As an artist, coming from an iPad Pro user to a Tab S9 Ultra, the drawing experience is amazing. The screen is gorgeous and you have so much space to fit all of the tool palettes and still have a big space for your canvas. Also have so many pen options! Im glad i made the switch.
@@michealadebz It has the most powerful chip for mobile devices from Snapdragon, plenty of performance. Regardless, painting doesn't need much raw power. Layers and resolutions are most dependant on RAM, 12GB is plenty.
The 11" iPad is in fact NOT 4:3 in aspect ratio. Only the 12.9 or 13 inch version is. The 11" is 10:7 which started in 2018. The current iPad mini (2021) is 3:2. All iPads used to have 4:3 back in the days, but atm there are at least 3 different aspect ratios in the lineup.
Yep. 4:3 is like 1.333, but The very M4 11 inch shown here is actually like 1.452. So it's thinner than the 4:3 of the original iPad. For reference, the S9, S9+ and Ultra all have 16:10, so 1.6.
It's iPad for me because of the aspect ratio. It mimics an A4 size sheet of paper which is the most readable format to human central vision. Anything wider than 4:3 for a handheld tablet spills over into our peripheral vision... yes there is biological science and math behind Apple's design decisions.
Ooo I like this comment. No one really put it out like that. You think it’s for mostly for drawing or can we use the spill over for graphic designing like photo editing
Samsung is amazing actually. I remember when Dex was first announced, I immediately said I'm never going to use that. Now, I use it everyday. When I was overseas for 8 months and working from a hotel with terrible internet service, I used my phone data and the apps on my phone to work through my PC. It was a lifesaver. At home now, I'm still using Dex every single day. Samsung has some features that make it so that I can't even use a different Android device. It has to be Samsung at this point.
@@teohontech7141 The beauty of Dex to me is when using it with a separate monitor. I actually ran my business with Dex for about a month when I went overseas. The internet at the hotel was terrible so I was using my unlimited phone data. I had Dex running through my laptop. I did the work on my laptop, then sent the files using my the email client on my phone, and using my phone's data. Before that happened, I thought I would never use Dex. Even now, I still use it sometimes when my home internet is not working. On a separate monitor, it's not super smooth but it is really powerful anyway.
I tried out both the iPad and the Tab S9 series in person. Previously, I used a drawing tablet. Unfortunately, the Tab S9 series doesn’t detect very subtle brush strokes; you have to press the pen tip firmly on the screen to draw.
I guess my next one will be a Samsung. I've used iPads for a while but the Apple Pencil is pretty fragile (I'm on my third), the file system and sharing on iOS is super annoying & restricting and I don't like it that I can't backup the iPad to a different cloud storage provider / NAS. I also prefer the aspect ratio of the iPad, but that's probably the only thing at the moment.
@@teohontech7141 last time I had to restore an iPad backup my pro create files were missing. Backing up to a computer can be very annoying on iPad because can't do it wireless and automated. I wish we could have apps like on Android where selected folders get automatically backed up to a network share , but I think iOS doesn't allow such apps because of it's very restricted file system. At least I couldn't find any that would do it. An annoying part of automated iOS iCloud backups is also that we can't access them through a browser or so. We can restore it in to amother device, but not access the backup to restore a file from it. You also can't do a partial restore. Like if you delete / reinstall an app the iCloud backup won't give you the data for just that app back in many cases. Then you can only do a full restore which you might not want. It's sadly super limited what iCloud backup offers in functionality / accessibility compared to some other solutions.
My guess as to why your file is missing is because that file wasn't backed up in the first place. Wireless backup to a computer will be painfully slow. And Apple devices don't have the best wireless connection so there is high chance of wireless backup having problems. I mean I already have frequent problems sending video files wirelessly to my Mac. iCloud backup is a system backup and not a files+folder backup. That's why there is no access to individual files and folders online. I use iCloud together with Microsoft OneDrive for access to files+folders.
I’m the same. Been drawing on iPad for 5-6yrs, next upgrade for me I wanna try a Samsung tablet, even if the aspect ratio is also iffy for me. I think the adjustment will be doable
I'm happy to see pwm being recognized but do want to add that temporal dithering/FRC seems to be another huge eye discomfort trigger. It's pixel level flickering, can only check with a microscope and fast camera in slomo
Also pwm can be acceptable if the frequency is high enough. Sadly new displays using "DC dimming" are using a software DC like dimming which causes strain too btw.
Can you make review for ipad air 11inch vs samsung tabs 9. The title is a bit confusing because Tab S9 has 3 different variants. S9, S9+ and S9ultra. I dont think you are holding S9.
I got Tab S9 Ultra. The only thing that is missing is a simple drawing app that can mimic a real pencil drawing experience with tilt support. I tried 'Concepts' only to realise it is different for iPad and Android. The core functionality of editing brush settings is not present in android app.
@@teohontech7141 Totally agree! Sometimes, I regret not going for an iPad solely for the great drawing experience and functionality. While Samsung has a good enough processor, it doesn't have the best apps like Procreate.
Hi Teoh, if I may, could I ask for your opinion on if someone who has not used tablets for art before but wants to start, between the ipad pro or even the air I guess and the Samsung s9. Which of those would be easier to use for art. They both seem to have pros and cons to me. thank you.
iPad Air is more worth the money than Pro because of the lower price point. But do compare prices with M2 iPad Air and refurbished M2 iPad Pro (if available). Between iPad and Samsung, drawing performance to me is on par. iPad advantage is there are more graphic design apps that handle vector, layout and typography. Otherwise between iPad and Samsung, you can choose based on features you like and pricing.
@@teohontech7141 thank you for getting back Teoh, I do appreciate your thoughts, I've followed you on youtube for years. Most youtube videos seem to only focus on the tech side, while you use them for art in real world settings. thanks again.
Sir, this means that once you purchase Concept app on Android, it can be used on any Android device, every time you have to purchase separate Concept app for that Android device. Like buying it on Android mobile, it can also be used on Android tablet or it will have to be purchased separately.
Sir, my question was if I buy it once on Android can I play it on any Android platform or do I have to buy it every time? Just like it was purchased on Android mobile, it will be purchased again on Android tablet.
What about if I buy the full version for the Procreate for example on current iPad if I want to upgrade to another iPad in future will it again requre purchase or just by login I can access?
hello, thank you for the video! but i'm sorry i'm still cannot decide which ipad do you think i ishould buy. i never buy apple's product before so it will be new for me. i'm an artist, mostly draw anime/manga style and probably will learn animation too. i want to buy ipad because i'm interested using procreate. i mostly draw/work at home, even if i buy an ipad i will only use it at home. i just like its mobility to allow me drawing anywhere instead of sitting for hours in front of my laptop and wacom. i dont have any budget for now, but i want to buy an ipad that will be able to use for a very very long time. do you have any recommendation? thank you! >
I don't think you'll go wrong with either. If you want to use Procreate, then it's gonna be iPad. Decide based on the software you want to use. Both tablets can last for years until they physically break down.
Most tablets have too much power for the average user now... Pro/ultra is really down to a few apps at best. Having had an iPad for 10 years, I went with the Ultra, and I have to say it's great!
It's all come to what's your priorities and use.For example getting ipad for specific apps to work with and Note taking intensively or just for media consumption and and some other normal uses. May I know what did you used your iPad for ? And what's your prefer on the Samsung tab.
I don't like the boxy look of the ipad. The Ultra has much more space to work with being 16:9. I draw in landscape, so the Ultra is so much better than the boxy ipad. The bezels on the Ultra are much smaller than the thick ipad bezels. I don't like anti reflective coating on electronics, it down grades color quality. Apple needs to redesign the ice pick pencil, S Pen is a pleasure to draw with. Both tablets are nice but I would buy the Ultra over the ipad.
Ultra is physically bigger which is why 16:9 is still usable. S9+ is not as usable even though it is 16:9 especially in vertical orientation. Because some apps have fixed size UI that will take up more space on a smaller display
Agreed in the context of using it as a dedicated landscape mode device. That said, 4:3 plays better if you want a device that's more orientation agnostic. (iPad lineup, Surface Pro, etc) It's a "pick your poison" sort of thing for sure. (For example I'm happy with my 12.9" iPad as it is in ProCreate, but not in CSP. I'd definitely prefer the additional 2ish inches of horizontal screen real estate with the Ultras just to accommodate CSP's infamous UI clutter if I was using it purely as a desktop CSP drawing tablet.)
Tab s9 sounds more natural and ipad pro m4 sounds more fun. Also since tab s9 is longer in landscape so the speakers are more far apart to give a better sense of direction.
I want to purchase tablet for making drawing and taking notes i am full samsung user but when it comes to tablet i am very much confused my point are (confused between tab s9 and air m2) - 1) i like aspect ratio of ipad air m2 2) air m2 display is lcd panel with 60hz only samsung provides oled 120hz 3) apple pencil feels good in hand to me 4) ipad air m2 feels nice tab s9 feels small in my hand 5) samsung has expandable storage 6) i can have samsung ecosystem if i buy tab s9 7) ipad can be used to showoff beautiful colours lol 8) also which is better for making animated videos I DONT wanna PAY for apps So please please help me by considering my points 🙏🏻🙏🏻 Also i do not own any apple products
Hey there! I have a question, for uni. and watching movie-shows yt etc. Which one should i buy; ipad air m2 11" or ipad pro m2 11" (all of them with pencil tho) ? In my country the ipad pro m2 11" is 5k more than new ipad air so which one is better for long term? New ipad is 2 years younger and it will be get more updated that's the two reason im stuck with it: m2 pro price and update stuff... 🤷🏻♀️ and also is it big enough 11"? I want to buy the 13" but the price diff is literally 10k its so much tho. I would like to state that the iPad I bought can be updated for at least 6-7 years and that I want to use it for a very long time without lag or other problems.
If price difference is not big, M2 iPad Pro is good. It will still last for very long time. i still use my 2018 iPad Pro too, just sent it to change battery yesterday.
The only reason i am still using ipad pro despite having s23 u phone is becoz of procreate …. If in future procreate is available for samsungs tabs … thats when i might shift
TBH Wacom and Apple are getting too expensive while a more affortable competition is catching up in features for a noticably lower price. I got a M1 iPad Pro and I think my next tablet for art will be an Android.
@@rinyyp7742 It depends. If you are a pro digital artist, musician or creator making your living from your devices then buying the best is a no-brainer. I think there is no doubt the iPad is far superior to the Tab S9 Ultra in nearly every metric.
@@teohontech7141people always talking about out pricing. Sure you can get deals on the Samsung. But I’m going to be fair, if you are comparing at launch the price for the tabs9ultra and the 13inch m4 iPad Pro both at 256 storage were the same price at 1200 dollars. Yes the Samsung comes with an spen though. But support and longevity is another question. I feel that for art and multitasking, media consumption the aspect ratio is better on all three sizes of the tab s9 series. I hate when people compare the size of the tab s9 ultra to the 11inch iPad. Like what sense does that make. Compare the closer size to each other possible. Great in depth video. I just sold my tab s9 ultra and picked up the 13inch m4 iPad. There’s just a few apps that I’ll be using that only Apple has and it will be for my art, music and video.
On Android, there are more options for backup because you can just get a back up software from the google store and use it to back up precisely the things you want to back up rather than backing up the entire tablet. I use DriveSync which can back up to my cloud storage of choice. I back up to Google Drive specific folders on my tablet, not the whole tablet which is pointless. It backs up my phone and tablet to Google Drive, which is also synced to my PC. It's like a perfect solution. When I had an iPad Pro, it was terrible. Either you back up the entire tablet to iCloud, which I don't even have an account, or you buy a 3rd party back which has almost no access to the iOS system. This is still the worst thing about the iPad. iOS itself. File management is awful.
The thing about selective backup is you must know in advance where your files are saved. Some apps let you save to the cloud (great so no backup required), some save to the file folders, some save into the Android data folder (Infinite Painter).
@@teohontech7141 Yes, you have to know where the files are, and that brings up another point about mobile OS. You don't get to choose where you save your files, generally, although it's better on Android OS.
iPad is way better for drawing Samsung is and always will be laggy at some point after a year or two. Android products have no value for trade in. Eventually it would cost you more as you upgraded in the future.
Im getting s9 for half the price of ipad pro... Im more attracted towards ipad due to its procreate and more powerful chipset... But can anyone suggest is it really worth to pay double for ipad ???
It comes down to whether you really need Procreate. There are many drawing apps on Android too. As for powerful chipset, that's not a deciding factor at all because just imagine iPad has 1000 times more powerful processor... so what?
@@teohontech7141 thanks for the response... I just dont want to regret buying... I have never used an Apple device so im not sure if it really provides that much of an upgrade to double my budget..
im deciding between the M2 ipad pro and ipad air M2 … just cant decide but im a moderate-light adobe fresco user but I have 2 android phones lol - s24+ and pixel 7 lmaoo im stuckkk
@@anmac6910 M2 iPad Air provides more value for money simply because price is lower. If you can find a refurbished M2 iPad Pro from Apple, that will be even better.
@@teohontech7141 whats the difference between refurbished and open box ? currently in canada there are none 6th gen ipad pro 11 or 12.9in a vailable so i have to check everyday but … is best buy better ? i see one for 1,098 CAD open box but the seller has a bad reputation from best buy
I like to draw on Clip studio paint and I still can't find a way to use something like partial touch rejection on Tab s9 ultra so when the pen tip is close to the screen you cannot press anything and have to lift the pen to press anything😂 I get used to it now but it's very annoying at first. It is never a problem with my old ipad pro tho. If anyone know how to fix this please help.😂
In your opinion, is the performance of the wacom one pen comparable to the apple pro pen? Im looking at both tablets and id mostly use them for drawing. I have a cintiq 22 so i want a pen that can get in the same realm of line quality as wacom's pro pen.
Wacom has better sensitivity for pressure across the whole range. Pen point is sharper and easier to see the line. But Apple Pencil Pro is pretty good too, as shown by the many professional who use only iPad to create art
Are your eyes hurt when you draw on ipad m4? I wanted buy 13 inch but i hear that there pwm and eyes can hurt but because i never have oled before idk 😭 Im using now ipad air 4 so there no pwm
When using the tablet, will you be holding the tablet often in hand, or set it on the table? Keywords are "when using the tablet". Both are portable, as in you can bring them around easily, but 13-inch is more of a table-top tablet.
You’re using a tablet for what purpose? If you’re using normal content consumption then any tablet can but if you want to use it for a laptop replacement then just get a laptop instead. Don’t be fooled by the size or processors or the internal storage.
If I change devices after purchasing Concept on Android, will I have to purchase it again? For example, if I am using an Android mobile, do I need to buy it again on an Android tablet? Please help me sir
Thank you for telling people the true sdr brightness of the tab s9 ultra. People see these 1% in the sun 900 nit bull crap and say it's bright. It's not. Because I bought the 11" tab s9, and the 420nits is just pathetic. My original tab s is 510 nits. 9 years older, but a better display. Rediculous. Thankfully my s23 ultra is fantastic outside. Tab S9, unusable
@@teohontech7141 thanks for your reply but if you suggest one of them which one you prefer I want a one which has good performance in writing for example for 4hours because I teach too
@@amirbjk5542 You can get either. Since both are good at writing, you can choose based on other features. Samsung probably provide more value because pen is included, there's microSD card slot. Tab S9 FE vs iPad Air. Tab S9 vs M4 iPad Pro.
That continues to be my issue with Samsung 😒 Their aspect ratio is clearly geared for consumption, not creation. While I'll never go Apple, it has caused me to look at the XP Pen Magic Drawing Pad because it is in the 4:3 aspect ratio. I don't understand why Samsung won't make one of their Spen enabled tablet in the 4:3 aspect ratio. They have to know creatives are using and want to use Samsung products, it's not all about consumption.
I've been on a S8+ for two years and am now on a S9 ultra and its been great. Btw, don't get tablets with mandatory cords and the need to connect to a PC if you want to go around town doing art... it's far too cumbersome.
@@ajwalker4416 Look up Brad Colbow's review on it. It's an average tablet, but you'd probably be better off saving up for something better like a FE edition of a samsung tab. imho
@@ajwalker4416 I actually prefer the XP pen magic drawing pad, better aspect ratio, better matte type of screen without having to apply a screen protector, replaceable pen nibs officially from their store and no bloat ware, mostly just essential apps on it
@@ajwalker4416 I actually prefer the XP pen magic drawing pad, better aspect ratio, better matte type of screen without having a screen protector, replaceable pen nibs from the official store and no bloat ware apps on it, mostly just essential apps
For sure, it all depends on your own workflow. I will use my tab s6 lite mostly for simpler drawings or sketches (I haven't tried pushing the processing power yet) and I've noticed that I am able to do almost everything with just the pop-palette and favorite brushes. People always mention the UI but I guess they don't know that you can 4-finger tap the screen to hide/unhide it.
No.. sounds like a lot of that is unnecessary garbage, and more than half of that is on Samsung. Also, 13" inch is almost twice as much $$. You lose. Apple's been bad since first gen IMac.
@@runeass the only reason to make a screen widescreen format is if you are watching movies. Nobody should be watching movies on a tablet. Pretty much nothing else is formatted like that. TikTok videos are formatted for framing people and people are vertical. Vertical format is far more practical than some antiquated movie screen format from over 100 years ago. I got a Wacom MOVINK and it is widescreen and almost unusable though they claim it’s 13 inches. The problem is the usable space is determined by the shortest width.
@@ldfjlas yet, there are tons of ultra wide monitors out there. Ultra wide give you the benefit of multiple windows to multitask, for work I have 2 monitors and at home I have ultra wide monitors. I have both the 12.9 2018 iPad and tab s9 ultra. The s9, I can split the window by half and both is usable while the iPad I have to split 2/3 and 1/3, never half half was the right portion. I prefer grabbing the s9 more because it’s more versatile. it can multitask as a laptop in a pinch while the iPad try to reinvent what is already established and make you jump through hoop to do the same thing but I digress. I have a 70 in tv at home but since I’m alway mobile, so yes I watch movies RUclips and social media on the s9, I vastly enjoy the experience more than the iPad because of the 16 by 9. comparing to the 2 huge black bars on the iPad, yea talk about wasted space. Tho I have to agree, different ppl have different use case, I’m replying on a artist channel while I’m not one
As an artist, coming from an iPad Pro user to a Tab S9 Ultra, the drawing experience is amazing. The screen is gorgeous and you have so much space to fit all of the tool palettes and still have a big space for your canvas. Also have so many pen options! Im glad i made the switch.
Rip downgrade. No more procreate. Not as high resolutions
@@michealadebz you just don't know any apps? What do you think people use that has smaller resolutions?
@@Jj82op tab s9 ultra isn’t as powerful so your digital pieces won’t have as many layers or as high resolutions
@@michealadebz It has the most powerful chip for mobile devices from Snapdragon, plenty of performance. Regardless, painting doesn't need much raw power. Layers and resolutions are most dependant on RAM, 12GB is plenty.
@@michealadebziSheep spotted in 4K.
tbf southeast asians dont have to worry about the reflectiveness because aint nobody gonna work outside their house under the asean weather
At least the Samsung Galaxy (9 FE, 9 FE+, 9, 9+ and 9 Ultra) have water resistance IP68 integrated so they'd be fine… probably
what matters are the apps.
@@Joridiy The problem is not water/humidity, it's because it's hot AF.
@@Joridiy that water resistance deff will come in handy here
Fr bro omg
The 11" iPad is in fact NOT 4:3 in aspect ratio. Only the 12.9 or 13 inch version is. The 11" is 10:7 which started in 2018. The current iPad mini (2021) is 3:2. All iPads used to have 4:3 back in the days, but atm there are at least 3 different aspect ratios in the lineup.
Yep. 4:3 is like 1.333, but The very M4 11 inch shown here is actually like 1.452. So it's thinner than the 4:3 of the original iPad.
For reference, the S9, S9+ and Ultra all have 16:10, so 1.6.
Watching from my Tab S9 Ultra ☺️
Such a gentle review ❤ loved it i never saw a complete video but your art and information engaged me though❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for addressing PWM!! I can barely use my phone because of it, and no one ever talks about it sadly lol.
Agree, new OLED ipad is killing me with instant nausea, headache and vertigo :(
As a professional artist and book illustrator for 37 years, I still highly highly think, without a doubt, M4 Tab S9 Pro is better!
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M4 Tab s9??????????? So what do you mean??? Haha
Ipad Pro or Samsung ??????
@@playbunny99 Yesn’t
It's iPad for me because of the aspect ratio. It mimics an A4 size sheet of paper which is the most readable format to human central vision. Anything wider than 4:3 for a handheld tablet spills over into our peripheral vision... yes there is biological science and math behind Apple's design decisions.
Also Apple has better apps
@@nanadrawslotand apps in android is better in iPad. Aside from exclusive apps in iPad that are global standard
Ooo I like this comment. No one really put it out like that. You think it’s for mostly for drawing or can we use the spill over for graphic designing like photo editing
@@PSy84lmao are you stupid?
@@PSy84just a trade in and procreate apps can put iPad at advantage by miles. Samsung has no value to cash out after a few years.
Samsung is amazing actually. I remember when Dex was first announced, I immediately said I'm never going to use that. Now, I use it everyday. When I was overseas for 8 months and working from a hotel with terrible internet service, I used my phone data and the apps on my phone to work through my PC. It was a lifesaver. At home now, I'm still using Dex every single day. Samsung has some features that make it so that I can't even use a different Android device. It has to be Samsung at this point.
Yeah, Dex is so good that it makes Stage Manager look bad, pretty looking but not as useful.
@@teohontech7141 The beauty of Dex to me is when using it with a separate monitor. I actually ran my business with Dex for about a month when I went overseas. The internet at the hotel was terrible so I was using my unlimited phone data. I had Dex running through my laptop. I did the work on my laptop, then sent the files using my the email client on my phone, and using my phone's data. Before that happened, I thought I would never use Dex. Even now, I still use it sometimes when my home internet is not working. On a separate monitor, it's not super smooth but it is really powerful anyway.
I tried out both the iPad and the Tab S9 series in person. Previously, I used a drawing tablet. Unfortunately, the Tab S9 series doesn’t detect very subtle brush strokes; you have to press the pen tip firmly on the screen to draw.
You can change the pen tip and that may make a difference. Different third party pens have varied performance
I replaced the spen with a Wacom one pen and it's pretty good and pressure sensitive
In the end, I bought the fe+ and the Wacom One Pen. Besides the inconvenience of placing reference images, everything else works well.
there are many options for pens… wacom one is best value and much better than spen.
great video, and I really respect how much time you spent helping people out in the comments :)
Excellent non-biased review.
I guess my next one will be a Samsung. I've used iPads for a while but the Apple Pencil is pretty fragile (I'm on my third), the file system and sharing on iOS is super annoying & restricting and I don't like it that I can't backup the iPad to a different cloud storage provider / NAS. I also prefer the aspect ratio of the iPad, but that's probably the only thing at the moment.
The big problem with Android backup is not everything is backed up UNLESS you check. iPad can backup to computer, just not to NAS.
@@teohontech7141 last time I had to restore an iPad backup my pro create files were missing. Backing up to a computer can be very annoying on iPad because can't do it wireless and automated. I wish we could have apps like on Android where selected folders get automatically backed up to a network share , but I think iOS doesn't allow such apps because of it's very restricted file system. At least I couldn't find any that would do it.
An annoying part of automated iOS iCloud backups is also that we can't access them through a browser or so. We can restore it in to amother device, but not access the backup to restore a file from it.
You also can't do a partial restore. Like if you delete / reinstall an app the iCloud backup won't give you the data for just that app back in many cases. Then you can only do a full restore which you might not want.
It's sadly super limited what iCloud backup offers in functionality / accessibility compared to some other solutions.
My guess as to why your file is missing is because that file wasn't backed up in the first place.
Wireless backup to a computer will be painfully slow. And Apple devices don't have the best wireless connection so there is high chance of wireless backup having problems. I mean I already have frequent problems sending video files wirelessly to my Mac.
iCloud backup is a system backup and not a files+folder backup. That's why there is no access to individual files and folders online.
I use iCloud together with Microsoft OneDrive for access to files+folders.
I’m the same. Been drawing on iPad for 5-6yrs, next upgrade for me I wanna try a Samsung tablet, even if the aspect ratio is also iffy for me. I think the adjustment will be doable
I'm happy to see pwm being recognized but do want to add that temporal dithering/FRC seems to be another huge eye discomfort trigger. It's pixel level flickering, can only check with a microscope and fast camera in slomo
Also pwm can be acceptable if the frequency is high enough. Sadly new displays using "DC dimming" are using a software DC like dimming which causes strain too btw.
Agree with much of your comparison, but I find Samsung Dex way better than Stage Manager.
He said stage manager by mistake. If you see, he mentions later that he doesn't use stage manager all that much
I am not a graphic artist. However, it is amazing that the artist community is giving the best reviews for the 2024 iPad M4!
Can you make review for ipad air 11inch vs samsung tabs 9. The title is a bit confusing because Tab S9 has 3 different variants. S9, S9+ and S9ultra. I dont think you are holding S9.
Good review and thanks for calling out PWM! On a side note you may want to look into your mic setup as there is a lot of background noise.
Hii, I'm still confused as I'm new to using tablets, i need to use illustrator, coral draw, clo 3d and procreate ....which would be better choice?
iPad will run Adobe Illustrator (but it's tablet version not desktop version).
Great review! Thanks for telling about PWM its very important for sensitive people.
7:45: woah, my eyes started watering immediately. I knew I'm affected, but this is horrible. Thank you for talking about this.
I just hope so that Samsung make 3:2 screen ratio tablet variation.
It will be a great improvement if they actually do so
I agree.
The current aspect ratio is the best for viewing content though, so they probably wont
Really good video!
Which is stronger? Which should i buy if i am clumsy?
Don't drop them. If you're clumsy just get a case that protects all four sides.
I got Tab S9 Ultra. The only thing that is missing is a simple drawing app that can mimic a real pencil drawing experience with tilt support. I tried 'Concepts' only to realise it is different for iPad and Android. The core functionality of editing brush settings is not present in android app.
Android version of Concepts is missing many features. It will take some time before the developer can match all features on the iPad.
@@teohontech7141 Totally agree! Sometimes, I regret not going for an iPad solely for the great drawing experience and functionality. While Samsung has a good enough processor, it doesn't have the best apps like Procreate.
most apps in android are better in iPad version aside from exclusive apps in ipads
@@PSy84 Unfortunately probably the only thing keeping me from switching to Android for the proper files system :c
Hi have to tried clip studio or Sketchbook pro ?
22:45 you meant you prefer Samung Dex, Uncle! 😂 love you #nogay
Oh yeah. You are right
At the ending you said you prefer stage manager, I think you meant samsung dex 😊
Oops. Yeah. Definitely prefer SamsungDex, easily way better.
Hi Teoh, if I may, could I ask for your opinion on if someone who has not used tablets for art before but wants to start, between the ipad pro or even the air I guess and the Samsung s9. Which of those would be easier to use for art. They both seem to have pros and cons to me. thank you.
iPad Air is more worth the money than Pro because of the lower price point. But do compare prices with M2 iPad Air and refurbished M2 iPad Pro (if available).
Between iPad and Samsung, drawing performance to me is on par. iPad advantage is there are more graphic design apps that handle vector, layout and typography.
Otherwise between iPad and Samsung, you can choose based on features you like and pricing.
@@teohontech7141 thank you for getting back Teoh, I do appreciate your thoughts, I've followed you on youtube for years. Most youtube videos seem to only focus on the tech side, while you use them for art in real world settings. thanks again.
May I know which drawing app that you use in this video? like the ipad and samsung side by side same app
Concepts
Sir, this means that once you purchase Concept app on Android, it can be used on any Android device, every time you have to purchase separate Concept app for that Android device. Like buying it on Android mobile, it can also be used on Android tablet or it will have to be purchased separately.
If you purchase on Android, you can use on all Android devices
Your purchases are in your google play account, so you can use them on all android devices
Really hope they put that Snapdragon X Plus/Elite in the next Samsung tablet.
for which apps?
Sir, my question was if I buy it once on Android can I play it on any Android platform or do I have to buy it every time? Just like it was purchased on Android mobile, it will be purchased again on Android tablet.
If you purchase on Android, you can use on all Android devices
What about if I buy the full version for the Procreate for example on current iPad if I want to upgrade to another iPad in future will it again requre purchase or just by login I can access?
hello, thank you for the video! but i'm sorry i'm still cannot decide which ipad do you think i ishould buy. i never buy apple's product before so it will be new for me. i'm an artist, mostly draw anime/manga style and probably will learn animation too. i want to buy ipad because i'm interested using procreate. i mostly draw/work at home, even if i buy an ipad i will only use it at home. i just like its mobility to allow me drawing anywhere instead of sitting for hours in front of my laptop and wacom. i dont have any budget for now, but i want to buy an ipad that will be able to use for a very very long time. do you have any recommendation? thank you! >
I don't think you'll go wrong with either. If you want to use Procreate, then it's gonna be iPad. Decide based on the software you want to use. Both tablets can last for years until they physically break down.
Most tablets have too much power for the average user now... Pro/ultra is really down to a few apps at best.
Having had an iPad for 10 years, I went with the Ultra, and I have to say it's great!
It's all come to what's your priorities and use.For example getting ipad for specific apps to work with and Note taking intensively or just for media consumption and and some other normal uses. May I know what did you used your iPad for ? And what's your prefer on the Samsung tab.
The Galaxy S9 Ultra screen's brightness is not limited to 400 nits. In fact, this screen can reach a peak brightness of up to 930 nits!
930 nits is only limited to watching HDR content
@@teohontech7141 Thank you for pointing this!
I don't like the boxy look of the ipad. The Ultra has much more space to work with being 16:9.
I draw in landscape, so the Ultra is so much better than the boxy ipad. The bezels on the Ultra are much smaller than the thick ipad bezels.
I don't like anti reflective coating on electronics, it down grades color quality.
Apple needs to redesign the ice pick pencil, S Pen is a pleasure to draw with.
Both tablets are nice but I would buy the Ultra over the ipad.
Ultra is physically bigger which is why 16:9 is still usable. S9+ is not as usable even though it is 16:9 especially in vertical orientation. Because some apps have fixed size UI that will take up more space on a smaller display
Agreed in the context of using it as a dedicated landscape mode device. That said, 4:3 plays better if you want a device that's more orientation agnostic. (iPad lineup, Surface Pro, etc) It's a "pick your poison" sort of thing for sure.
(For example I'm happy with my 12.9" iPad as it is in ProCreate, but not in CSP. I'd definitely prefer the additional 2ish inches of horizontal screen real estate with the Ultras just to accommodate CSP's infamous UI clutter if I was using it purely as a desktop CSP drawing tablet.)
What app do you use to draw?
Concepts
I love my tab s9 ultra. I download torrents i playing old games with emulators and i love app STREMIO.. where are you apple?
My s8 ultra battery is bad when i use it with drawing apps. It doesnt last like my ipad pro 2021
which one has better speakers?
Tab s9 sounds more natural and ipad pro m4 sounds more fun. Also since tab s9 is longer in landscape so the speakers are more far apart to give a better sense of direction.
Should I buy the Tablet S9 or wait for the S10? Please help
I don’t think S10 is gonna be fundamentally different than S9. So it’s okay to get S9. Price should be good now after so many months since release
wait for s10, then buy the s9 because the price would drop
Do Samsung Supports the Adobe Illustrator too ? (its important for me ) thanks :) !
No
@@teohontech7141 oh well , iPad it is then . thanks friend :)
As a professional amateur I prefer the samsung iphone
Next time can you put these time stamps 00:01 into the description?
Thanks for reminder. I forgot to add the clickable timestamps earlier
@@teohontech7141 Thanks.
I want to purchase tablet for making drawing and taking notes i am full samsung user but when it comes to tablet i am very much confused my point are (confused between tab s9 and air m2) -
1) i like aspect ratio of ipad air m2
2) air m2 display is lcd panel with 60hz only samsung provides oled 120hz
3) apple pencil feels good in hand to me
4) ipad air m2 feels nice tab s9 feels small in my hand
5) samsung has expandable storage
6) i can have samsung ecosystem if i buy tab s9
7) ipad can be used to showoff beautiful colours lol
8) also which is better for making animated videos I DONT wanna PAY for apps
So please please help me by considering my points 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Also i do not own any apple products
What you decided 😅
@@raftaarr.r3498 got s9 plus 🙌
Is it your liking? I also need for note taking and some digital art.@@jaygour
@@raftaarr.r3498 i ordered it yesterday after long research for art we have clipstudio ✌️
@@raftaarr.r3498 for note taking i went to store my experience is far better then ipad
Hey there! I have a question, for uni. and watching movie-shows yt etc. Which one should i buy; ipad air m2 11" or ipad pro m2 11" (all of them with pencil tho) ? In my country the ipad pro m2 11" is 5k more than new ipad air so which one is better for long term? New ipad is 2 years younger and it will be get more updated that's the two reason im stuck with it: m2 pro price and update stuff... 🤷🏻♀️ and also is it big enough 11"? I want to buy the 13" but the price diff is literally 10k its so much tho. I would like to state that the iPad I bought can be updated for at least 6-7 years and that I want to use it for a very long time without lag or other problems.
If price difference is not big, M2 iPad Pro is good. It will still last for very long time. i still use my 2018 iPad Pro too, just sent it to change battery yesterday.
the pencil pro support in m2 air is great. not available in m2 ipad pro
and landscape camera in m2 air
@PSy84 is ipad air m2 11"s bazels too big? Did you have it, how much size is for comparison?
@@iremaracbezels are not issue. Focus on functionality. Pencil pro will be very helpful to students with update in Goodnotes
The only reason i am still using ipad pro despite having s23 u phone is becoz of procreate …. If in future procreate is available for samsungs tabs … thats when i might shift
They have really good procreate alternatives now
Correct 😢😢😢 we need procreate
And Apple knows that, 😅
@@Dr.Akakia but apple doesnt own procreate😮💨
Do you notice any of the "grain" when dimm on dark areas that some people are noticing?
Now I have both 11 & 13 to test. No on both.
thats with the nano texture
Came straight here!
Is Affinity Photo working on Samsung Tab S9+.Because I want to Buy one
No unfortunately
my first tablet is samsung tab s8 plus and i love it and i can draw everything what i want and also watch porn in good quality
It's an excellent tab for drawing and the pr0nz.
😂😂
Way to go brother 😂
I highly recommend to upgrade your tablet into tab s 10 series, so you can watch this outdoor too 😂🤦🏻
TBH Wacom and Apple are getting too expensive while a more affortable competition is catching up in features for a noticably lower price. I got a M1 iPad Pro and I think my next tablet for art will be an Android.
Buying the iPad Pro feels more like buying a computer nowadays with that sort of pricing.
Exactly, sure the M4 is powerful, but at twice the cost for the 13", its not worth it.
@@rinyyp7742 It depends. If you are a pro digital artist, musician or creator making your living from your devices then buying the best is a no-brainer. I think there is no doubt the iPad is far superior to the Tab S9 Ultra in nearly every metric.
@@teohontech7141people always talking about out pricing. Sure you can get deals on the Samsung. But I’m going to be fair, if you are comparing at launch the price for the tabs9ultra and the 13inch m4 iPad Pro both at 256 storage were the same price at 1200 dollars. Yes the Samsung comes with an spen though. But support and longevity is another question. I feel that for art and multitasking, media consumption the aspect ratio is better on all three sizes of the tab s9 series.
I hate when people compare the size of the tab s9 ultra to the 11inch iPad. Like what sense does that make. Compare the closer size to each other possible.
Great in depth video. I just sold my tab s9 ultra and picked up the 13inch m4 iPad. There’s just a few apps that I’ll be using that only Apple has and it will be for my art, music and video.
Which at the very least, is indicated by most of the Applications on the Galaxy Tablet were on the iPad Pro at launch or arrived quickly after launch
On Android, there are more options for backup because you can just get a back up software from the google store and use it to back up precisely the things you want to back up rather than backing up the entire tablet. I use DriveSync which can back up to my cloud storage of choice. I back up to Google Drive specific folders on my tablet, not the whole tablet which is pointless. It backs up my phone and tablet to Google Drive, which is also synced to my PC. It's like a perfect solution. When I had an iPad Pro, it was terrible. Either you back up the entire tablet to iCloud, which I don't even have an account, or you buy a 3rd party back which has almost no access to the iOS system. This is still the worst thing about the iPad. iOS itself. File management is awful.
The thing about selective backup is you must know in advance where your files are saved. Some apps let you save to the cloud (great so no backup required), some save to the file folders, some save into the Android data folder (Infinite Painter).
@@teohontech7141 Yes, you have to know where the files are, and that brings up another point about mobile OS. You don't get to choose where you save your files, generally, although it's better on Android OS.
will you try the new wacom movink 13? i want to know what you think about it
Maybe in June or July. Nothing much to say now as I have not been able to test it yet
@@teohontech7141 wahh can’t wait for your review 😆 thank youu
IpadはOSがクソなのでartに集中できます。m4デバイスでも斜めに線を引くとガタガタになりますか？
Line will be straight
iPad is way better for drawing Samsung is and always will be laggy at some point after a year or two. Android products have no value for trade in. Eventually it would cost you more as you upgraded in the future.
Hi, can I know what the drawing app is on iPad?
the one in the beginning is called Concepts
I found he has a videeo about why he prefers Concepts over Procreate ruclips.net/video/5ORoSQ8Q0fM/видео.htmlsi=KmJQO8ux8LDJ5GMF
Yeah, I like Concepts app. I like the style. And the file sizes are so small I never have to upgrade beyond 256GB storage.
Im getting s9 for half the price of ipad pro... Im more attracted towards ipad due to its procreate and more powerful chipset... But can anyone suggest is it really worth to pay double for ipad ???
It comes down to whether you really need Procreate. There are many drawing apps on Android too. As for powerful chipset, that's not a deciding factor at all because just imagine iPad has 1000 times more powerful processor... so what?
@@teohontech7141 thanks for the response... I just dont want to regret buying... I have never used an Apple device so im not sure if it really provides that much of an upgrade to double my budget..
im deciding between the M2 ipad pro and ipad air M2 … just cant decide but im a moderate-light adobe fresco user but I have 2 android phones lol - s24+ and pixel 7 lmaoo im stuckkk
@@anmac6910 M2 iPad Air provides more value for money simply because price is lower. If you can find a refurbished M2 iPad Pro from Apple, that will be even better.
@@teohontech7141 whats the difference between refurbished and open box ? currently in canada there are none 6th gen ipad pro 11 or 12.9in a vailable so i have to check everyday but … is best buy better ? i see one for 1,098 CAD open box but the seller has a bad reputation from best buy
What brush do u use?
For Concepts? Watercolor B4
I’d rather get the bigger screen
I like to draw on Clip studio paint and I still can't find a way to use something like partial touch rejection on Tab s9 ultra so when the pen tip is close to the screen you cannot press anything and have to lift the pen to press anything😂 I get used to it now but it's very annoying at first. It is never a problem with my old ipad pro tho. If anyone know how to fix this please help.😂
settings
In your opinion, is the performance of the wacom one pen comparable to the apple pro pen? Im looking at both tablets and id mostly use them for drawing. I have a cintiq 22 so i want a pen that can get in the same realm of line quality as wacom's pro pen.
Wacom has better sensitivity for pressure across the whole range. Pen point is sharper and easier to see the line. But Apple Pencil Pro is pretty good too, as shown by the many professional who use only iPad to create art
Are your eyes hurt when you draw on ipad m4?
I wanted buy 13 inch but i hear that there pwm and eyes can hurt but because i never have oled before idk 😭
Im using now ipad air 4 so there no pwm
If you don't know whether you are affected by PWM, it's best to see the tablet in real life to test.
@@teohontech7141 Thank you very much! I will ask shop if they have one for test
Sir, I want to buy a tablet, which one would be better according to you, this is my first purchase.
Either of these tabs would be a great purchase.
When using the tablet, will you be holding the tablet often in hand, or set it on the table? Keywords are "when using the tablet".
Both are portable, as in you can bring them around easily, but 13-inch is more of a table-top tablet.
@@teohontech7141 So should I wait for s10?
So should I wait for s10?
You’re using a tablet for what purpose? If you’re using normal content consumption then any tablet can but if you want to use it for a laptop replacement then just get a laptop instead. Don’t be fooled by the size or processors or the internal storage.
If I change devices after purchasing Concept on Android, will I have to purchase it again? For example, if I am using an Android mobile, do I need to buy it again on an Android tablet?
Please help me sir
Concepts Android and Concepts iPad are separate purchases currently
Should have waited a bit for the Tab S10 Ultra to come out in a few months.
s10 series will be using mediatek instead of snapdragon…. hard pass
Thank you for telling people the true sdr brightness of the tab s9 ultra. People see these 1% in the sun 900 nit bull crap and say it's bright. It's not.
Because I bought the 11" tab s9, and the 420nits is just pathetic. My original tab s is 510 nits. 9 years older, but a better display. Rediculous. Thankfully my s23 ultra is fantastic outside. Tab S9, unusable
Could anyone say the name of drawing apps used for s9
Concepts
one question what you suggest for medical student which is better for note taking? thanks
They are both great for taking notes. And there are many good note taking apps from iPadOS and Android
@@teohontech7141 thanks for your reply but if you suggest one of them which one you prefer I want a one which has good performance in writing for example for 4hours because I teach too
@@amirbjk5542 You can get either. Since both are good at writing, you can choose based on other features. Samsung probably provide more value because pen is included, there's microSD card slot. Tab S9 FE vs iPad Air. Tab S9 vs M4 iPad Pro.
Which app he is using in 9:50?
Concepts
That continues to be my issue with Samsung 😒 Their aspect ratio is clearly geared for consumption, not creation. While I'll never go Apple, it has caused me to look at the XP Pen Magic Drawing Pad because it is in the 4:3 aspect ratio. I don't understand why Samsung won't make one of their Spen enabled tablet in the 4:3 aspect ratio. They have to know creatives are using and want to use Samsung products, it's not all about consumption.
I've been on a S8+ for two years and am now on a S9 ultra and its been great. Btw, don't get tablets with mandatory cords and the need to connect to a PC if you want to go around town doing art... it's far too cumbersome.
@@BaronBacon I'm seriously looking into the XP Pen Magic Drawing Pad, are you familiar with it? Teoh did a review of it.
@@ajwalker4416 Look up Brad Colbow's review on it.
It's an average tablet, but you'd probably be better off saving up for something better like a FE edition of a samsung tab. imho
@@ajwalker4416 I actually prefer the XP pen magic drawing pad, better aspect ratio, better matte type of screen without having to apply a screen protector, replaceable pen nibs officially from their store and no bloat ware, mostly just essential apps on it
@@ajwalker4416 I actually prefer the XP pen magic drawing pad, better aspect ratio, better matte type of screen without having a screen protector, replaceable pen nibs from the official store and no bloat ware apps on it, mostly just essential apps
The 11inch is not 4:3
Edge browser? Somebody at Apple is crying.
Safari is a great browser, but I try to use apps that can run on as many platforms as possible.
@@teohontech7141 fair enough. Also thanks for the good review!
How you use whatsapp in ipad
It’s a bookmark to the whatsapp website
@@teohontech7141 thank you for your answer
Really dumb that there is no WhatsApp app.
Portability wise, m4 ipad pro.
Productivity wise, s9u because of wider screen.
Or S9 for both wise
I'll be honest. Android has a better selection of drawing apps I mean, they have Krita, for corn's sake!
Krita is a great app, but it's more of a desktop app that needs a keyboard to be productive.
For sure, it all depends on your own workflow. I will use my tab s6 lite mostly for simpler drawings or sketches (I haven't tried pushing the processing power yet) and I've noticed that I am able to do almost everything with just the pop-palette and favorite brushes. People always mention the UI but I guess they don't know that you can 4-finger tap the screen to hide/unhide it.
No procreate is better
m2 air due to pencil pro
Apple should bring macOs to ipad pros, ipad pros with M chip are like lions in cages,
People who are asking for MacOS on iPad just means the iPad is not for them.
Ipad pro m4 win
-Procreate
-Digital Art/Drawing
-Digital Notes
(GoodNotes, Notability,🍎Notes)
-Graphic Designer
-Logo Design
-Digital Product
-2d/3d Animations
-All Creative Apps
-School, College & Work
But Samsung
-Hack games
-HappyMod
-LokLok & Moviebox
No.. sounds like a lot of that is unnecessary garbage, and more than half of that is on Samsung.
Also, 13" inch is almost twice as much $$.
You lose. Apple's been bad since first gen IMac.
@@BaronBaconCrying kidroid
@@BaronBaconYou are still a Cringe Jealous Cringe of FUTURE APPLE
@@BaronBaconCry you
Fortnite kid cry you @@BaronBacon
Whatsapp …? 🙇🏻♂️on iPad
No. Just the webpage.
Web shortcut
S9 Ultra don’t even have same capabilities for drawing or artist as Ipad Pro , beautiful screen on S9 Ultra though but Ipad Just Superior
you are ebrything but sure not an artist 😂😂😂 kewl
god i love 4 by 3. so much less wasted space. widescreen is so dumb.
I disagree. For pure consumption, 16 by 9 is 10 times better than 4 by 3. For normal work, it's 4 times better.
@@runeass the only reason to make a screen widescreen format is if you are watching movies. Nobody should be watching movies on a tablet. Pretty much nothing else is formatted like that. TikTok videos are formatted for framing people and people are vertical. Vertical format is far more practical than some antiquated movie screen format from over 100 years ago. I got a Wacom MOVINK and it is widescreen and almost unusable though they claim it’s 13 inches. The problem is the usable space is determined by the shortest width.
@@ldfjlas yet, there are tons of ultra wide monitors out there. Ultra wide give you the benefit of multiple windows to multitask, for work I have 2 monitors and at home I have ultra wide monitors. I have both the 12.9 2018 iPad and tab s9 ultra. The s9, I can split the window by half and both is usable while the iPad I have to split 2/3 and 1/3, never half half was the right portion. I prefer grabbing the s9 more because it’s more versatile. it can multitask as a laptop in a pinch while the iPad try to reinvent what is already established and make you jump through hoop to do the same thing but I digress. I have a 70 in tv at home but since I’m alway mobile, so yes I watch movies RUclips and social media on the s9, I vastly enjoy the experience more than the iPad because of the 16 by 9. comparing to the 2 huge black bars on the iPad, yea talk about wasted space.
Tho I have to agree, different ppl have different use case, I’m replying on a artist channel while I’m not one
@@runeass Those x times numbers are strangely precise.
OMG, I just saw the Wacom Movink design and they have a thick black bezel below to make it feel like 16:10 when it is actually 16:9.