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Anyone who really watches or plays football knows that the Messi vs Cristiano debate ended in 2012.
Ronaldo didn't win any youth world cup. Messi won under 20 world cup and under 23 Olympics soccer cup. He only missed under 17 world cup.
Remember when Zidane said to Messi, "I see plays 1 second faster than everyone. But you see it 3 seconds faster."
Best and greatest are 2 different words and 2 different definitions best is the Pinnacle of skill ..greatest is the definition of achievement which Lionel Messi will simply be the greatest of all time Ronaldo is no way near that simple as that all you little cr7 fans go cry about he will never be the greatest of all time like Lionel Messi use are delusional to think he is 😂
To win Balon D'or while Messi is at his peak is a great achievement. Means he beats Messi and others 5 times for the coveted trophy. He was cheated for one of it, to be fair. Not anybodies fan, by the way.
Creepy Ai "narrator" 🤮
talent is not natural you have to work hard to maintain that skill
Ronaldo and Messi are two of the greatest❤
What ronaldo do things messi cannot. What messi do things ronaldo cannot these is a truth
maradona very good
pele trash
messi legend
What did ronaldo win for his country? Euro was won by eder .... and other then that nothing
Ronaldo is the king of EGO, Messi king of humility and the football of course
My personal top 5 of all time: 1-Messi 2-Pelé 3-Ronaldo The Phenomenon 4-Ronaldinho 5-Maradona
Messi.. should win the ballon doer
I understand some of the hatred...and it irritates me. Though many of the haters would never admit it (even the fanatic Maradona fans) part of it stems from the fact that the man is relatively small (5'7") and NOT built like a stud (even a "shrimp" like Maradona was a stud compared to Messi, those tree trunks for legs etc.)...not a stereotypical footballer. And this "little man" has done things on the pitch that a person that small should never be able to do, consistently embarrassing defenders much larger, stronger and, in some cases, just as fast as him. He has even taken a relatively new category of goal (I call it the nutmeg goal, going between the legs of a last defender before beating the goalie) to a level of apotheosis as to essentially make it his own. He is the most atypical of GOATS, and not a horse's a**, prima dona, "difficult" team mate etc. and brings no shame or scandal to the game (which has had enough of it's own)
How do you pick a goat based on Team statistics and individual accomplishments doesn't make sense
Hypothetically Rolando and Messi and their career with the exact same statistics, how do you pick a goat it's so simple. Character
Exact same statistics?? You are deluded Messi has More team trophies Has more individual awards Has better stats Even in goalscoring, Messi is better. More free kicks. Way better free kick conversion rate. Better Goal Ratio. More outside the box goals. More shots on target. Better accuracy. More non penalty goals. And all these after playing less that 150 matches than Ronaldo. Only thing Ronaldo is clear is Penalties. Only player to win ballandor 8 times. Only player to win 4 ballandors consecutively. Won 3 playmaker awards consecutively. Messi won 395(highest ever) man of the matches awards. And Ronaldo has won just 176. Ronaldo has 38 matches with perfect 10 rating. Meanwhile Messi again has the highest ever here with 118 perfect 10 rating matches. More passes More Assists Highest goals in a season. Highest goals in a calendar year Most non penalty goals ever scored in a season ever list: 1. 11/12 season Lionel Messi with 59 non penalty goals 2. 12/13 season with 55 non penalty goals again Lionel Messi 3. This must be Cristiano right?? Hehe Cheeky boy. It's Messi again with 52 non penalty goals in 14/15 season 4. And then 55 non penalty goals again in 15/16 season. Its Messi. Only thing Ronaldo is clear is in Penalties. A sextuple. And 2 trebles. And an International treble. Lionel Messi has 41 Guinness world records and Cristiano Ronaldo has 40. Cristiano Ronaldo has 40. Enjoy bro, I know you guys will still live in denial and give excuses. Messi the Greatest of All Time🐐👽🥶✨❤️
Pele GOAT Messi pk only pessi
🤡 The Brazilian labourer whose stats changed regularly Whenever any other footballer surpassed his stats, the clown changed his stats to maintain his G.O.A.T status. And Brazil has a history of overhyped talents. I remember those days when you actually called Neymar as the next pele. Some said that he was better than Pele. And now you guys will change the narrative. Or may be you weren't even alive then👶🏻
Lex Fridman, a legend of the game xD
Lets combarison to Maradona and Messi. Both were about 17 years enetring argentina team. Maradona hd only argentina club succes before he won world cup. He moved to Napoli and did 1 good year winning Napolis only league victrory. In other hand Messi came at 16 into Barcelona team, He won With Barcelona champ leagues several years he dominated in 3 world cups in the end winning it. Maradona was good only 86 world cup, 90's he was fat, could not do a shit in a field anymore. Leo has been fit for 15 years of adulthood dominating in every team he played. Hands down, Leo "the Goat" the God of Football.
As a Messi fan it's easy to say is that all you got 😂😂
What gets me is that the so-called experts, the retired Football Players turned pundits, when comparing maradona with Messi, never mention maradona's drugs cheating and corresponding bans for taking performance enhancing drugs. That's the problem when taking this stuff, you seem to lose your memory!
Messi's not competing with Maradona - he's competing with Mozart
This debate should be about messi and maradonna not Ronaldo as he's not in the top 5
MESSI IS THE GOAT, THE EVER BEST FOOTBALLER TILL DATE
CR7 would have to win a World Cup to be on the debate table with Messi. I actually don't have CR7 in my top 5 best players of all time list.
There was never a debate Messi is incomparable
One club wonder kid 😂😂😂😂😂 this is rubbish
One club wonder kid?? When someone is loyal, you call him one club wonder kid 🤡 For you even Maldini is a one club wonder kid right?? Dumbo
I don't think Ronaldo was ever a strong contender for the goat in the first place, it was mainly Maradona Pele maybe the Brazilian Ronaldo and Messi, CR7 might be the Best Striker and he holds many records, but the others were just Phenomenons
it is not that he does not do it He simply cant do it
Why people dont accept magic they see it right there infront of them dont tell me about any fuckin penaldo messi is the real blue print, penaldo wasted his career the only trophy to seal his name he cried of the field
he definitely didn’t have the influence on a big game like maradona or zz
Influence on big game?? You are a clown kid Who has more world cup goals Who has more world cup assists Who has more champions league goals Who has more champions league assists Be deluded kid
Messi can only be compared to Pele and Maradona now. Respectfully. And i’ve seen minimum film of those 2
Christiano isn't even the best Ronaldo that's played the game
❤ y'all can say what so ever bt cr7 has the streets, favourite of many future gr8 players & we are still convinced cr7 is the most complete & greatest player of all time ❣️
Streets>>Football Greats😂😂
Ferdinand is spineless, Changing his opinion.
Ferdinand has always said Messi is the best. He has appreciated Ronaldo many times. But always from the first day has said that Messi is the best ever. Before Messi he used to say that about Maradona. Continue to be deluded
It definitely seems right to call both of these two players GOATs as no player in the past "CONSISTENTLY" performed for 10+ Years. But, Messi is miles above everyone else in understanding of football in general such as understanding of space, flow, positioning (e.g. breaking offside), the timing and the weight of pass and the shot timing and the accuracy and dribbling of course. I am sure some A and S-tier players also possess one or more of these skills but definitely not all. What's even more surprising is that he can execute the actions based on these understandings, making those split-second decisions in the most direct and efficient way possible for nearly 20 years. Also, he hasn't had a major career-threatening injury like the one Neymar has gotten while dribbling more than any footballer in the world every game. Lastly, he must have a perfect understanding of his body, fitness as he has adapted to the adequate play style depending on his diminishing speed and fitness, still able to digest 90 minutes in a fairly intense schedule. In my opinion, I don't think we will see another player like this for a long time or ever... so let's appreciate watching him play on the pitch until he retires.
Messi was alrdy the goat evan before wc.
When i see soccer in title i usualy skip , because its football the real football not like americans call it , but messi is messi so i clicked😅
The greatest achievent Cristiano has is to be mentioned in the same paragraph as Lionel Messi. Besides the "he works really hard" and all that what does he do for the team? What CR has ever done is score goals, that's it. Analyzing his inflated numbers would be debunking the myth but anyways this is about Messi. What Messi does is not just scoring but he also create the play, assists scorers and scores himself, it's like having 3 players in one and not just any players, 3 top tier players, amazing vision for passing, drags his marks so when he passes the ball to his teammates their chances to score are greater and his scoring... well, he's the 🐐 for a reason 😏
I will tell you what is the difference right now. Messi is small and ugly and his character is not of a leader, very likeable because most people are arrogant in a way. And Cristiano is good looking, tall, fit, handsome...and his character is to speak directly what is on his mind and sometimes speaks thruths that hurt the weak-minded. In the pitch Cristiano has done and proved more than Messi playing in worse teams both clubs and internationally, because Argentina is toooo much better than Portugal in every single way. If Messi had won 3 Champions League in a row scoring +15 goals each season everyone would be going crazy. Messi got the advantage of playing for Guardiola for 4 years, and he won his first 4 Ballon dOrs, after that Cristiano made a comeback because he was just that much better he went to 5-5 and everyone knows it should've been 6-5 after 2018. And then Messi gets the 6th on 2019. Perfect ending. BUT the media and marketing-fueled world decided to give Messi 2 more out of nowhere when we all know he didn't deserve it...EVERYONE said "It's never bad to give it to Messi" of course is not, and It's never bad to give it to Cristiano, but you can't deny that in 2021 and 2023 there were much better perfomances and those players also deserve recognition. We can all agree Messi wasn't even in top3 in 2021 and 2023, but they gave him because he is Messi, to honour his past...it was pathetic.
I always remember what Joseph Blatter said about CR7 and Messi, because it shows FIFA's mentality.
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soccer legends but why u have the thumbnail w joe rogan
They calling him a one club wonder tho
😂😂😂😂😂 fake goat
Maradona then Messi cuz Messi arguably had the best players around him his whole career. Maradona went to a second division team brought them up to First and won two scudettos during a time Serie A was arguably the best league in the world, with players that would take your legs off for embarrassing them. Not like today u get touched they blow the whistle.. Look up one game Napoli vs Juventus freekick over the wall in the penalty area. He literally defied the laws of physics 🙏🏼 N what he said before the shot was even greater. They were arguing with the ref cause the wall was only 5 ft away eventually he just said in Napoletano "whateverdoesnt matter im still going to score anyway" n walked away the way he shot that ball was like a friggen angel left his foot flying through the sky..lol He made that ball do what HE wanted n thats why hes the GOAT. 🩵🙏🏼🌋 E forza Napoli a vita 💀🌋 heres a link but should really watch a few videos of his teammates breaking it down n one where hes the narrator. after.ruclips.net/video/YCesZaXk2nA/видео.htmlsi=sWo3taitryMG7ef6
What a joke. On every criteria, Messi wins. No contest whatever.
yes....yes...yes....!!!