heared about youtube first back in 2012 and started to watch videos back in 2014 with starting with some minecraft videos I enjoying to watch as 10 year old and I found this channel back in 2019 and been enjoying watching his content once in while.
At the end during the last stand for Viipuri all I was thinking was that those men where the reason that Finland is still a prosperous nation and the reason Finnish is still spoken in Finland. You don't know how grateful I am because there is an honest chance that I wouldn't have even been born if it weren't for the lives sacrificed at the front line.
@@myamericans1112 what did you just say? I'm genuinely confused, you start talking about how Canada apparently saved Finland's economy then you start talking about how some Canadian Finn's (sorry I mean CANADIAN) decided to fight for Finland and that somehow that's a bad thing. I mean that's what I picked up from that jumble of words because that sure wasn't the best built sentence I've ever seen. I just don't understand the "I am sorry" part or the consistent full caps Canada or the point of sending that, like I'm talking about how I am grateful for what those soldiers did and you're talking about how Nokia is Canadian and that it's a bad thing that Canadian Finn's fought for Finland. Like what's up with your tone man?
@@myamericans1112 Wtf are you even saying? why are you telling me this? I'm so confused man. Like please learn how to write. It's literally just meaningless words stuck together with the "I support the Russians next time." put at the end. I mean ok. Cool, but when?
I was given a book called "Ski Patrol" when I was a kid. It was about Winter War and the fighters who fought on skis against the Russian invasion. I loved that book and it was the reason why I was drawn to this documentary. Quite enjoyable. By the way, I got that book in 1965 and it's still on my bookshelf.
@@Saunakiuas06 That's when I got the book. It was already used at the time. If interested, I still have it and I'll get the publishing date. Let me know.
Finland and Finns are amazing. Bravely fighting for their independence and liberty against a huge, more powerful state 🔥 and becoming a happy, successful and rich country. I am a Ukrainian and I hope that we will be able to do the same for ourselves 💪🏻 Finns are a great inspiration for us❤️ Also it's kinda ironic that Soviets said that they are not Finns' enemies, they just want to free them from capitalists and the government that only harms their people. Kinda reminds their justification of russian-Ukrainian war.
The same to you fellow ukrainians. You are the second country to beat sh!t out of your country! Stay strong! Heroyam slava! Heroes will be never forgotten!
I think Putin read Stalin's diaries and mistook them as war tactic manuals. I wish lots of strength and victories to you Ukraine! Regards from Finland.
Finnish army fought like no other. Truly amazing video of survival battle of the Finnish nation. That Suomussalmi/Raate battle was brilliantly portrayed.
The bravery and heroism of the stalwart Finns can’t be denied. Fighting against overwhelmingly odds to defend their country should be enough to earn the respect of anyone. I’ve bee intrigued by the Winter War recently and I enjoyed this video on the subject.
So many Task Forces... "Sergenant, what we have here?" "Sir, three men, two mooses, one bear, dozen squirrel's and one big rock." "Well sergenant, that's just all what it is neede for Task Force Nönnönnöö.
@@samirantanen707 i think the main reason why they keep calling it a task force even in small numbers is because its made up of mixed outfits like policemen, marines, airmen, navy, coastguard and army which they hastily group together to make a combat unit.
Simo is the man. He popped a few hundred people, got shot in the face, survived, and then lived until the age of 96 dying in 2002. Damn. That's impressive.
@@jbdbean242 the man lived the same lifestyle before and after the war, he didn’t gain much more than any other guy who fought for Finland, so why would he lie about it
@@DoctorJ_TTV they were allowed to exist. Just like Japan. But There was a literal line through the middle of it for almost half a century with different governments controlling it
This is complete nonsense. Visit the Senate Square in Helsinki and have a look at the monument in the centre of the square. You may think about why it there. Also you should learn a little about Finnish history if you claim your root in Finland.
Some people here say that the Soviets weren't equipped well enough. Neither were the Finns, a lot of men were called to service in such haste they went to the front in their civilian gear. Some even with their own hunting riffles. "Model Cajander" was an ironic name for the outfit and it consisted of an army badge men put on their winter hats and a utility army belt.
An underdeveloped country whose economy is solely based on raw materials and fossil fuels + a desperate need to be feared and respected superpower + a culture that has no respect for human life whatsoever = a recipe for disaster.
@@jeremiahlynds3465 I'm glad you mentioned Peter the Great. Many look back to the Soviets but I think you have to look at Peter the Great's reign to understand modern Russia. Peter did many things that later rulers would mimick.
@@fartknockerR17 good thing the intentional extermination of Ukrainians wasn't what I was referring to... Also if Russia's action are what NATO are indeed adversarial against, so be it.
@@Cortesevasive Finland at this point was fighting almost alone against the biggest military power in the world who had made a pact with Germany that seemed like an alliance. That alliance made Germany stop help from certain parts of Europe from reaching Finland in time. Also Allies were backing Finland in it's fight against the Soviets and told Finland that help will come and that made finnish leaders continue war longer, but when finns realised that help is not coming and Allies are trying to get Finland continue their war for the benefit of the Allies who could use Winter war as an excuse to invade Norway and Sweden and stop iron deliveries from there to Germany.
@@oskariharmanen3412 of you read Churchills memoars it stands clear that the idea of sending say 40-50 000 soldiers to Finland was just an excuse, the real target had been to take control over sw iron mines. But they had not enough troops with winter training and eguipment. Look at French Legion at Narvik: some of the alp rangers had new skis but forgotten the ski bindnings...
@@Cortesevasive I hate those who commit holocaust as much as those who commit holodomor😉 Luckily Finnish people defended themselves against such a tyranny.
@@Cortesevasive Also I never heard any crime commited by Finns against jews or homosexuals or Romanis which makes German-Finn alliance cyclical not ideologic.
True, but they also had had help with a difficult terrain. The dutch tried for 5 days but would soon run out of ammo, and surrendered due to terror bombing. Though russia bombed Helsinki for instance, it was not the same as for instance Warsaw, Rotterdam or London. But true, the Finnish are a gritty people with no true love for mother Russia!
Hopefully America can resist the communists. The current "resistance" is actually the established power... so, the only thing theyre resisting is our continued freedom.
@@Cortesevasive And accomplish what? Most of the people left to countryside, military high command was in Mikkeli and parliament was in Kauhajoki. Also finnish anti air was quite effective against Soviet bombers.
@@Cortesevasive They actually tried multiple times, but Finland used a strategy to fool them and it worked. Basically, during an emergency all lights were cut off from the city, and huge bonfires were lit somewhat 20km from the city center in a place that wasn't inhabited by almost anyone back then. During winter, there was sunlight only for a few hours, so the Red Airforce dropped all their bombs to the place where they saw lights. Also anti-air positions in that area made them believe that Helsinki was there.
@@DoctorJ_TTV Russians had allies then. Aka the Allies of Great Britain and USA. So while its true Russians lost most during WW2. Working together was overall in the benefit overall. Russians fighting Finns shows how they arent as tough as they try to show in autocratic fashion in modern Russia. Lack of civil rights and human rights is main reason why i am not pro autocracy which is what Trump base and Putin followers are into
@@DoctorJ_TTV Meh, think an invasion they would lose more. Reason why eastern Europe even went to NATO is because Russia was doing their own ethnic wars in the 90s, and obviously fearing they would be next. So obviously trusting autocrats is hardly smart.
@@DoctorJ_TTV Well i am unsure if i should waste time, 5 subscribers, no videos. Troll farm account have somewhat less. But i will bite. Vietnam war you could atleast criticize in USA, tell me how autocrat countries deal with it again?. And in the end USA lost that war it was highly unpopular. I could go on about the other wars (not sure why you included Iran, i mean if you mean the Coup d etat in 1950s, then yes i would agree, replacing a Democracy with a puppet friendly to the west i agree was not ok). But again i rather take civil rights, human rights over a place you cant have any of those.
Holy cow, this is a good video. I thought I knew everything about Winter War, but I was wrong. My grandfather was one fighting in the war. I have always had my highest respect for him and all the other men that fought there. Thank you those brave men and thank you Kings and Generals for this great video..
@Ralis Sedarys 1) the difference in manpower between germany and yugoslavia wasnt as big as the one between soviets and finns 2) the geography of the balkans is better suited for defence that said however, yugoslavia definitely deserves a mention. 💪🏽
Than you so much for this doc. I remember 25 years ago drawing units to paper map and tryin to understand the whole picture of these battles. This does just that. I also loved Greek and Gallipoli docs.
They are all Russians. Mostly so called "Kremlin bots". They are paid workers of Russian goverment and their job is to propagate pro-Russian disinformation.
Until Erko's envelopes remains untouched and only those whom can see them, are not allowed to speak about them in public, I am giving the benefit of a doubt that the war was *arguably* possible to evade. Then again I also question the need for war, was Soviet-Onions government so easy to offend that they'd wage a war over one idiot in important job? Or was it inevitable because there was some need for war. Can't never know truly, we can only speculate.
becoming a Nazi ally of course doesn't put any blame on any government, does it? and yes, i'm mostly Russian. partly Polish. and no, i do not support the government of the Russian Federation, and i consider it to be the main enemy of the people of Russia. i'm afraid they won't pay me for that. but that doesn't change history.
@@jan_kisan Dude, you joking? You Ruskies have been better friends with Germany between 1939-1941 than all the Axis states have been. Did you forget that the so-called defensive pact you signed gave Russia free hand to grab land from all surrounding countries? In return, you gave invaluable raw resources to Germany which kept the German Army running up until 1941.
@@jan_kisan thats all very rich considering Molotov just signed the pact with Ribentrop a couple of months earlier, at least do a factcheck, before spewing bot arguments like Finnish Nazi, Finnis bad. Fact is the Finnish tried to avoid this until the very last moment and your people, like most times in their history forced this war , so that they can gain territory.
Only 35 minutes in so far, but didn't expect such a strong defense from the fins against the soviets. Edit: Damn, what a crazy war I didn't know about.
Finland knew. Lost meant sure death in the Siberia work camps. Finnish was also stiff farmers and hunters nothing like todays fatties😁. Country is also full of forests and lakes roads were very tiny. Stalin had murdered own commanders before war. But maybe that winter war saved Russia they got time to improve before gentleman called Adolf began operation Barbarossa.🙂
Soviet army marches though Finland. Suddenly, from behind the hill they hear voice screaming: "One finnsh soldier is worth more than 10 russian soldiers!" Soviet commander sends 10 men to check. He hears guns blazing, people screaming and dying and then silence. Again, someone screams "One finnish soldier is worth more than 100 russians" Commander sends 100 soldiers. Screams, explosions, gunshots and again silence. Voice appears again: "One finnish soldier is worth more than 1000 russians" Commander is really pissed off and sends 1000 russians. Situation repeats itself, but after sound of combat stops, one gravely wounded soviet soldiers emerges from behind the hill and says with his last words: "Comrade... it's a trap!... there are two of them"
You're wrong, it wasn't surviving communists. It was surviving an attack of a stronger army. And that's the thing small nations have always done, in Finland we have a millenia long history of it, starting from Novgorodian chronicles.
We do. According to studies Finland is one of the most patriotic countries in Europe, with the absolute majority willing to put their lives on the line if there would be an armed conflict. We keep our veterans in very high regard. Very high.
I'm from sweden and gotta say there's nothing like hearing the finnish people swear and curse. They can put up a helluva fight, partly because the Swedish empire was so successful was because of the badass finns backing us. Proud of my brothers to the east. Stand strong, we Scandinavians have had our past troubles but no one has managed to conquer a unified Scandinavia so far(mostly thanks to you finns)
it is definitely noticeable how patriotic they are. their veterans are extremely respected, sadly every year there are less and less of them, "soon" there will be none.
Yes these heroes were allies of nazi Germany back then, responsible afterwards in starving millions of people in the blockade of Leningrad and setting up concentration camps in Karelia. Very tough people behind multiple trenches, barbed wire, concrete bunkers, machine guns, manned by artillery, instructed by foreign officers and financed, supplied with weapons. Lets not forget the meters of snow. Try to find an army who would break these lines. Yes, they broke.
@@The_OneManCrowd nah, the guy is just poorly informed(actually, propogandized) about actual matters of that blockade and the true causes of those starved to death. And his crying about defenders setting up proper defense - man, that's is a prime example of his(and folks like him)utter stupidity)))- According to his "logic", finns should have fight on a plain field with their bare hands )))))) It's like, cmon, why do you resist, how dare you shoot back to us, we bring "peace" and "happiness".....)))))))))))))))
@@hueytlahtoani1304 why thou? People here paradig around only russians died in winter war but in practice there was many ukranians died too And these people have irony of saying glory to ukraine
Not true. They fought with Nazi in WW2. The fact that they helped to siege Leningrad proved that Stalin was right about how dangerously close was Leningrad to the finish border
Sure, the location was bad, don't need to be very smart to look distances in a map. However Stalin would have been absolutely safe without starting a war in the first place. Stalin himself caused the problem and made the whole nation suffer and collapse. Finland would have been a shield for Leningrad but instead Stalin turned it into a weapon. Alliance with Germany was a defensive move and unnecessary one for Finland if USSR would have stayed friendly. It's this weird Russian propaganda trying to justify starting a war. But Russia seems to love wars and killing its own people rather than trying to live in peace and develop the country that is so much needs. People are living in slums, there's no food to go around, everything is in state of collapsing and leaders only care about becoming more wealthy and sending people into war. They even release people from prisons and then release them back just to them commit murders and serial hugs again. Such a paradise.
Wow! This video was clearly well researched, and really entertaining overall. Good job pronouncing all the crazy complex Finnish names. :D They're not easy for native English speakers.
My grandad fought on the Finnish side in this war, he survived. After the war he married my grandmother and they had 4 children (in a small village called Malax aka Malahti). They were dairy farmers until they retired, my grandmother is still alive (95 years old), my grandfather died a few years ago at the age of 95.
respect for the finnish. i knew they were amazing in this war against a vastly superior enemy like david vs goliath, but here are so much details. ty for the doc
It is almost hard to watch, the winter war always make me sad. The majority of Swedish people wanted to help Finland and it is tragic that the government did not intervene more directly with more help. Now we get to live with the shame forever. För Finlands sak är vår! Well fought brave brothers.
Thanks for the acknowledgment. I think most Finns have inherited a sense of being alone, which probably originates further back in our history, but was definitely strengthened by the wars. I felt surprisingly touched by your comment, so thank you. Sadly, I fear that Ukrainians now suffer the same feeling of aloneness.
This documentary is very detailed and using many interactive maps. It reveals events my book on this war does not discuss ! I am impressed. This is better than my battle map atlases of WW1 and WW2. Many thanks to your team for the excellent work done !
it depends what you mean cause russia is soviet union soviet union is russia they just changed from communist to capitalist plus finland went from being part of russia to being finland
@@randomchannel-ze2cw I'm pretty sure the Soviet Union broke into several countries, think the Baltic nations and Central Asian Republics that didn't exist till after the Soviet collapse
@@theawesomeman9821 literally,Soviet union's Southern borders was touching the Northern India's border which is southern most country in Asia. So Soviet union must be huge country consisting huge manpower same as China & India back then. Britishers tried hard to keep their jewel( Indian Subcontinent )out of the hands of Soviets before giving freedom to india.
Seeing the topic, and length of this video, was like opening the Christmas present I've always wanted. The Winter War seems to be criminally under focused on, especially on RUclips. I always found it a fascinating theater of ww2, and am especially haunted by the Ratte Road episode, involving the destruction of the 44th Ukrainian Division. The lesson there being, don't bring your parade uniform along on an isolated operation in the middle of a Finnish winter.
I would be very interested to hear all the stories that led to the soviet failures. There was a lot going on in soviet union which finland probably understood and gambled on and sort of won we all know that, but the soviet politics has not been covered very much.
"Nobody respects a country with a poor army, but everybody respects a country with a good army. I raise my toast to the Finnish Army" Josef Stalin, April 6th, 1948
In the winter war the Soviet army was able to take heavy casualties without collapsing. It seems the Germans didn't take this into account when planning operation Barbarossa.
They actually planned that the Soviets will continue to fight like that.
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Germany only goal was take Moscow, St. Petersburg and Stalingrad. Thats why Operation Barbarossa was need to be quick and decisive but they failed. Because in a long war against Soviet Union will be the end of the Third Reich which they did. But Soviet Union lost so much men that they can never continue to wage war after the end of WW2, USSR wants to take whole of Europe but they can't because they lost too much men. Russia still haven't recovered from the losses they took during WW2 until today.
@ wtf are you talking about?? Red Army emerged if not the strongest then one of the strongest after war in Europe. Do you know that operation Unthinkable (when allies together with the remnants of wiermaht planned surprise attack on the Soviet Union and was called off for fear that they definitely will not succeed quickly and even might not succeed in a long run?? Do your know who defeated 1ML Quantung army in Manchuria in August 1945?
The Germans were aware of that of course. But they believed the extent of that is much smaller than it actually was. And they tried to fight the war using conventional rules of war like they did against France for example.German generals believed that taking Moscow would end the war, while in reality that would have done not much, a logistical disaster yes and a whole load of other things the Soviets would still have so much more manpower that it won't turn the tide of war. Or the Soviets traded casualties for times. This would be unheard of in other nations. They can do it to some extent. But not even close to what the Soviets were able to.
@ in war against axis deaf rate was 1(g.s.)/1.3(s.s.), others were citizens. In plans of operation "unthinkable" wrote that Soviet Army could conquer all Europe in 1-2 months even if USA would bomb all Soviet biggiest cities.
These long videos take forever to make, so give us a kiss... I mean, a like, a like, please, no kisses. Similar video on the Battle of Greece: ruclips.net/video/_jDBQijICTo/видео.html
I hope it’s worth it. Because it is for me.
A kiss...😘
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These long videos are so awesome for traveling!
Thanks Kings & Generals. Hope you can make videos on the Wars Between Kingdom of Thailand(Ayutthaya), vs. Kingdom of Burma. Or the Kingdom of Thailand (Ayutthaya) vs Kingdom of Vietnam.
Kiitos! You have put it all very well together in this documentary. As a patriotic Finn I want to thank you and show my support for the great work you have done. We will never forget the Winter War and our heroes who fought for our freedom and independence.
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First time I’ve seen this, cool.
Мой прадед герой. Сражался в Советско-Финской войне 1939-1940. Вернулся живой, дожил до 1982. Я живу в Санкт-Петербурге, у меня остались некоторые вещи от прадеда, старая бритва и шинель.
@@user-denis-bessonov-1968which side?
I live in Pitkyaranta, this is the town where the fighting took place. Outside the town we have a monument called the "cross of sorrow". It symbolizes 2 mothers, Finnish and Russian, who hold each other in memory of the lost sons of Finland and Russia
Btw this is the only monument in Russia dedicated to the winter war
Unfortunately, if memory serves right, Nazis actually cited the winter wars as a reason for breaking the NAP with Russia and are often considered to have been allied with the Finish. They went so far as to even nominate three jews from the Finish army for the Iron Cross. ( declined by the Finish, of course ) However, anyone who claims the finish were Nazis or even all of the German army were made of Nazis soldiers doesn't know what Nazi stands for. Nazi was a name given to the members of the National socialist Party. A lot of the soldiers weren't party members and similarly, there were commanders who did not adhere to the party membership, politics, or even ideology, in fact, it is debated if even Erwin Rommel was a member of the Nazi party or not.
Was a soviet, not a soviet. Was a nazi, was not a nazi.
Reminiscing about such past things helps no-one. Only thing they might do is relight the candles of hate. Some things are best forgotten...
I Have met many Russians in my still rather short lifetime 32 years. All very nice lads. I consider them brothers of North.
@ Алексей П
I’m not excusing the slaughter in Vyborg or the really bad treatment of Slavs during the war. However, ”Western propaganda” doesn’t talk about how of the 10-30 million people Stalin murdered, the Finno-Ugric people were hit probably the hardest. 25,000 Ingrian Finns were killed, and their population was small in the first place. Stalin liquidated at least 80% of the Finns living on the Kuola peninsular by execution in the forest or in gulags. He even killed the Finnish communists that fles Finland after the civil war. Also what do you mean by agression in 1941? Finland punished the Soviet Union for trying to conquer it unprovoked and took more land. Was it wrong that the USSR conquered half of Germany (and would have taken all of it if the Western powers didn’t come)? Germany didn’t even have a substantial Russian minority, Eastern Karelia had many Finns and was inhabited by them long before the Slavs conquered the area in the middle ages. Finland refused to even cut the Murmansk railway or go into Leningrad, so this agression sounds funny. Finland also didn’t actively participate in the siege of Leningrad; the reason why the Finns were North and North-East of Leningrad was because they had built their greater Finland for strategic and political reasons. If Finland hadn’t done this, they would probably not have stopped the Vyborg-Petrograd offensive in time on the VKT-line in the summer if 1944, leading to Finland’s destruction. Remember it was Stalin who started the conflict with Finland while cooperating with Nazi Germany and it was him who ordered the civilians to stay in Leningrad, refusing surrender. I won’t even talk about Soviet war crimes.
Neither side is innocent, both commited war crimes. But there’s no question which one was the agressor.
Petrozavodsk* Not Petrograd
As a Pole, the fact that Finland stood up and fought such a brutal aggressor will stay on every Polish heart forever as a great example of how Finland preserved independence. Of course, Simo Hayha, Manneheim, etc. these heroes' stories are very popular in Poland.
Häyhä. His surname is Häyhä. And love back from Finland! 🇫🇮❤️🇵🇱
@@mariasirona1622 Not everyone has ä and ö on their keyboard :)
@@mariasirona1622 When will you realise that not everyone has öäå letters? wake up
Poland and Spain. Somehow my two favorite European countries since childhood. And still are.
@@cally2984 there is ä and ö in every keyboard, not as a one button but as two upper dot with alt+shift+that button (not exact, dont remember, with a smartphone know :) ) and after that press 'a' or 'o', and ä or ö will appear.
Same with German 'ü'.
Lack of understanding and learning the use of keyboard is beyond me, I've known that told above since 2001. And our households internet connection was up 2003.. lazyness of people.. gg.
47:50 "they didn't know how to ski, and the forest spoke Finnish" xD
Yeah that was funny I just got to the part of the video.
I stopped the video and scrolled down to look for this comment.
Also, the whole part with russian tanks stop working and soviet soldiers dying of cold really feels like the best reverse uno card against the soviets.
The finn's out sovieted the soviets.
Finnish him
true story, it was so dark u could hear them before u see them
I dunno man these Pine Trees are speakin Finnish
The genius of the finns and the incompitence of the soviets for most of the war is absolutely staggering
Beautiful
@@EM-tx3ly Couldn't agree more
Caucasus need to learn from Finns
@@EM-tx3ly lol, could not agree more
With Putin in charge ..... no chance but after him perhaps lol
Putin wants to be a Czar not the President and Czars are for life
“The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.”
"except the mongols"
Yeah pretty sentiment but complete bullshit 🇲🇳
@@TonyBustaroni no, it didn't.
@@TonyBustaroni worked for the russians too.
lIKE uKRAINAN HEROUS
It feels illegal to watch this for free. What a joy to watch.
Happy kitty
Truth.
You don't watch for free. There are commercials. That's your fee
Fiiinlaaand
@@ulflyng pretty sure the videos are demonitised, youtube dont support war related contents
Soviet casualties due to revolution, war, influenza, starvation, and imprisonment in the first half of the 20th century, were greater than the entire populations of Finland, Norway, and Sweden combined. Incredible loss of life that's difficult to comprehend. If you were a Russian born in 1900 and you were fortunate enough to live till retirement, you would have been witness to almost every type of catastrophic event known to mankind.
@@johndoe5432 It took about 50 years to get them out of eastern Europe.
@@johndoe5432 "they fought the nazis so they must be good guys"
Russia lost around 12,000,000 soldiers killed and 18,000,000 civilians murdered (mostly non Jews, the worst unrecognized Genocide since the Mongol and Imperial Japanese invasions of China) upon the Eastern Front in less than 4 years and so where are their Holocaust Museums? The squeaky wheels get oiled with sympathy and money, the silent wheels dont, in denial.
@@michaelbruns449
Propaganda my g
Thats how it works... They talk about a particular incident enough because it serves them a specific purpose and ignore other incidents + they never mention the war crimes that they commited
Goes to show also the character right there, doesn't it?
For a Ukrainian such as myself, I find Finns' struggle in the Winter War truly inspiring. Their courage and fortitude to fight against such an overwhelming foe will always be a role model for the Ukrainian people.
Take care, We dont know the outcome of the war, but one thing is clear= Russia is NOT winning. The forrests are speaking ukrainian, and no Russian is safe.
Russian ancestry including ethnic substrat of Mari Merya Finn Karelians and other fenn SO FINLAND is PART OF RUSSIAN MIR , I'm russian yhaplogroup I1a nordic, but have uralic and slavic ancestry also
When time comes we will retake our lands in Finland
Proud of my ancestors
For being a Finn myself, I find the Ukrainians skills and motivation while fighting against the Russian aggressions a great example not for us but the whole world. We will stay beside you.
Slava Ukraini!
@@zte2196 keep dreaming
This documentary definitely reminds me how tough some situations can be and Jesus how much stress it would be to be the leader of Finland.
President Kyösti Kallio was already sick during the war and died from heart attack in December 1940 on his last day as president. The stress took its toll.
Yeah one breakthrough and Your army could collapse
@@Hallstat72 im purely watching this because im related to Kyosti
President Kyösti Kallio on hearing soviet attacked across the border
"Gunpowder them"
"Ruutia vaan"
(Not direct translation as it is impossible in english)
Edit: he actully said "Kruutia vaan" which is the same but with more "countryside" dialect, and he actuslly said that as response when the President of the Republic Kallio and Commander in chief Field marshal Mannerheim entered the Presidental castle and adjutant major asked how Finland would respond to the challenge. Challenge being the full scale invasion that started that morning.
@@davisbizarreadventure448 Thats cool.
Finns, people of Czechia are proud to receive you in NATO this time. You taught us a lesson about how to fight for independence, we are so grateful. Long live Finland, may you never lose your country to the eastern hordes.
My grandfather was there, he didn't speak much of war, he told russian soldier was face torn apart from his suomi konepistooli burst. Never seen my grandfather crying before that, it was his testimony.
Great gun, great gun maker
Soviet Union:" We will conquer you in the winter"
Finland:" You think winter is your ally? You merely adopted it, I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the summer until I was only a man. By that time it was nothing to me but blinding. The snows betray you because they belong to me."
I actually read that in Bane's voice 😄
@@Cortesevasive not really if they had just signed the Soviet treaty they would have just given up their strategically defensive positions without a fight and would be defenseless if the Soviets ever tried geting anything more out of them( look at what happened to the Baltic states). The way the Finns fought showed to the Soviets that anexing Finland wasn't worth the cost and effort. So while the Finns still lost the territory the Soviets wanted the war helped secure their independence.
@@arijao92 True. In the narrative and on the map darkness does not become apparent. On the latitude of Suomussalmi in mid-winter there is four hours of daylight, four hours of twilight and 16 hours of total darkness.
@@Cortesevasive If Finland had lost the war, then Soviets troops would've had a victory parade in Helsinki as planned. There would also have been the Kuusinen puppet government sitting in Helsinki.
Losing 10% of the land of the land and 1/3 of the economy is not a victory
Mad respect for Simo. Protected his country, did his duty and retired. He defended his land and never conquered someone else.
He wanted to take part in continuation war, but he was refused due to his wounds. God knows how many kills he would've got.
Simo Hathaway
What's even more amazing is that he did NOT use a scope on his rifle. He said t hat a scope could give away his position due to sun glare on the lens.
@@vilzupuupaa4680 Continuation war was basically Finland trying to take back their stuff. Sad that Finland didnt get to keep that part of Karelia..
@@bicepbrah8179 yep. It was rightful Finnish land.
Respect to Finland 🇫🇮 from Turkey 🇹🇷. Brave warriors ❤️🇫🇮
Tell that to Erdogan
Sweden-Finland tried to ally with Turkey 1709
As a south african with boer warriors as some of my ancestors, respect to turkey's warriors during their war of independence in 1922 , what a brave fight !
Dear king and generals,
i would just like to say thank you. I have loved history for so long and you guys have made that possible.
You probably won't see this but thanks. I have watched you guys for mabey 3 years, That is almost as long as I have watched RUclips many thanks.
From Finn .
Edit: soz i probably seem like i am begging for likes. But like genuinely Cheers
@Connie Springer HMMMMM
This video is mustering all finns from across the world.
I heared about youtube first back in 2012 and started to watch videos back in 2014 with starting with some minecraft videos I enjoying to watch as 10 year old and I found this channel back in 2019 and been enjoying watching his content once in while.
At the end during the last stand for Viipuri all I was thinking was that those men where the reason that Finland is still a prosperous nation and the reason Finnish is still spoken in Finland. You don't know how grateful I am because there is an honest chance that I wouldn't have even been born if it weren't for the lives sacrificed at the front line.
That is true
@@myamericans1112 what did you just say? I'm genuinely confused, you start talking about how Canada apparently saved Finland's economy then you start talking about how some Canadian Finn's (sorry I mean CANADIAN) decided to fight for Finland and that somehow that's a bad thing. I mean that's what I picked up from that jumble of words because that sure wasn't the best built sentence I've ever seen.
I just don't understand the "I am sorry" part or the consistent full caps Canada or the point of sending that, like I'm talking about how I am grateful for what those soldiers did and you're talking about how Nokia is Canadian and that it's a bad thing that Canadian Finn's fought for Finland. Like what's up with your tone man?
@@myamericans1112 I'm still just confused what the point of that reply was
@@myamericans1112 Wtf are you even saying? why are you telling me this? I'm so confused man. Like please learn how to write. It's literally just meaningless words stuck together with the "I support the Russians next time." put at the end. I mean ok. Cool, but when?
@@thepickle5214 that dude is so embarrassed he deleted his comment lol
I was given a book called "Ski Patrol" when I was a kid. It was about Winter War and the fighters who fought on skis against the Russian invasion. I loved that book and it was the reason why I was drawn to this documentary. Quite enjoyable.
By the way, I got that book in 1965 and it's still on my bookshelf.
That's a piece of history.
1965? That book is one year older than my dad XD. Should I read it?
@@Saunakiuas06
That's when I got the book. It was already used at the time. If interested, I still have it and I'll get the publishing date. Let me know.
Was it by Roy J Snell published in 1940?
Fly golf is finns men sport, pink fly golf cause sknny fish lines cannot play soccer
35 dislikes were surrounded, put to motti and destroyed
Russians
Real Russians don't deny the evil of the communist regime...
kova
@@Lancia444 You're wrong about that.
@@ZahrDalsk @Sayuas No true Scotsman...sorry I meant Russian...would ever deny the evils of communism.
Finland and Finns are amazing. Bravely fighting for their independence and liberty against a huge, more powerful state 🔥 and becoming a happy, successful and rich country. I am a Ukrainian and I hope that we will be able to do the same for ourselves 💪🏻 Finns are a great inspiration for us❤️ Also it's kinda ironic that Soviets said that they are not Finns' enemies, they just want to free them from capitalists and the government that only harms their people. Kinda reminds their justification of russian-Ukrainian war.
You will have the courage, like our fathers used to have. Slava Ukraine. From Finland!
The same to you fellow ukrainians. You are the second country to beat sh!t out of your country! Stay strong! Heroyam slava! Heroes will be never forgotten!
Ukrainians fighters have the same spirit my great gandfathers had in winter war, you will be as successful as Finland was Slava Ukraini!
Looks like everyone needs to fight to break free from Russia. You're doing great job over there buddy, prosperous years are coming after the war
I think Putin read Stalin's diaries and mistook them as war tactic manuals.
I wish lots of strength and victories to you Ukraine!
Regards from Finland.
Finnish army fought like no other. Truly amazing video of survival battle of the Finnish nation. That Suomussalmi/Raate battle was brilliantly portrayed.
@@DoctorJ_TTV what were the allies supposed to do, stop as soon as they got to germany's border and let the nazi regime survive? lmao
The bravery and heroism of the stalwart Finns can’t be denied. Fighting against overwhelmingly odds to defend their country should be enough to earn the respect of anyone. I’ve bee intrigued by the Winter War recently and I enjoyed this video on the subject.
@The Spicy Russian No
@@rihc3584 No? Yes id say. Why say otherwise, it means Finland is a hard to beat enemy
Sisu is why they fought against overwheming odds. Look it up its a awesome part of Finnish culture!
as a swede i have nothing but respect for my finish brothers they are tuff as nails
So many Task Forces...
"Sergenant, what we have here?"
"Sir, three men, two mooses, one bear, dozen squirrel's and one big rock."
"Well sergenant, that's just all what it is neede for Task Force Nönnönnöö.
Lol
lol
Yep, there seems to be a pattern. In despair, regroup, name it Task Force "Whatever", and it'll be just fine.
@@samirantanen707 i think the main reason why they keep calling it a task force even in small numbers is because its made up of mixed outfits like policemen, marines, airmen, navy, coastguard and army which they hastily group together to make a combat unit.
@@jansandman6983 ...Farmers, tailors, smiths... you there, judge, take the machine gun. The reindeer will provide close air support. Got it?
Simo is the man. He popped a few hundred people, got shot in the face, survived, and then lived until the age of 96 dying in 2002. Damn. That's impressive.
A man who made money trading the myth about himself, while his country lost territories and paid reparations to the USSR until 1955.
@@kalsarikannit2058 what fucking money? wtf are you smoking? he fought, he killed, he did what he was told.
@@NaumRusomarov It's a troll, don't feed it.
@@jbdbean242 the man lived the same lifestyle before and after the war, he didn’t gain much more than any other guy who fought for Finland, so why would he lie about it
with explosive round left side on the face
This shows alot of how trained the Finnish soldiers are. Hats off to them
@@DoctorJ_TTV they were allowed to exist. Just like Japan. But There was a literal line through the middle of it for almost half a century with different governments controlling it
It really helps when you have been skiing since you were 5 year old and hunting since you were 12 year old 👍
My grandmas family is from Finland 🇫🇮 she says some of her grandparents fought in at against Russia for independence. Love to Finland 🇫🇮 from Canada
Hey im also canadian! And my grandma's family is also from Finland! They moved to Northern Ontario just after WW2.. 🇫🇮 🇨🇦 👍
❤❤
@@Piss-Poor-Infantry Wow... my grandma is Canadian and I'm finnish. She lives in Toronto and I visit Ontario and North America every two years
Hey I'm a Canadian too and I love and will support Finland 🇨🇦❤🇫🇮
This is complete nonsense. Visit the Senate Square in Helsinki and have a look at the monument in the centre of the square. You may think about why it there.
Also you should learn a little about Finnish history if you claim your root in Finland.
This is the most glorious defense of your homeland historical account that I have ever heard of.
Some people here say that the Soviets weren't equipped well enough. Neither were the Finns, a lot of men were called to service in such haste they went to the front in their civilian gear. Some even with their own hunting riffles. "Model Cajander" was an ironic name for the outfit and it consisted of an army badge men put on their winter hats and a utility army belt.
they had german equipment lol
@@v3ger273 nope
@@v3ger273 Eh.. nope.
@@meryatathagres1998 for a start the finish officer has a hugo boss uniform
@@mipecio legit google says that a large portion of finish equipment was bought from germany 🤣 u clown
When the Russian speaking snow is outsnowed by the Finnish speaking snow
actually like this one, well done
A lot of the Soviets were Ukrainian though.
@@weirdofromhalo It's just a joke. Don't over think it
Outpizza-ing the Hut, Finland Edition
What a dumb joke 😒 🙄 you know that snow ❄ 🙄 😒 does not talk
Mad respect to the channel for giving us such detailed content! Thank you everyone
Finns, you are always welcomed to Ireland. Irish people love you Finland, your bravery against the hordes of the east earn forever respect.
Honestly I love this and its free?? How can I give this more press?? This is what I always wanted the history channel to be
why do people to this day still speak of the history channel.. last time I was on the channel I must have been like 15 years old and now I'm 27.
Man, Russia sure loves making the same exact mistakes, all the way up to present day....
An underdeveloped country whose economy is solely based on raw materials and fossil fuels + a desperate need to be feared and respected superpower + a culture that has no respect for human life whatsoever = a recipe for disaster.
@@karelianmghow9095 and they've been baking that bread since at least Peter the Great
@@jeremiahlynds3465 I'm glad you mentioned Peter the Great. Many look back to the Soviets but I think you have to look at Peter the Great's reign to understand modern Russia. Peter did many things that later rulers would mimick.
@@fartknockerR17 good thing the intentional extermination of Ukrainians wasn't what I was referring to... Also if Russia's action are what NATO are indeed adversarial against, so be it.
@@jeremiahlynds3465
Peter the Great.
Ivan the Terrible.
Anatoly not Great not Terrible. (a.k.a. Dyatlov)
My heart goes to the finnish heroes fighting off the russian agressor. What a brave and intelligent bunch the finnish are. Props from a bulgarian!
Soviet aggressor*
As a Finn i was so exited seing this notification
Mannerheim is a legend
:DDDD
This was really good watch
@@mikaelmilnikov
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*TORI KUTSUU*
Respect to brave finnish people who defended their country against the oppressors and invaders. Greetings from Turkey!
@@Cortesevasive Finland at this point was fighting almost alone against the biggest military power in the world who had made a pact with Germany that seemed like an alliance. That alliance made Germany stop help from certain parts of Europe from reaching Finland in time. Also Allies were backing Finland in it's fight against the Soviets and told Finland that help will come and that made finnish leaders continue war longer, but when finns realised that help is not coming and Allies are trying to get Finland continue their war for the benefit of the Allies who could use Winter war as an excuse to invade Norway and Sweden and stop iron deliveries from there to Germany.
@@oskariharmanen3412 of you read Churchills memoars it stands clear that the idea of sending say 40-50 000 soldiers to Finland was just an excuse, the real target had been to take control over sw iron mines. But they had not enough troops with winter training and eguipment. Look at French Legion at Narvik: some of the alp rangers had new skis but forgotten the ski bindnings...
@@Cortesevasive I hate those who commit holocaust as much as those who commit holodomor😉 Luckily Finnish people defended themselves against such a tyranny.
@@Cortesevasive Also I never heard any crime commited by Finns against jews or homosexuals or Romanis which makes German-Finn alliance cyclical not ideologic.
Russia fought 11 times with Turkey - and only with the help of Britain & France Turks managed to win once)
This video is insane, cant believe there hasnt been a major movie on this war. Amazing video.
What an amazing documentary. Best one i have ever seen of this long war. Huge thank you to Kings and Generals.
The Finnish defenders show that the will to resist is the greatest weapon a nation can possess. Love and respect from Pakistan 👊
True, but they also had had help with a difficult terrain. The dutch tried for 5 days but would soon run out of ammo, and surrendered due to terror bombing. Though russia bombed Helsinki for instance, it was not the same as for instance Warsaw, Rotterdam or London. But true, the Finnish are a gritty people with no true love for mother Russia!
Hopefully America can resist the communists. The current "resistance" is actually the established power... so, the only thing theyre resisting is our continued freedom.
How exactly are communists stealing your free dumbs?
@@Cortesevasive And accomplish what? Most of the people left to countryside, military high command was in Mikkeli and parliament was in Kauhajoki. Also finnish anti air was quite effective against Soviet bombers.
@@Cortesevasive They actually tried multiple times, but Finland used a strategy to fool them and it worked. Basically, during an emergency all lights were cut off from the city, and huge bonfires were lit somewhat 20km from the city center in a place that wasn't inhabited by almost anyone back then. During winter, there was sunlight only for a few hours, so the Red Airforce dropped all their bombs to the place where they saw lights. Also anti-air positions in that area made them believe that Helsinki was there.
Respect and love from Türkiye. We always appreciate those who fight against all the odds. 🇹🇷 🇫🇮
Respect and love to türkey from Finland
-jimi
I knew nothing about the Winter War . Watching now because of what is happening in Ukraine . Much admiration for the Finns 💕
@@youarealwayscorrect 🤔🤔🤔
@@DoctorJ_TTV Russians had allies then. Aka the Allies of Great Britain and USA. So while its true Russians lost most during WW2. Working together was overall in the benefit overall. Russians fighting Finns shows how they arent as tough as they try to show in autocratic fashion in modern Russia. Lack of civil rights and human rights is main reason why i am not pro autocracy which is what Trump base and Putin followers are into
@@DoctorJ_TTV Meh, think an invasion they would lose more. Reason why eastern Europe even went to NATO is because Russia was doing their own ethnic wars in the 90s, and obviously fearing they would be next. So obviously trusting autocrats is hardly smart.
@@DoctorJ_TTV Well i am unsure if i should waste time, 5 subscribers, no videos. Troll farm account have somewhat less. But i will bite. Vietnam war you could atleast criticize in USA, tell me how autocrat countries deal with it again?. And in the end USA lost that war it was highly unpopular. I could go on about the other wars (not sure why you included Iran, i mean if you mean the Coup d etat in 1950s, then yes i would agree, replacing a Democracy with a puppet friendly to the west i agree was not ok). But again i rather take civil rights, human rights over a place you cant have any of those.
You wouldn't believe this story if it was in a movie! The Fins sure proved themselves as warriors against incredible odds.
The amount of careful research it must have taken to put this all together is staggering to contemplate. Thank you.
Glory to Finland from Ukraine. We learn from you guys.
You too will be accepted into Nato..
Ukrainians were Soviets and Ukrainian troops fought in the Red Army. You're a clown
Finland hade inte bråkdel av hjälpen som Ukraina får o ändå får ni rysk smisk.😂😂
Holy cow, this is a good video. I thought I knew everything about Winter War, but I was wrong. My grandfather was one fighting in the war. I have always had my highest respect for him and all the other men that fought there. Thank you those brave men and thank you Kings and Generals for this great video..
The fact that you provide this excellent documentary PLUS subtitles is just amazing. It's such a shame I can like only once.
So I liked for you, it's brilliant.
Finland was the biggest underdog of WW2.
@Ralis Sedarys 1) the difference in manpower between germany and yugoslavia wasnt as big as the one between soviets and finns
2) the geography of the balkans is better suited for defence
that said however, yugoslavia definitely deserves a mention. 💪🏽
@Ralis Sedarys Yugoslavia was conquered, Finland was not conquered.
@Ralis Sedarys The same incompetent enemy that also managed to defeat Axis in the eastern-front by themselves mostly.
Greece?
Just because no one really gave a shit about it
Than you so much for this doc. I remember 25 years ago drawing units to paper map and tryin to understand the whole picture of these battles. This does just that. I also loved Greek and Gallipoli docs.
What else is to say harsh land created harsh men. It's a brilliant example of symbiosis between a man and a land.
No words can explain my appreciation to your efforts. Wonderful work.
I can’t believe some few individuals who actually think that Finland was the one to blame here for the war.
They are all Russians. Mostly so called "Kremlin bots". They are paid workers of Russian goverment and their job is to propagate pro-Russian disinformation.
Until Erko's envelopes remains untouched and only those whom can see them, are not allowed to speak about them in public, I am giving the benefit of a doubt that the war was *arguably* possible to evade.
Then again I also question the need for war, was Soviet-Onions government so easy to offend that they'd wage a war over one idiot in important job?
Or was it inevitable because there was some need for war.
Can't never know truly, we can only speculate.
becoming a Nazi ally of course doesn't put any blame on any government, does it? and yes, i'm mostly Russian. partly Polish. and no, i do not support the government of the Russian Federation, and i consider it to be the main enemy of the people of Russia. i'm afraid they won't pay me for that. but that doesn't change history.
@@jan_kisan Dude, you joking? You Ruskies have been better friends with Germany between 1939-1941 than all the Axis states have been. Did you forget that the so-called defensive pact you signed gave Russia free hand to grab land from all surrounding countries? In return, you gave invaluable raw resources to Germany which kept the German Army running up until 1941.
@@jan_kisan thats all very rich considering Molotov just signed the pact with Ribentrop a couple of months earlier, at least do a factcheck, before spewing bot arguments like Finnish Nazi, Finnis bad. Fact is the Finnish tried to avoid this until the very last moment and your people, like most times in their history forced this war , so that they can gain territory.
Well motivated troops are a quality that defies the odds. Salute to Finland.
Only 35 minutes in so far, but didn't expect such a strong defense from the fins against the soviets.
Edit: Damn, what a crazy war I didn't know about.
Линия Маннергейма их и спасла. Больше ничего.
Finland knew. Lost meant sure death in the Siberia work camps. Finnish was also stiff farmers and hunters nothing like todays fatties😁. Country is also full of forests and lakes roads were very tiny. Stalin had murdered own commanders before war. But maybe that winter war saved Russia they got time to improve before gentleman called Adolf began operation Barbarossa.🙂
@@mappermapperovich
Salty
Around 35 minute mark on the video is the area where my great grandfather fought too 🙂
Tolvajärvi-Ägläjärvi.
@@trumpjongun8831 My grandfather too.
Consistently stunned at the quality and professionalism of these videos.
Thanks!
It was great to know that our fellow Finnish nordics were able to repel the invading Russians.
Love from Norway
For a while, they did lose the war in the end
As Pegazin said Finns repelled the invasion till the end of ww2. For an underdog That is a victory, not a defeat.
@@deathbyastonishment7930 Yah obviously, but look at the casualties of the Soviets compared to Finland.
@@deathbyastonishment7930 Finland never surrendered, there were peace negotiations!
@Grin Akuma I’m not a nationalist so I’m not sure why it would matter, but I’m from Australia.
Soviet army marches though Finland. Suddenly, from behind the hill they hear voice screaming:
"One finnsh soldier is worth more than 10 russian soldiers!"
Soviet commander sends 10 men to check. He hears guns blazing, people screaming and dying and then silence. Again, someone screams
"One finnish soldier is worth more than 100 russians"
Commander sends 100 soldiers. Screams, explosions, gunshots and again silence. Voice appears again:
"One finnish soldier is worth more than 1000 russians"
Commander is really pissed off and sends 1000 russians. Situation repeats itself, but after sound of combat stops, one gravely wounded soviet soldiers emerges from behind the hill and says with his last words:
"Comrade... it's a trap!... there are two of them"
Thank you for this I rlly enjoyed it !! Hope ur having a good day
Kiitos!
Gonna be honest. Seems like the Finns were really flexible, while the Russians weren't. Explains a lot.
Dear Finnish people, much respect from the ROC (Taiwan). You guys are the best example of how to survive from the communists.
You're wrong, it wasn't surviving communists. It was surviving an attack of a stronger army.
And that's the thing small nations have always done, in Finland we have a millenia long history of it, starting from Novgorodian chronicles.
You should start reading Marx, Lenin and Mao, when PRC come you will need it
🇹🇼👍🏻
🇨🇳👎🏾
Too bad winterwar was brutal but we live in 2020+ now wars are much more brutal
:/
Thanks I really like to hear ppl supporting finnish but the ukraine one just why? What did ukraine even do??
Wow! This is great I can’t imagine all the research this took with all the different little battles
Quality production, so informative. Appreciate it truly.
Was watching the Saturnalia video when this pops up in my notifications, and I immediately clicked! This channel is so addicting.
Huge respect for the Finns defending their country against the reds. Greetings from Turkey !
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Thank you
As usual, incredible job breaking down a very much unknown (at least here in the US) but very important conflict. Thank you
Finland nowadays is generally considered a great country. I don't doubt they thank these brave heroes who fought for their freedom
We do. According to studies Finland is one of the most patriotic countries in Europe, with the absolute majority willing to put their lives on the line if there would be an armed conflict. We keep our veterans in very high regard. Very high.
I'm from sweden and gotta say there's nothing like hearing the finnish people swear and curse. They can put up a helluva fight, partly because the Swedish empire was so successful was because of the badass finns backing us. Proud of my brothers to the east. Stand strong, we Scandinavians have had our past troubles but no one has managed to conquer a unified Scandinavia so far(mostly thanks to you finns)
it is definitely noticeable how patriotic they are. their veterans are extremely respected, sadly every year there are less and less of them, "soon" there will be none.
Yes these heroes were allies of nazi Germany back then, responsible afterwards in starving millions of people in the blockade of Leningrad and setting up concentration camps in Karelia.
Very tough people behind multiple trenches, barbed wire, concrete bunkers, machine guns, manned by artillery, instructed by foreign officers and financed, supplied with weapons. Lets not forget the meters of snow.
Try to find an army who would break these lines. Yes, they broke.
@@The_OneManCrowd nah, the guy is just poorly informed(actually, propogandized) about actual matters of that blockade and the true causes of those starved to death. And his crying about defenders setting up proper defense - man, that's is a prime example of his(and folks like him)utter stupidity)))- According to his "logic", finns should have fight on a plain field with their bare hands )))))) It's like, cmon, why do you resist, how dare you shoot back to us, we bring "peace" and "happiness".....)))))))))))))))
Thanks!
If there was RUclips coverage of this war I would say in the comments below : GLORY TO Finland 🇫🇮
Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
God bless Ukraine against the antichrist Putin
40% of soviet soldiers in winter war was ukranians
@@starlightglimmer3260 Uhh you are not supposed to say that...
@@hueytlahtoani1304 why thou? People here paradig around only russians died in winter war but in practice there was many ukranians died too
And these people have irony of saying glory to ukraine
@@starlightglimmer3260 Thats why i said it. Its a joke.
I really command the finnish for their brave fighting spirit. Greetings from germany, may the fatherland protect you.
¡Gracias!
Absolutely AMAZING video! Such an amazing amount of detail and reenactment. Thank u so friggen much guys!
See, this is why I like Finland. They don't really take sides, they just do their Finnish thing.
Not true. They fought with Nazi in WW2. The fact that they helped to siege Leningrad proved that Stalin was right about how dangerously close was Leningrad to the finish border
Sure, the location was bad, don't need to be very smart to look distances in a map. However Stalin would have been absolutely safe without starting a war in the first place. Stalin himself caused the problem and made the whole nation suffer and collapse. Finland would have been a shield for Leningrad but instead Stalin turned it into a weapon. Alliance with Germany was a defensive move and unnecessary one for Finland if USSR would have stayed friendly. It's this weird Russian propaganda trying to justify starting a war. But Russia seems to love wars and killing its own people rather than trying to live in peace and develop the country that is so much needs. People are living in slums, there's no food to go around, everything is in state of collapsing and leaders only care about becoming more wealthy and sending people into war. They even release people from prisons and then release them back just to them commit murders and serial hugs again. Such a paradise.
Your presentation/production is next to none. I’m biting my nails over here.
Been ALMOST A YEAR and they are still reacting to comments, KUDOS!
I hope you'll do a similar documentary of Continuation War! Splendid work!
The glorious Finns! Their tenacity is unbelievable!
Wow! This video was clearly well researched, and really entertaining overall. Good job pronouncing all the crazy complex Finnish names. :D They're not easy for native English speakers.
You have my respect Finland
And my axe
@@ilmarisarjakoski7166 and my bow.
My grandad fought on the Finnish side in this war, he survived. After the war he married my grandmother and they had 4 children (in a small village called Malax aka Malahti). They were dairy farmers until they retired, my grandmother is still alive (95 years old), my grandfather died a few years ago at the age of 95.
Incredible!
I have played hockey in Malax hockey arena. Im from Kokkola Karleby, not so far away.
Thanks
respect for the finnish. i knew they were amazing in this war against a vastly superior enemy like david vs goliath, but here are so much details. ty for the doc
It is almost hard to watch, the winter war always make me sad. The majority of Swedish people wanted to help Finland and it is tragic that the government did not intervene more directly with more help.
Now we get to live with the shame forever.
För Finlands sak är vår!
Well fought brave brothers.
No need for shame. You still helped lot.
@@arvopohja7693 Yeah I know, but I wonder what if anything could have been different if there were a swede standing next to every finn
Thanks for the acknowledgment. I think most Finns have inherited a sense of being alone, which probably originates further back in our history, but was definitely strengthened by the wars. I felt surprisingly touched by your comment, so thank you.
Sadly, I fear that Ukrainians now suffer the same feeling of aloneness.
@@annasaarinen332 Aslong as we support Ukraine in best way we can. But yeah its sad, i am cheering for them overall. Really admire their courage!
We had a few thousand Swedish brave volunteers and they fought bravely
This was definitely one of the best videos i have ever watched on RUclips
Seriously? This masterpiece, AND ONLY 346k VIEWS? COME ON!
This documentary is very detailed and using many interactive maps. It reveals events my book on this war does not discuss ! I am impressed. This is better than my battle map atlases of WW1 and WW2. Many thanks to your team for the excellent work done !
We have access to Russian sources. They are not always 100% unbiased, but adding them to the soup gives us some additional perspective.
@@KingsandGenerals My books are from the 70s and 80s, so no communist resources available. Many thank again ! I will check the Battle of Greece soon.
Don't mess with Finland,damn those people are tough as hell,they have nothing to be ashamed of that's for sure
Most people under cannot ski now
I've studied WW1 and WW2 and I have to say this vid is bang on. I enjoyed it. Keep up the good work!
It's impressive that during the 20th century, Finland outlasted the Soviet Union.
it depends what you mean cause russia is soviet union soviet union is russia they just changed from communist to capitalist plus finland went from being part of russia to being finland
@@randomchannel-ze2cw I'm pretty sure the Soviet Union broke into several countries, think the Baltic nations and Central Asian Republics that didn't exist till after the Soviet collapse
@@randomchannel-ze2cw LONG LIVE INDEPENDENT POLAND AND UKRAINE!
@@theawesomeman9821 literally,Soviet union's Southern borders was touching the Northern India's border which is southern most country in Asia. So Soviet union must be huge country consisting huge manpower same as China & India back then. Britishers tried hard to keep their jewel( Indian Subcontinent )out of the hands of Soviets before giving freedom to india.
Ultimate revenge
Never knew Finland was so bad ass ! I really enjoyed this video thanks
I Finnished this video and loved it 👍
Seeing the topic, and length of this video, was like opening the Christmas present I've always wanted. The Winter War seems to be criminally under focused on, especially on RUclips. I always found it a fascinating theater of ww2, and am especially haunted by the Ratte Road episode, involving the destruction of the 44th Ukrainian Division. The lesson there being, don't bring your parade uniform along on an isolated operation in the middle of a Finnish winter.
I would be very interested to hear all the stories that led to the soviet failures. There was a lot going on in soviet union which finland probably understood and gambled on and sort of won we all know that, but the soviet politics has not been covered very much.
And now imagine how under apprechieted the Lappland's War and the whole arctic side of this all is.
The most silenced and ignored of them all.
"Nobody respects a country with a poor army, but everybody respects a country with a good army. I raise my toast to the Finnish Army"
Josef Stalin, April 6th, 1948
This wiseass just copies my popular quatation from another video
@@Мауро-г8э Stalin, is it you?
Wow, I didn't know he ever said that, but that's awesome to get a compliment from your former enemy. 👍
Did Stalin actually say that?
@@enderreaper1482 From a short research it seems he indeed said this.
Long live Finland and her people ! Lots of love en greetings from Holland !
Wow, that Soviet sausage party ended pretty badly.
@@canadianmmaguy7511 Yes, the last sausage party I attended was also ended by a Finnish surprise attack.
@@canadianmmaguy7511 lol so true.
@@canadianmmaguy7511 but strange to see finnish gays in tel Aviv
@@canadianmmaguy7511 How coincidental coming from a Canadian, the gayest country in the world.
@@denniswilkerson5536 Sweden: Am i a joke to you?
WOW ! The amount of work and all the research that went into making this !
In the winter war the Soviet army was able to take heavy casualties without collapsing.
It seems the Germans didn't take this into account when planning operation Barbarossa.
They actually planned that the Soviets will continue to fight like that.
Germany only goal was take Moscow, St. Petersburg and Stalingrad. Thats why Operation Barbarossa was need to be quick and decisive but they failed. Because in a long war against Soviet Union will be the end of the Third Reich which they did. But Soviet Union lost so much men that they can never continue to wage war after the end of WW2, USSR wants to take whole of Europe but they can't because they lost too much men. Russia still haven't recovered from the losses they took during WW2 until today.
@ wtf are you talking about?? Red Army emerged if not the strongest then one of the strongest after war in Europe. Do you know that operation Unthinkable (when allies together with the remnants of wiermaht planned surprise attack on the Soviet Union and was called off for fear that they definitely will not succeed quickly and even might not succeed in a long run?? Do your know who defeated 1ML Quantung army in Manchuria in August 1945?
The Germans were aware of that of course. But they believed the extent of that is much smaller than it actually was. And they tried to fight the war using conventional rules of war like they did against France for example.German generals believed that taking Moscow would end the war, while in reality that would have done not much, a logistical disaster yes and a whole load of other things the Soviets would still have so much more manpower that it won't turn the tide of war. Or the Soviets traded casualties for times. This would be unheard of in other nations. They can do it to some extent. But not even close to what the Soviets were able to.
@ in war against axis deaf rate was 1(g.s.)/1.3(s.s.), others were citizens.
In plans of operation "unthinkable" wrote that Soviet Army could conquer all Europe in 1-2 months even if USA would bomb all Soviet biggiest cities.
I can’t wait for the continuation war episode this is gonna be amazing
Excellently done vid. Never seen anything like it. ❤🤟
My relatives fought at Taipale River. Good video